Author Topic: Knights of the Old Republic #35, "Vindication" Part 4 (of 4)
Manisphere  2879 posts
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Date Posted: 11/13/08 11:32am Subject: RE: Knights of the Old Republic #35, "Vindication" Part 4 (of 4)
Master_Keralys posted:
Make that the 19th; the week of the 17th, but actual ship date is 19th, Manisphere. wink


And confirmed by Midtown Comics for the 19th. Thanks Keralys. wink

 

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Ackbar_Van_Gungan  1297 posts
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6318_Ackbar
Date Posted: 11/13/08 12:06pm Subject: RE: Knights of the Old Republic #35, "Vindication" Part 4 (of 4)
Ren_Stazi posted:

Darth Acedia: Hutt
Darth Maliss: Male Wookie
Darth Variss: Male Neimoidian
Darth Lutton: Male Human
Darth Invidia: Female Bothan
Darth Vanitas: Female Zeltron
Darth Asmoda: Female Zeltron



Darth Acedia: Hutt - I agree but Lutton being a Hutt might make more sense. Maybe one of the tree species?
Darth Maliss: Male Wookie - Maliss sounds more female. We've had Maul and Sion so a female would be a nice change, not sure of species but a Wookie Sith just seems wrong.

Darth Variss: Male Neimoidian - No Neimoidian Sith, I like a Feeorin. The fact that they get stronger as they get older adds to the conflict between Invidia and Variss. Defeating him would get harder over time.

Darth Lutton: Not sure. Maybe a Hutt

Darth Invidia: Female Bothan - Not a bad choice.

Darth Vanitas: Male Zeltron - Rather than having two characters that are hard to tell apart, have one male one female

Darth Asmoda: Female Zeltron - Sounds good.

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Ackbar_Van_Gungan  1297 posts
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Date Posted: 11/17/08 9:29am Subject: RE: Knights of the Old Republic #35, "Vindication" Part 4 (of 4)
Has this been confirmed for this Wednesday?

I'm thinking I might work from home so I can go get it on my lunch hour...

praying dancing praying dancing praying dancing praying dancing praying dancing [face_pray ing] dancing praying dancing praying dancing

I might be more excited for this than Episode III.

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burrie  1437 posts
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Date Posted: 11/17/08 11:59am Subject: RE: Knights of the Old Republic #35, "Vindication" Part 4 (of 4)
Can't wait to hear from you folks how this story arc is going to end. Do spoil as soon as you're capable. grin

 

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Zorrixor  4299 posts
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Date Posted: 11/17/08 12:20pm Subject: RE: Knights of the Old Republic #35, "Vindication" Part 4 (of 4)
I actually am going to try and remain spoiler free...

It is so not going to happen, but I am still going to try. praying

 

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Jedi Ben  9344 posts
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Date Posted: 11/17/08 3:32pm Subject: RE: Knights of the Old Republic #35, "Vindication" Part 4 (of 4)
Ackbar_Van_Gungan posted:
Has this been confirmed for this Wednesday?

I'm thinking I might work from home so I can go get it on my lunch hour...

praying dancing praying dancing praying dancing praying dancing praying dancing [face_pray ing] dancing praying dancing praying dancing

I might be more excited for this than Episode III.

-The Rebel Gungan


It IS confirmed.

After 3 years and 34 issues, KOTOR is about to hit its first major finale.....

(I say first because: You really think the title's going to end here? Of course not!)

Now Diamond had better deliver copies to my local and not repeat the fiasco that was Legacy #29....

 

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PointGiven  734 posts
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Date Posted: 11/17/08 4:10pm Subject: RE: Knights of the Old Republic #35, "Vindication" Part 4 (of 4)
I'm actually going back to my apartment tommorrow so I'll actually be able to pick it up on time and not have to wait a few weeks. So pumped!

 

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Ackbar_Van_Gungan  1297 posts
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Date Posted: 11/17/08 5:02pm Subject: RE: Knights of the Old Republic #35, "Vindication" Part 4 (of 4)
I can haz sticky?

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Master_Keralys  6378 posts
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Date Posted: 11/17/08 5:30pm Subject: RE: Knights of the Old Republic #35, "Vindication" Part 4 (of 4)
Wednesday. Patience, young one, patience!

We sticky on release day for these. happy

 

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Ackbar_Van_Gungan  1297 posts
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Date Posted: 11/19/08 8:08am Subject: RE: Knights of the Old Republic #35, "Vindication" Part 4 (of 4)
drooling - Going to pick this up on my lunch hour. Sticky please!

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Jedi Merkurian  11588 posts
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Date Posted: 11/19/08 8:36am Subject: RE: Knights of the Old Republic #35, "Vindication" Part 4 (of 4)
i can haz spoilerz?

 

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SithStarSlayer  8619 posts
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Date Posted: 11/19/08 9:08am Subject: RE: Knights of the Old Republic #35, "Vindication" Part 4 (of 4)
Yes, pweez...

 

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PointGiven  734 posts
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Date Posted: 11/19/08 9:18am Subject: RE: Knights of the Old Republic #35, "Vindication" Part 4 (of 4)
I'm getting it in an hour!

Won't be able to post spoilers until 4 hours from now though thanks to classes

 

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Grey1  1709 posts
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Date Posted: 11/19/08 10:33am Subject: RE: Knights of the Old Republic #35, "Vindication" Part 4 (of 4) - Date Edited: 11/19/08 10:50am (1 edits total) Edited By: Grey1
I'm the first one who's read it and posts here? Tee hee...

Oi, spoilers... I normally don't like these, but I guess some general developments are okay to post... the best part are the little details and the actual character interaction anyway.

It starts right in the duel between Zayne and Lucien. During a break, Zayne tries to talk Lucien into going after Haazen instead, going something like "ok, do what he wants, you've always only done what other people want" (no direct quote). Haazen gets a delivery of the Jedi Council's hidden Sith artifacts in the garden. Gryph flees to the same spot. Then comes the duel part from the preview, which ends with the Barrison statue falling onto Lucien. Zayne does another stab at the buried body, then kneels down before Haazen. Which is of course a ruse. Once Zayne cuts of the arm with the gauntlet, he and Gryph get catapulted away by the Force. By - surprise surprise - Lucien, who set up a con with Zayne. Lucien uses the gauntlet to command the ships to blow up the compound, which should take care of Haazen, Lucien, all known Sith artifacts, everything Covenant, and Zayne's lightsaber, while we're at it. Zayne and Gryph survived, of course, which allows Zayne for one of his best lines ever (which should be the new catchphrase for the series) and a nice Zayne/Gryph moment.

Everything else gets summed up on the next few pages while Gryph and Jarael listen to Karath's official speech - with the official story being in the interest of everyone involved, meaning not really truthful. Jarael says that Alek testified for Zayne, but left again because the Council is against additional Jedi groups more than ever. He's also calling himself Malak until peace has been restored (and we all know how that will turn out). Jarael didn't go with him, even though she wanted to, but rather looks after Rohlan. Gryph thinks he'll lose Zayne to the Jedi, but here's the big surprise - he doesn't. Zayne leaves the Jedi to become Gryph's partner, but took a new saber and one of those black vaderish knight outfits with him. Party on, Zayne! Party on, Gryph!

Meanwhile, back on a ranch on a distant moon, Lucien has gone into exile, having survived thanks to that Sith artifact. Which showed him the way to become a Lord Of Pain. Which he didn't, thanks to Daddy, who always didn't do what others expected. So Lucien goes to this secret private moon where he formed his own hidden Covenant of farmer Jedi. Everyone (including Big L) is wearing the brown simple-man-Obi-Wan-robes, and Lucien says the Jedi will live on even after troubled times, finally having seen his future.

Tadaa.


So come on, I want to discuss this thing.

First of all, as for Lucien, I suppose we won't see him again in the comic - his arc seems to be over for good. Finito. An Ex-arc.

That said, it still toys with Lucien being Sion, the Lord of Pain - Lucien gets hurt, even though not nearly enough to look like Sion. He's got more resemblance to Kreia, by the way... thinking wink

His private moon is orbiting a Mustafar-like planet that hangs in the sky, I'm not sure if that has to mean/foreshadow anything. However, in personal canon, we can still assume that he started down the dark path and that it dominates his destiny forever... grin I was one of the first to invest into this theory, so I'll defend it until JJM explicitly states that he never, ever thought about Lucien being similar to Sion until the fan speculation was there, and that he only did these final two Sion mentions as a tease or a nod or something. It's not hard to do, is it? wink

Zayne's choice isn't really that surprising, and I guess it won't affect the stories as we already have the concept of the wandering "freelance-Jedi" who's still doing good. I wonder why he got a replacement lightsaber, though... I mean, ok, OOU it was the intention to shuffle things up with a new saber(colour, presumably, judging by future covers). IU, however, if the Jedi let him go with all that training and all, why let him have a saber (and look like a real Jedi to the outside world) at a time when they explicitly want to totally control the flock?

The huge Lucien and Zayne con can be seen coming as soon as Zayne kneels down. It's a bit strange when we last see Zayne getting through to Lucien, then the next time they come around, they fight again. And when Zayne goes totally out of character, we know that something is up. Although the smashing and stabbing once again nourished hopes for Lucien becoming Sion. mischief

Some really iconic imagery in there, and even though lots of the cleanup happens only in expository dialogue, it's a fun "final issue" for the arc. Judging by the letter column, the plan is to have about a year of random adventures for the CarGryph Crew right now. I guess they'll finally sneak a new arc into that material, but as for now, we can go a bit slower on the conspiracy theories.

 

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Charlemagne19  26812 posts
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Date Posted: 11/19/08 10:39am Subject: RE: Knights of the Old Republic #35, "Vindication" Part 4 (of 4)
As odd as this may seem

I find that a tremendously sucky ending.

 

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