Author Topic: Subtle nods in SW lit
TalonCard 
Title: TFN EU Staff
Registered: Jan '01
6036_Pit Droid
Date Posted: 7/16 8:48am Subject: RE: Subtle nods in SW lit
laugh I'd forgotten about that and just assumed you were referring to the train itself. blush

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ILLUMINATUS_JEDI 
Registered: Nov '01
6366_Kit Fisto
Date Posted: 7/18 2:03pm Subject: RE: Subtle nods in SW lit - Date Edited: 7/18 2:04pm (1 edits total) Edited By: ILLUMINATUS_JEDI
For the Brits among us, Karen Traviss throws quite a few infamous Tony Blair quotes in LOTF.

"Tough on Crime, tough on the Cause of crime" becomes "Tough on Terrorism, tough of the causes of Terrorism" in Bloodlines.

Also, "I really do feel the hand of History on my shoulder" Caedus to Shevru in Revelation.

From the same novel, the Mando ballard translated "No one likes us we don't care" a common Football Chant fro certain Football Clubs.
Oh, and the Bolo-Ball Tournament= World Cup/Euro 2008

 

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Jedi_Master_Luc 
Registered: Jul '06
40039_Luke Skywalker
Date Posted: 7/19 6:35am Subject: RE: Subtle nods in SW lit
ILLUMINATUS_JEDI posted:
For the Brits among us, Karen Traviss throws quite a few infamous Tony Blair quotes in LOTF.

"Tough on Crime, tough on the Cause of crime" becomes "Tough on Terrorism, tough of the causes of Terrorism" in Bloodlines.

Also, "I really do feel the hand of History on my shoulder" Caedus to Shevru in Revelation.

From the same novel, the Mando ballard translated "No one likes us we don't care" a common Football Chant fro certain Football Clubs.
Oh, and the Bolo-Ball Tournament= World Cup/Euro 2008


I wish there was more about Bolo-Ball in the novels. I'm a big ManU fan and live in the states. Needless to say there's isn't much footie in popular media so seeing it in SW gives me great joy. ESPN tried REALLY hard to get people interested in MLS in the states when Beckham came over to the Galaxy, but it didn't take. I don't know how they'd expect to get anyone in America interested in the sport by watching Americans play it. By comparison to Barclay's Premiership (BEST football on the planet), MLS is like watching a bunch of monkeys in soccer shorts running around the pitch. Sure they're on the field and kicking the ball, but they're not REALLY playing football.

An "interesting" aside, before Beckham ever stepped foot on the pitch, all the ladies at my mothers office kept asking me all about David. They thought he was SOO hott and wanted to be authorities on the latest british sex-symbol to reach the states. That is, until he opened his mouth. Apparently, it doesn't matter how sexy a man is if he sounds like a girl! I tried to explain to them that many of the British soccer players (and i suppose british men in general), very masculine and well built athletes, have a softer and more feminine voice than most American men would choose to speak with. I showed them an interview with Wayne "The Manchild" Rooney and they couldn't stop laughing. Poor Manchild. But higher pitched voice or not, they're still awesome athletes.


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Manisphere 
Registered: Aug '07
44396_Luke Skywalker
Date Posted: 7/20 9:55pm Subject: RE: Subtle nods in SW lit
Rereading Rite of Passage this evening I remembered, the Niktos and the Klatooinians both are a reference to The Day the Earth Stood still. "Klaatu barada nikto".

 

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darth_Boba 
Registered: Aug '02
17820_Boba Fett<br>and Vader
Date Posted: 7/20 9:58pm Subject: RE: Subtle nods in SW lit
Don't forget Barada, a specific Klatooinian.

 

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greyh 
Registered: Jul '08
40736_Kyle Katarn
Date Posted: 7/20 10:32pm Subject: RE: Subtle nods in SW lit - Date Edited: 7/20 10:32pm (1 edits total) Edited By: greyh
Probably not a very interesting one but in one of the middle LOTF novels there was a reference to a "certain tribe" who trained their students to care for and train a creature (A dog of some sort I believe) of their own, then at the end of their training they were forced to kill the poor thing, which reminded me of the tactics the SS used to make their members ruthless, where they'd have to strangle the puppy they'd been given to raise. Not sure how accurate a reference that is though, I'm not really an expert on Nazi Germany tongue

 

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Fettster 
Registered: May '03
42496_Boba Fett
Date Posted: 7/21 12:29am Subject: RE: Subtle nods in SW lit
greyh posted:
Probably not a very interesting one but in one of the middle LOTF novels there was a reference to a "certain tribe" who trained their students to care for and train a creature (A dog of some sort I believe) of their own, then at the end of their training they were forced to kill the poor thing, which reminded me of the tactics the SS used to make their members ruthless, where they'd have to strangle the puppy they'd been given to raise. Not sure how accurate a reference that is though, I'm not really an expert on Nazi Germany tongue


George Martin used the same reference in his Song of Ice and Fire series; there the fighters also were eunuch slaves, dedicated to battle and knowing no other life.

 

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Arawn_Fenn 
Registered: Jul '04
46079_Darth Plagueis
Date Posted: 7/21 6:58am Subject: RE: Subtle nods in SW lit
greyh posted:
Probably not a very interesting one but in one of the middle LOTF novels there was a reference to a "certain tribe" who trained their students to care for and train a creature (A dog of some sort I believe) of their own, then at the end of their training they were forced to kill the poor thing, which reminded me of the tactics the SS used to make their members ruthless, where they'd have to strangle the puppy they'd been given to raise. Not sure how accurate a reference that is though, I'm not really an expert on Nazi Germany tongue


That was in LOTF? It was in Rule of Two as well! thinking

 

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Jedi_Liz 
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Registered: Apr '00
6172_Padme
Date Posted: 7/21 7:18am Subject: RE: Subtle nods in SW lit
the droid or person who worked for Jor'j Cardas, his name was a tribute to Anthony Daniels, who donned the costume for C-3PO.



 

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Arawn_Fenn 
Registered: Jul '04
46079_Darth Plagueis
Date Posted: 7/21 10:09am Subject: RE: Subtle nods in SW lit
I should have picked up on that one. doh!

 

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Havac 
Title: Lit Mod of War Against the Aztecs
Registered: Sep '05
13743_Han Solo
Date Posted: 7/21 6:44pm Subject: RE: Subtle nods in SW lit
Entoo Needaan E-elz.

 

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ARC-77 
Registered: Mar '06
40696_Jaster Mereel
Date Posted: 7/21 6:58pm Subject: RE: Subtle nods in SW lit
There's Underlord Pehri in Jedi Twilight. Being head of Black Sun's a neat tribute to a friend, if you ask me. tongue

 

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Karohalva 
Registered: May '08
Date Posted: 7/21 7:26pm Subject: RE: Subtle nods in SW lit
*gasp* And the Imperials all dress like Nazis!

 

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LtNOWIS 
Registered: May '05
16494_Clone Assault
Date Posted: 7/21 7:43pm Subject: RE: Subtle nods in SW lit
Arawn_Fenn posted:
greyh posted:
Probably not a very interesting one but in one of the middle LOTF novels there was a reference to a "certain tribe" who trained their students to care for and train a creature (A dog of some sort I believe) of their own, then at the end of their training they were forced to kill the poor thing, which reminded me of the tactics the SS used to make their members ruthless, where they'd have to strangle the puppy they'd been given to raise. Not sure how accurate a reference that is though, I'm not really an expert on Nazi Germany tongue


That was in LOTF? It was in Rule of Two as well! thinking

It's a rather common urban legend. They've said the same thing about Navy SEALs, the Marines, and other groups with tough reputations.

 

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Arawn_Fenn 
Registered: Jul '04
46079_Darth Plagueis
Date Posted: 7/21 9:08pm Subject: RE: Subtle nods in SW lit
ARC-77 posted:
There's Underlord Pehri in Jedi Twilight. Being head of Black Sun's a neat tribute to a friend, if you ask me. tongue


Actually, he was introduced in Shadow Hunter, at which point he was a low-ranking member.
But he is based on the real Dal Perry, so you could say that making him Underlord in Jedi Twilight was a nice gesture.

 

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