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Xicer Registered: Aug '08	Date Posted: 4/9 3:32am Subject: Invasion #1, part 1 (of 5)
	Master_Keralys posted: 19, actually, as well as at least 3 e-books and a lengthy short story. And a campaign guide. And a comic (SW Tales). Don't forget that Insider short story! -----signature----- "Just before your arrival, Moneo and I were discussing Infinity." "Poor Moneo." --Leto II and Malky, "God Emperor of Dune"
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Master_Keralys Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Oct '03	Date Posted: 4/9 5:41am Subject: Invasion #1, part 1 (of 5)
	That would be the lengthy short story I was referring to. -----signature----- God made man. Man rejected God. God became the man Jesus Christ, died and rose again to life, saving man from himself. The craziest story ever told. The truest.
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Sven_Starcrown Registered: Mar '09	Date Posted: 4/9 5:47am Subject: Invasion #1, part 1 (of 5)
	So its Luke, too bad, i hoped for Jacen. -----signature----- Nobody's perfect. There was never a perfect person around. You just have half-angel and half-devil in you.
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Zorrixor Registered: Sep '04	Date Posted: 4/9 7:26am Subject: Invasion #1, part 1 (of 5) - Date Edited: 4/9 7:33am (3 edits total) Edited By: Zorrixor
	BobaMatt posted: Same way you throw a rock. It's been done in the books, just...not this early in the war... It happened in the books? Admittedly, I vaguely recall discussions about gusts of wind once. Though, if memory serves me right, I think it was to justify the odd discrepancy or ambiguity in the series, where the case probably was actually that the author had made a boo-boo, which then needed to get retconned somehow that it wasn't a continuity issue. I can't recall Luke and co. openly throwing Vong around even in TUF though, as I always thought they remained pretty much Force immune the whole series? Books aside, my expectation is that it's just cover art. I'd be kind of surprised if we saw Luke openly laying the smack down in the first issue. Seems to me it's just there for "Wow!" factor, which is often the case for first issues. With the whole "six months on, six months off" thing I'm guessing there won't be as many Luke and co. issues either, as they'll need to spend pretty much all their page time on the main comic book cast. Which is why I really wish it was a regular monthly.
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trooper0074 Registered: Oct '07	Date Posted: 4/9 8:00am Subject: Invasion #1, part 1 (of 5)
	Use the force to manipulate the air and create a LARGE gust/blast. Vong aren't immune to "wind". Vong weren't immune to the force, just outside the Jedi abiliy to sense them in the force, thus the Jedi were unable to direct the force on them. My take anyway.
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Zorrixor Registered: Sep '04	Date Posted: 4/9 9:51am Subject: Invasion #1, part 1 (of 5) - Date Edited: 4/9 10:06am (4 edits total) Edited By: Zorrixor
	It makes perfect sense from a logical perspective. From a narrative perspective though, it makes the Jedi seem rather dumb for ever having had a problem with the Vong. I'd rather see them retain their mystique though to avoid the bulk of the NJO series looking silly. I vaguely recall a discussion of a Vong being hurled away in an somewhat ambiguous piece of description during a duel, though I can't recall which duel it was. Either way, I think the general consensus was that it was a sort of whirlwind, but I think it was also acknowledged as more an authorial slip up than a conscious effort to downplay the threat. I'd prefer the argument remained that without drawing on the dark side, the Vong aren't generally very easy to attack because it means "using the Force for aggression", etc. Not that I've ever understood how Force pushing someone into a wall is any less aggressive, but whatever. I don't think there's ever been any other explanation though for why they didn't just blast the Vong around more with gusts of wind. Would have been pretty easy had Luke just strolled into Shimrra's throne room and sent the lot of them flying. After all, it's double edged sword for the Vong. They might have been "immune" to stuff but they were also unable to do anything to block Force powers either. If Jedi could have blasted them around, then the Vong would surely have just been non-Force-sensitive pushovers. Sure, you couldn't sense them in the Force for surprise attacks, but the same is sometimes said to be true of droids (though that seems to have been ignored in the purposes of the Clone Wars). But how many times were there surprise attacks? The odd optical poison spit from Nom Anor? It seems... weird that Jedi would have engaged Vong in swordfighting when they could easily have just slammed them into a bulkhead. There's got to be some kind of catch somewhere. All that aside, I'm still thinking it'll just be artistic licence on the cover. Even if the Vong were perfectly ordinary and not immune at all, it feels a bit odd they'd have a series set in such a horrific war begin with Luke kicking their asses in massive numbers. Which, changing topic slightly, makes me wonder: with how Dark Horse manage to have so many high quality, specially made monthly covers, it makes you wonder why the books can't manage the same.
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Xicer Registered: Aug '08	Date Posted: 4/9 11:47am Subject: Invasion #1, part 1 (of 5)
	Master_Keralys posted: That would be the lengthy short story I was referring to. I meant the other Insider short story: Or Die Trying. -----signature----- "Just before your arrival, Moneo and I were discussing Infinity." "Poor Moneo." --Leto II and Malky, "God Emperor of Dune"
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Lord_Hydronium Title: Literature Gardener Registered: Jun '02	Date Posted: 4/9 12:04pm Subject: Invasion #1, part 1 (of 5)
	Let's just spare Ker the pain of further correction and look at this list. -----signature----- Great midis have little midis Swimming round inside 'em And little midis have lesser midis And so ad infinitum.
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Manisphere Registered: Aug '07	Date Posted: 4/9 1:09pm Subject: Invasion #1, part 1 (of 5) - Date Edited: 4/9 1:13pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Manisphere
	Zorrixor posted: It makes perfect sense from a logical perspective. From a narrative perspective though, it makes the Jedi seem rather dumb for ever having had a problem with the Vong. I'd rather see them retain their mystique though to avoid the bulk of the NJO series looking silly. It seems... weird that Jedi would have engaged Vong in swordfighting when they could easily have just slammed them into a bulkhead. There's got to be some kind of catch somewhere. All that aside, I'm still thinking it'll just be artistic licence on the cover. Even if the Vong were perfectly ordinary and not immune at all, it feels a bit odd they'd have a series set in such a horrific war begin with Luke kicking their asses in massive numbers. Which, changing topic slightly, makes me wonder: with how Dark Horse manage to have so many high quality, specially made monthly covers, it makes you wonder why the books can't manage the same. A Force push wouldn't work as it's not really air pushing the object, it's the Force so Force pushing is out. (Except covers that take artistic license. ) It never did make sense to me why the Jedi didn't use telekinesis to the extreme in flinging stuff at the Vong. Then again it probably takes a master of Luke's calaber to employ telekinetics while also engaging in swordplay. I think the comic really should stick with the battle guidelines set by the books. Saber vs amphistaff. It's much more visual than a bunch of Force pushing and rock flinging anyway. Zorrixor posted: With the whole "six months on, six months off" thing I'm guessing there won't be as many Luke and co. issues either, as they'll need to spend pretty much all their page time on the main comic book cast. Which is why I really wish it was a regular monthly. Just seeing the part 1 (of 5) in the title of the thread makes me sad. I really wish it was a monthly as well. Not sure how it will work though with DT running concurrently. In 6 months who'll be starting a new arc, DT or Invasion? -----signature----- "Head of State, a Sith is just a Jedi who's gone off his meds."-Natasi Daala
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bschuster Registered: Mar '09	Date Posted: 4/9 1:49pm Subject: Invasion #1, part 1 (of 5)
	What is the focus of this story line? Between the books? Does it take place throughout the war, or just the first year? Will main characters get page time or is this a big side story during the war? Not sure if any of this is known at this point, but my curiousity has been aroused.
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Manisphere Registered: Aug '07	Date Posted: 4/9 1:56pm Subject: Invasion #1, part 1 (of 5)
	bschuster posted: What is the focus of this story line? Between the books? Does it take place throughout the war, or just the first year? Will main characters get page time or is this a big side story during the war? Not sure if any of this is known at this point, but my curiousity has been aroused. Pretty much all of your questions are answered here. -----signature----- "Head of State, a Sith is just a Jedi who's gone off his meds."-Natasi Daala
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bschuster Registered: Mar '09	Date Posted: 4/9 2:28pm Subject: Invasion #1, part 1 (of 5)
	Thanks for the link manisphere, this series sounds awesome!
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Inara Registered: Aug '05	Date Posted: 4/9 3:07pm Subject: Invasion #1, part 1 (of 5)
	I loved this image. I hope hope hope it's Shawnkyr. I'm trying to imagine who the wookiee could be - Chewie would have been dead by the time the Chiss got involved in the war (assuming that woman is a Chiss)...maybe Lowie? -----signature----- "The Sun Crusher was originally conceived as a humane alternative to Kyle Katarn." http://www.thedarknest.com Dark!Horny!Jacen 1 6177 86515
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Master_Keralys Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Oct '03	Date Posted: 4/9 3:52pm Subject: Invasion #1, part 1 (of 5) - Date Edited: 4/9 3:53pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Master_Keralys
	Mm, the images are supposed to be from the opening weeks of the war, IIRC, which would make it much too early for Chiss involvement. Several months in before they got involved, I believe. Edit: Though, that could of course be retconned, but I think it's more likely this is a case of an outside Chiss, rather than one from the EotH or some such. Bartender or something. Now if I could only find a way to work a "guy with a lightsaber and a few questions" joke into this post... -----signature----- God made man. Man rejected God. God became the man Jesus Christ, died and rose again to life, saving man from himself. The craziest story ever told. The truest.
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Inara Registered: Aug '05	Date Posted: 4/9 4:04pm Subject: Invasion #1, part 1 (of 5)
	Master_Keralys posted: Mm, the images are supposed to be from the opening weeks of the war, IIRC, which would make it much too early for Chiss involvement. Several months in before they got involved, I believe. Edit: Though, that could of course be retconned, but I think it's more likely this is a case of an outside Chiss, rather than one from the EotH or some such. Bartender or something. I was hoping that the image was from midway through the war, but you've crushed my hopes. Still, I'll take my Chiss any way I can get them. Even if they are bartenders, which admittedly, is a freaky thought - I was seriously weirded out by the one in the Jedi Outcast game. It just seems wrong that a member of Thrawn's species would mix drinks for a living. -----signature----- "The Sun Crusher was originally conceived as a humane alternative to Kyle Katarn." http://www.thedarknest.com Dark!Horny!Jacen 1 6177 86515
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