TNPredsFan posted:But the Order doesn't DESERVE him. Why should he show any loyalty to an order that failed him?
Charlemagne19 posted:I don't like the idea of the Jedi Order being this hopelessly flawed and need to be destroyed group. They're still heroes at heart. It's Malak whose group are thoroughly evil and will be consumed by their own hatred.
SithStarSlayer posted:
DarthStymi posted:Yeah, I saw Ching would not be around for those issues. If I am remembering correctly, I think my last impression of Bong's work was that is was too cartoon-ish for KoTOR (hope I'm not confusing his work with somebody else's). I will have to check out Dean's website though. Thanks! Anyone have any insider scoop if Ching will return?
Master_Keralys posted:Jeff - those are fairly standard Jedi robes of the day. I can't find a screencap at the moment, but those are pretty standard black robes for Jedi at this point. I never had Jolee Bindo or my character wear anything else unless I had very good reason to, because they just look stinking cool. Especially with Bindo using a purple lightsaber.
JohnJacksonMiller posted:Thanks for the kind words, folks. I'll probably have some thoughts on the ish on my blog tomorrow, but to something Jeff had asked... "How certain was Zayne that the Kressh gauntlet would protect Lucien from the turbolaser blasts?" We left it for readers to interpret, but if you imagine the exchange as simply "You get the Gauntlet from Haazen. I'll get you and Gryph clear -- and I'll deal with him," then Zayne may not know exactly what Lucien has in mind. The control device and Gauntlet are on the same hand -- with the Gauntlet gone, Zayne might have expected Lucien to then engage Haazen in melee until the Jedi arrived. If Zayne had hung onto the control device (which he dropped), the turbolasers wouldn't have entered into it.
Oissan posted:Well, you can't change what the games say about the Jedi Order. The Order was flawed, and it failed because of it. It wouldn't make any sense whatsoever to suddenly change the Order into something it wasn't at that point, nor would it make sense to turn Zayne's character around by choosing an Order which turned against him, above his friends. Apart from that, it would be a waste of character, because the Jedi Order gets decimated rather quickly a short while later. I agree that there should be some Jedi like Zayne in the Order, it doesn't get portrayed right most of the time, but the period around the events of KOTOR is a pretty bad time for that. In the case of Zayne, having him around in the rebuilding Jedi Order after KOTOR II would be a much better fit, than forcing him into the KOTOR-era Jedi Order.
Charlemagne19 posted:I don't believe the Dark Side transforms a person magically.
SithStarSlayer posted:Charlemagne19 posted:I don't believe the Dark Side transforms a person magically.Tell that to the man who scripted Vader to go in and whack younglings a mere two-minutes after joining the dark-side club.
Charlemagne19 posted:[hl=black]the fact is that the last thing we need in the EU is a nother Jolee Bendu.
Oissan posted:Well, you can't change what the games say about the Jedi Order. The Order was flawed, and it failed because of it. It wouldn't make any sense whatsoever to suddenly change the Order into something it wasn't at that point, nor would it make sense to turn Zayne's character around by choosing an Order which turned against him, above his friends.
Charlemagne19 posted:Well, you can't change what the games say about the Jedi Order. The Order was flawed, and it failed because of it. It wouldn't make any sense whatsoever to suddenly change the Order into something it wasn't at that point, nor would it make sense to turn Zayne's character around by choosing an Order which turned against him, above his friends. Pardon? The games are pretty clear it was Revan and the Sith who destroyed the Jedi Order. They're the bad guys, not the Jedi. That's an... interesting take, to say the least. We know that they'll be consumed by dark, but thoroughly evil? I wonder if you think that Kyp Durron's faction in the early NJO was thoroughly evil for wanting to take the fight to the invaders. I don't believe the Dark Side transforms a person magically. Ergo, Revan's faction is filled with a bunch of people who fought for the power and glory rather than justice.
Ackbar_Van_Gungan posted:The planet in question is ambiguous, the only descriptor being "Someplace else" or "Somewhere else" or something similar.