Katana_Geldar posted:Jacen stopped being interesting in DN, period.
Ulicus posted:Katana_Geldar posted:Jacen stopped being interesting in DN, period. Eh? No. Whilst I hated the way TDN bastardised what Vergere actually said and seemed to forget everything Luke said at the end of TUF, Jacen himself was incredibly interesting (even though he was very different from the man he was at the end of the NJO), and one of the reasons I got so psyched for LotF. Still... I seriously wouldn't be surprised to see Jacen return, and for them to sweep Caedus under the rug as some replicant who replaced him between the NJO and TDN.
Ulicus posted:Still... I seriously wouldn't be surprised to see Jacen return, and for them to sweep Caedus under the rug as some replicant who replaced him between the NJO and TDN.
Darthbane2007 posted:I'm sorry, but I still don't see Caedus work as a Sith Lord. He hasn't done any sort of act in my eyes that would make you say " Wow, he's a Sith." It would have been better had he become some sort of dark jedi after his bout with the Yuuzhan Vong, doing some evil deeds, further distancing himself from his family and fellow Jedi. Then maybe when the time came for him to become a sith, it wouldn't have felt so rushed.
Charlemagne19 posted:If anything, the problem is the lack of consistently used next-gen characters. Because Lowbacca and Tenel Ka are buckets of characterization. I like them just fine but its sort of like saying Frank and Joe Hardy are deep dramatic characters. But yes, for me, I was actually counting the days til Jacen Solo was dealt with in a permanent manner because each book was yet another example of him being an incompetent and shallow two dimensional villain. We never get a decent reason why he chose to fall to the Dark Side or why he felt that the Corellian Crisis was such a galaxy shattering event that he had to turn to the powers of evil. There was no characterization for Jacen either. He turned against his family utterly and completely with no hesitation, which made him dramatically less interesting. Worse, we never actually even got to hear a coherent plan for Galactic Conquest from Jacen. There was no "cool" factor with armor, new weapons, or soldiers either. In other words, he sucked on nearly every concievable level.
Whizkid posted:Charlemagne19 posted:If anything, the problem is the lack of consistently used next-gen characters. Because Lowbacca and Tenel Ka are buckets of characterization. I like them just fine but its sort of like saying Frank and Joe Hardy are deep dramatic characters. But yes, for me, I was actually counting the days til Jacen Solo was dealt with in a permanent manner because each book was yet another example of him being an incompetent and shallow two dimensional villain. We never get a decent reason why he chose to fall to the Dark Side or why he felt that the Corellian Crisis was such a galaxy shattering event that he had to turn to the powers of evil. There was no characterization for Jacen either. He turned against his family utterly and completely with no hesitation, which made him dramatically less interesting. Worse, we never actually even got to hear a coherent plan for Galactic Conquest from Jacen. There was no "cool" factor with armor, new weapons, or soldiers either. In other words, he sucked on nearly every concievable level. You're either intentionally dumbing down what transpired in LotF or didn't read it. Jacen believed a strong leader was needed to stop the near perpetual violence that has engulfed the GFFA, someone who was above petty nepotism and looking out for family first. For me, the fact he turned against his family MADE him interesting. His plan wasn't one of galactic conquest. He wanted to end galaxy wide war. He reminded me very much of a Woodrow Wilson "make the world safe for democracy" type leader. He was neither a Palpatine or a Vader; he was very much his own character. Obviously I believe he was wrong as war can never be ended by a single person, but his fundamental motivation was unique for SW and that was what made him interesting.
NelanisGhost posted: Yeah, perpetual violence instigated by LUMIYA. She started the whole thing and he knew it. He's either unbelievably daft or he just wanted to rule. Which is what I think. He just was bored with his silver spoon life. "The World Is Not Enough". He wanted to rule it, not just live as one of it's most priveleged members.