Author Topic: Mandalorian Fleet Strength
UltimateMandalore  454 posts
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Date Posted: 9/21/08 9:08am Subject: Mandalorian Fleet Strength
So how powerful is Mandalore during the Legacy? How many planets do they have under control? Do they even have a fleet?

 

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AdmiralNick22  6913 posts
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Date Posted: 9/21/08 9:19am Subject: RE: Mandalorian Fleet Strength
UltimateMandalore posted:
So how powerful is Mandalore during the Legacy? How many planets do they have under control? Do they even have a fleet?


Legacy of the Force or the Legacy comics?

If you are refering to the LOTF, the Mandalorians do not appear to have capital ships anymore. Their space forces appear to be a mix of Firespray-class patrol ships and two new native designs which I cannot remember how to spell. Basically one is a starfighter and the other the equivilent of a flying space tank armed to the teeth.

If you are curious about Legacy, the answer is that we have zero info on the status of the Mandalorians as of 137 ABY. The only minor mention was that Hondo Karr, currently a member of Rogue Squadron serving in Gar Stazi's fleet, had a past history that included former stormtrooper and former Mandalorian warrior.

Other than that, we have very little info as to whether Mandalorians in either era maintained capital ships. Given the nomadic and scattered nature of them in the post-Imperial era, I doubt that they maintain fleets like they did in the KOTOR timeframe.

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patchworkz7  3179 posts
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Date Posted: 9/21/08 9:20am Subject: RE: Mandalorian Fleet Strength
UltimateMandalore posted:
So how powerful is Mandalore during the Legacy? How many planets do they have under control? Do they even have a fleet?


I'm kind of hoping the SW Atlas will give some more info on the Mandalore Sector, but basically even if they control a sector the actual number of Mandalorians in in the low millions, iirc. The two known Mandalorian controlled companies produce capital ships and fighters, but probably not that fast and probably mostly for export.

It's also unknown whether they maintain a standing armed forces beyond simply having various Mandos fly patrol around their planets. They never really recovered from the Empire before the Vong hit, and then they only slightly recovered from that.

The only thing they really have going for them is that enemies like the Empire tend to want to get at the ore so hold off on BDZ'ing them, and the fact that post-Empire, they simply hire themselves out as shock troops, bounty hunters, and so on.

By the time of LoTF, it's clear that everyone has accepted the fact that they're not going to be intergalactic players, and while Boba needed the Verpine to bring the new fighter production up, that unfortunately backfired when the mutual defense treaty kicked in and they lost some of their very few elite troops in the brief war with the Empire.

Boba and most of the Clan Leaders have seen the wisdom of Venku's political thoughts on simply bringing the Mandos home and closing off their sector, essentially becoming neutral at best and completely isolationist at worst with the possible exception of continuing to sell weapons and ships, but during LoTF there's a huge effort to get Mandos back to the Mandalorian sector to rebuild planet devestated by over 100 years of warfare.

As a weapons producer and perhaps military advisors they could be useful, but as full on armies and such they couldn't raise anything that could threaten most of the main players in the galaxies for some time, if ever.

 

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patchworkz7  3179 posts
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Date Posted: 9/21/08 9:33am Subject: RE: Mandalorian Fleet Strength
AdmiralNick22 posted:
UltimateMandalore posted:
So how powerful is Mandalore during the Legacy? How many planets do they have under control? Do they even have a fleet?


Legacy of the Force or the Legacy comics?

If you are refering to the LOTF, the Mandalorians do not appear to have capital ships anymore. Their space forces appear to be a mix of Firespray-class patrol ships and two new native designs which I cannot remember how to spell. Basically one is a starfighter and the other the equivilent of a flying space tank armed to the teeth.
--Adm. Nick


ISTR that Goran and a lot of Fett's troops flew Gladiator class starfighters in APM during the Vong war, and the two new classes during LoTF were the Basilisk fighter and the Tra'kad (Starsaber, iirc), a fighter and the "flying tank" respectively which was essentially a flying weapons platform.

 

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UltimateMandalore  454 posts
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Date Posted: 9/21/08 9:34am Subject: RE: Mandalorian Fleet Strength
AdmiralNick22 posted:
UltimateMandalore posted:
So how powerful is Mandalore during the Legacy? How many planets do they have under control? Do they even have a fleet?


Legacy of the Force or the Legacy comics?


Yeah sorry, I meant LotF.

 

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Sinrebirth  18923 posts
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Date Posted: 9/22/08 5:16am Subject: RE: Mandalorian Fleet Strength
In Sacrifice, the Mandalore Sector is noted by Fett to include half a dozen worlds, and there are around 15 million Mandalorians in the galaxy - 4.5 million of which were on Mandalore when the 5th Fleet visited them to do some 'urban reconstruction'...

The majority of Mandalorian capital ship designs seem to have been absorbed into the Zann Consortium, whom used Keldabe-class battleships and Crusader-class corvettes, I believe, manufactured by Mandalorian companies. The Mandalorians also, in that era, made use of Venator-class Star Destroyers, but it's likely these were all destroyed by Zann or Grunger or the Nagai, as they aren't evident by 40 ABY.

Q-class carriers, PES's, Bessies, Trakads, Gladiator fighters, Aggressors and Firespray-class fighters are used by the Mandalorians at the moment, though X-wings were mentioned in Revelation as well.

Remember, the 'national' Mandalorian Army is simply the hundred Protectors, with their various Trakads and Bessies. Individual Mandalorians can fly anything, practically speaking, I imagine.

In terms of strength, the remnants of the Fifth Fleet were enough to trash Mandalore - so they're incredibly weak, in galactic terms.

 

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Gratulor  168 posts
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Date Posted: 9/22/08 6:34am Subject: RE: Mandalorian Fleet Strength
They were building up from the losses they suffered after both the Mandalorian Civil War (Open Seasons), the Clone Wars and the Vong War. So they probably didn't get very active again during the Legacy comic era. I like to believe they still manufactured some types of ships in the meantime, but not for their own use. We see that with the Hutt ships, the Virago and the Zann Consortium ships.

Mandalorians in this timeframe also didn't get involved in major wars as a stand-alone faction, but rather be hired out by one and then fight alongside them. So their fleets wouldn't exactly be large-scale.

 

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