cloneCommando1138 posted:Also, one of the jedi in the end looked a lot like jolee bindo...
MercenaryAce posted:Quiet_Mandalorian posted:Oissan posted:By that logic, the allies should have stopped fighting the Nazis and let them destroy the Soviets, because that outcome would have been better than having the Cold War for 50 years and Stalin killing as many people as Hitler did.Indeed. Sadly, it was not to be. And allow the Germans to link up with their Japanese allies and possibly take India, giving them all the resources and position they need to finish off Britain for good? The war was close enough as is, not helping the SU would have been a disaster.
Quiet_Mandalorian posted:Oissan posted:By that logic, the allies should have stopped fighting the Nazis and let them destroy the Soviets, because that outcome would have been better than having the Cold War for 50 years and Stalin killing as many people as Hitler did.Indeed. Sadly, it was not to be.
Oissan posted:By that logic, the allies should have stopped fighting the Nazis and let them destroy the Soviets, because that outcome would have been better than having the Cold War for 50 years and Stalin killing as many people as Hitler did.
cbagmjg posted:The jedi failed Revan and Malak by not just turning their backs on them, but the galaxy as well. They let worlds burn just because they were only Mandalorians, not Sith. The jedi teachings of this era were very flawed and while people chaulk Kreia up to being a old coot and nothing more, she tends to make far more sense then most jedi in this era. Perhaps Revan and Malak could of been avoided if the Jedi did what they were supposed to do. If you take refuge in the heart of the Republic and turn your back when others need you the most, then I would call that evil in it's own way. It's not just the Draays who have everything, the jedi have far more power then the Draays ever had and they pretty much sat back and did nothing. Apathy equals death.
Sentry_21 posted:Charlemagne19, you really need to back this stuff up with evidence. Otherwise, you appear to be ranting.
As for you repeated insistence that Revan is 'The Ulitmate Evil'... I'm not even sure what that means. Revan was definitely evil towards the end of his reign as DLotS, but he didn't start out that way. In my opinion, he was no more evil than the utterly amoral Mandalorians. Saying that all Jedi are pure good and all Sith are pure evil is a gross simplification.
Sentry_21 posted: the primary reason why the Jedi Council chose not to go to war is because Vandar had a vision which foretold the Jedi Civil War -- a vision which the council misinterprets as a warning against battling the Mandalorians.
Charlemagne19 posted: About the same as the Justice League is pure good and the Legion of Doom are evil. Or G.I. Joe is pure good and Cobra is Pure evil.
Vrook_Lamar posted: An organisation is not its members. On the Justice League (in certain incarnations) you have Superman who is pure good, Batman who is mostly good but not entirely sane and Plastic Man who just mucks about. Vrook Lamar's "good" isn't Qui Gon Jinn's "good", so Darth Revan's "evil" doesn't have to be Darth Malak's "evil".
Vrook_Lamar posted:cloneCommando1138 posted:Also, one of the jedi in the end looked a lot like jolee bindo... Whose known to have not left Kasyyk for years. Unless you're trying to say that EVERY black Jedi must be related.
Charlemagne19 posted:Yes, but the Jedi Knights are innately selfless do-gooders.
Charlemagne19 posted:Vrook is not a bad guy by any stretch of the imagination. He's made a decision based on the evidence that they need to look to be the needs of the majority of the galaxy. It was a mistake but I can't blame him. Likewise, it may have saved the galaxy from Revan.