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Should Revan / The Exile be given faces or names in the KOTOR comic book series?
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DarthRevan211
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7/13 1:00pm
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Should Revan / The Exile be given faces or names in the KOTOR comic book series?
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Sorry, messed up there.
Anyways, this question was posted over at DarkHorse and was wondering about your thoughts on this matter.
Personally, I hope that Revan's name and face are both kept secret and that he just wears his signature mask. The Exile, on the other hand, I feel should be at least given a name. This would allow future stories involving her a possibility. Imagine a novel saying "The Jedi Exile did this...", "the Jedi Exile said to him..." You know? While, with Revan, you can just say Revan. Also, since Revan DOES have a canon look, I see no reason to show his face, his mask keeps his face up to the reader. The Exile, however, does not and I don't see them pulling the "Unknown Hooded Jedi" trick again.
So, what do you think?
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RevantheJediMaster
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DarthRevan211 posted:
Sorry, messed up there.
Anyways, this question was posted over at DarkHorse and was wondering about your thoughts on this matter.
Personally, I hope that Revan's name and face are both kept secret and that he just wears his signature mask. The Exile, on the other hand, I feel should be at least given a name. This would allow future stories involving her a possibility. Imagine a novel saying "The Jedi Exile did this...", "the Jedi Exile said to him..." You know? While, with Revan, you can just say Revan. Also, since Revan DOES have a canon look, I see no reason to show his face, his mask keeps his face up to the reader. The Exile, however, does not and I don't see them pulling the "Unknown Hooded Jedi" trick again.
So, what do you think?
I also think they should keep Revan cloaked (he shouldn't start wearing his signature mask and robe until he has visited Malachor though). I just want to see Revan interact with Zayne a little. If they plan on using the Exile then I think they will give her both a name and a face. Who knows Revan may have multiple female Jedi generals, so we may have to wait until the end of the series to find out which one is the Exile. If Revan has only one female general then it becomes obvious.
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Zorrixor
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RE: Should Revan / The Exile be given faces or names in the KOTOR comic book series?
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I don't see why the Exile can't just be called "General" to get around the name issue. Enough of the characters in the game itself just called her that and it was what she was known for during the Mandalorian Wars.
The face is harder to get around though I'm not all that fussed if she gets a face. I doubt she will though else they wouldn't be obscuring Revan either. I figure either they'll do the same big hooded cloak deal or just design a cool outfit for her to wear that covers her face. Nobody ever said Revan was the only dude known for covering his face. Besides, there are other getups they could design for "the General" beyond a face plate. I'd be happy with a sort of full head and face covering Lumiya type of veil.
I do want to see the General though. I'll be greatly disappointed if she isn't featured as a prominent military leader from the Revanchists once they go to war.
Similarly, I want to see Revan don his trademark getup once the Revanchists make their move, which should be soon judging by the timeline (the comics are in the same year). I'm fine though with the artists designing a different less Sithly look for him to have initially though. Alek got his pre-Sith look, no reason why the Revanchist can't too in my mind. They need not give him a name or a face to be able to have an artist give him a more stylish look.
Personally, I've always liked the idea he stole the face plate from a Mandalorian (they did say that Revan and Malak became more and more like the Mandalorians themselves as the war went on  ). I'd really like to see him donning some half-Jedi/half-Mando looking getup that was halfway between his Jedi-look and eventual Sith-look. I'm essentially thinking Darth Revan but not so much black, more neutral, grays and browns.
Of course, I also always liked the idea his face plate was Mandalore's... but KOTOR2 spoiled that one for me with Canderous. 
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I would like to see faces and names for both - as long as either of them wouldn't be named Skywalker - but at least for Exile if they want to keep Revan as the enigmatic faceless and nameless figure he is now.
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DarthRevan211
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Zorrixor posted:
I don't see why the Exile can't just be called "General" to get around the name issue. Enough of the characters in the game itself just called her that and it was what she was known for during the Mandalorian Wars.
The face is harder to get around though I'm not all that fussed if she gets a face. I doubt she will though else they wouldn't be obscuring Revan either. I figure either they'll do the same big hooded cloak deal or just design a cool outfit for her to wear that covers her face. Nobody ever said Revan was the only dude known for covering his face. Besides, there are other getups they could design for "the General" beyond a face plate. I'd be happy with a sort of full head and face covering Lumiya type of veil.
I do want to see the General though. I'll be greatly disappointed if she isn't featured as a prominent military leader from the Revanchists once they go to war.
Similarly, I want to see Revan don his trademark getup once the Revanchists make their move, which should be soon judging by the timeline (the comics are in the same year). I'm fine though with the artists designing a different less Sithly look for him to have initially though. Alek got his pre-Sith look, no reason why the Revanchist can't too in my mind. They need not give him a name or a face to be able to have an artist give him a more stylish look.
Personally, I've always liked the idea he stole the face plate from a Mandalorian (they did say that Revan and Malak became more and more like the Mandalorians themselves as the war went on ). I'd really like to see him donning some half-Jedi/half-Mando looking getup that was halfway between his Jedi-look and eventual Sith-look. I'm essentially thinking Darth Revan but not so much black, more neutral, grays and browns.
Of course, I also always liked the idea his face plate was Mandalore's... but KOTOR2 spoiled that one for me with Canderous.
You've pretty much embodied my entire thinking with that post. I agree with you on all accounts. 
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7/13 3:07pm
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Yes. Next question.
Seriously, I've never understood the desire to cripple the ability of these characters to be portrayed anywhere outside their respective game and undergo any expansion simply for the sake of preserving the virginally pristine quality of the gameplay experience for fans unable to comprehend the outrage-inspiring idea of not having the canonical character be exactly like their PC. Give Revan a face. So what? It's better than having him be Wilson for the next twenty years.
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I think it would be all right if the Exile was just called "General" during this period of time. It could be one of those strange "Don't call me An'yo Kura. I am the Dark Woman. My name is a possession and I have given up all possession to show humility in front of the force" type things.
I can't really remember if the Exile actually went "Dark" but as time progresses her name could morph into an arrogance thing. "There are a lot of generals out there, but I am THE General."
Following a similar train of thought, once she is no longer the General, she becomes the Exile. Her name is not as important as what she is.
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I still wish the Exile was a dude. The Handmaiden story was much more interesting....
Yes, show their faces.
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Carnage04 posted:
"There are a lot of generals out there, but I am THE General."
That sounds like that locomotive from the Buster Keaton classic...
In the beginning, I think I had selfish thoughts, only wanting my version of the game to exist. But seeing how well the comic is doing, I'd agree that we'd better have canon depictions and get it over with. "The Revanchist" is a genius way of pussyfooting around the issue, but with the Exile, pulling something similar off would be... irritating. And I'm too fond of the whole Alek/Malak story to just have Revan being a non-entity until the Star Forge gives him his Sith outift, they should really include him more.
But it's not an official question over at Dark Horse, is it?
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Grey1 posted:
Carnage04 posted:
"There are a lot of generals out there, but I am THE General."
That sounds like that locomotive from the Buster Keaton classic...
In the beginning, I think I had selfish thoughts, only wanting my version of the game to exist. But seeing how well the comic is doing, I'd agree that we'd better have canon depictions and get it over with. "The Revanchist" is a genius way of pussyfooting around the issue, but with the Exile, pulling something similar off would be... irritating. And I'm too fond of the whole Alek/Malak story to just have Revan being a non-entity until the Star Forge gives him his Sith outift, they should really include him more.
But it's not an official question over at Dark Horse, is it?
Revan had his signature robe and mask before he found the Star Forge. I think it would make sense for him to take up the robe and mask after he goes to Malachor (becomes darker). I do hope Revan gets more involved in future issues as well. I mean he doesn't even need to have his mask or a face because he could stay hidden behind the robe. I like you think it would be easier to give him a canon depiction, but if keeping him robed works then that is fine as well.
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Hmm... A good question.
As much as I think Revan is Revan, the hood and the awesome mask, all that, I would want to see more of his early days. And he wasn't born with that mask on. Revan has a face and it would be interesting to see it.
My Revan was always the Jedi-mullet guy. And the one in the top right corner is not bad either. But yeah, if DH decide to give Revan a face I'll have make peace with that, whatever portrait they chose. We take what is given.
On the other hand, it may be something completely different than those options from the game. In the comics, Revan is still a Knight in the Mandalorian Wars, before he became a Sith. And if his memory was 'erased', maybe his looks have been changed as well (like hair)...
As for the name, it's not really necessary for Revan, but it is for the Exile. Saying The Jedi Exile all the time is not really convenient.
Zorrixor posted:
Personally, I've always liked the idea he stole the face plate from a Mandalorian
Same here. 
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I chose the center face in the top row the first time I played (I thought the Jedi could use a central protagonist who wasn't white).
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Pre-KotOR Revan to me is Top Right dude (with the same style of beard he develops as a dark sider) and long hair. The beard and hair is shaved after his capture, and contributes - in part - to his ability to go around unrecognised.
That bald toy be damned.
Amon_Amarth posted:
Zorrixor posted:
Personally, I've always liked the idea he stole the face plate from a Mandalorian
Same here.
Besides, it's not a T-Visor.
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Most vehemently no. They should never have given them a gender, either, but that ship seems to have sailed. You'd think LFL would've learned from the unadulterated fiasco that was Rebel Assault II, but noooooo...
Really. I'm still upset about that one. There have been few moments in my life more horrifying than the day I learned that MY Rookie One had been replaced by some blonde elbow with a bad haircut. 
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Ulicus posted:
That bald toy be damned.
Oh yeah right, like Revan would ever go against trend-setters like Malak, Bandon, Uthar, and Jorak Uln. Every important male Sith in the Second Sith Empire has to be bald, didn't you know that? 
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I'm still annoyed they made Revan a dude and The Exile a chick - should have been the other way around.
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