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TheLateAdmiralPiett Registered: Oct '04	Date Posted: 6/6 1:13am Subject: I like the Dark Empire Trilogy. How many enemies have I just made? [face_worried]
	Yes indeed. I'm a fan of these often-hated comics. I know a lot of things are sometimes compressed into single panels, because our imaginations are left to fill in the in-betweens. They also have the pacing of the films, if you ask me. What I mean by that is, taking books like Courtship Of Princess Leia, The Thrawn Trilogy, Jedi Academy Trilogy, or even Darksaber wouldn't work as a movie as well as these comics would. Plus, I really like the look of all the new weapons the Empire used, from the Eclipse I and II, down to the Imperial Howlrunners and Shadow Droids. Of course this is all my opinion, but you are entitled to tear it apart anyway, because I'm nice like that.
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patchworkz7 Registered: Mar '04	Date Posted: 6/6 1:15am Subject: I like the Dark Empire Trilogy. How many enemies have I just made? [face_worried]
	TheLateAdmiralPiett posted: Yes indeed. I'm a fan of these often-hated comics. I know a lot of things are sometimes compressed into single panels, because our imaginations are left to fill in the in-betweens. They also have the pacing of the films, if you ask me. What I mean by that is, taking books like Courtship Of Princess Leia, The Thrawn Trilogy, Jedi Academy Trilogy, or even Darksaber wouldn't work as a movie as well as these comics would. Plus, I really like the look of all the new weapons the Empire used, from the Eclipse I and II, down to the Imperial Howlrunners and Shadow Droids. Of course this is all my opinion, but you are entitled to tear it apart anyway, because I'm nice like that. I always see people talking about how hated those comics are...but then in the threads that tend to come about we have loads of people talking about how much they liked them. It has been some time since I read them, but when I did I thought they were fair enough. DEII and CE was a touch shakey though, especially DEII, but they were still rather good, imho. -----signature----- Original Fiction & essays "Does God Limp?" in HOUSE UNAUTHORIZED http://www.smartpopbooks.com/allbooks/2007.html#house Now in German and Polish Editions! James A Gilmer
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Jedi Ben Registered: Jul '99	Date Posted: 6/6 2:18am Subject: I like the Dark Empire Trilogy. How many enemies have I just made? [face_worried]
	You have as many enemies as you have friends! For this is a long-running schism on the board and it's never going to close, such is fandom. That said, be aware one of the Mods may redirect to your interest to an existing DE thread but that's their call to make. -----signature----- Excellence: "You are the forum's Quick Ben." SW EU fans: John Ostrander needs your help! http://www.comix4sight.com
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Excellence Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 6/6 6:35pm Subject: I like the Dark Empire Trilogy. How many enemies have I just made? [face_worried]
	By the soletaken of Seven Cities, can we please have one Official Dark Empire Discussion thread. This is literally a monthly resurgance now. -----signature----- Rock-a-by baby, on the treetop, Beaming with pride, the filth they hold, But when the wind blows, my temper implodes, High above a pit, filled with sharkticons, Down will come hardcover addicts, beaming no more. ©
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Dawud786 Registered: Dec '06	Date Posted: 6/6 9:34pm Subject: I like the Dark Empire Trilogy. How many enemies have I just made? [face_worried]
	^I thought we had one. This is as bad as the million and two Force threads... -----signature----- http://blogs.starwars.com/slaveoftheforce
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black_saber Registered: Apr '02	Date Posted: 6/6 9:52pm Subject: I like the Dark Empire Trilogy. How many enemies have I just made? [face_worried]
	I liked the Dark Empire Trilogy too. -----signature----- "Just when I thought I was out , they push me back in." I never liked micheal Jackson and he was always a looney.
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DarthIktomi Registered: May '09	Date Posted: 6/6 10:30pm Subject: I like the Dark Empire Trilogy. How many enemies have I just made? [face_worried]
	It was okay. It just had a few potential jump-the-shark moments. (My favorite: The PLANET of Jedi.)
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Asharak Registered: Apr '03	Date Posted: 10/31 11:25am Subject: I like the Dark Empire Trilogy. How many enemies have I just made? [face_worried]
	Dark Empire I and II are the best EU material ever written IMHO. Empires End is a disgrace though, it was to short and small scale. How Dark Horse can keep earning so much on the Dark Empire property, but not give it the grand conclusion it deserves is just baffling. It deserved better. -----signature----- "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die." - Roy Batty
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Tzizvvt78 Registered: Jun '09	Date Posted: 10/31 11:27am Subject: I like the Dark Empire Trilogy. How many enemies have I just made? [face_worried]
	Dark Empire I and II are among my favorite stories, and my first real experience of SW altogether, years before I saw any movies. The art shows everything in such a big scale, it fits well in with the movies.
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rumsmuggler Registered: Aug '00	Date Posted: 10/31 12:11pm Subject: I like the Dark Empire Trilogy. How many enemies have I just made? [face_worried]
	I'm a fan of Dark Empire for the most part. Never really dug EE, but overall, it's good. -----signature----- W.W.L.D. What Would Lando Do
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Zorrixor Registered: Sep '04	Date Posted: 10/31 2:04pm Subject: I like the Dark Empire Trilogy. How many enemies have I just made? [face_worried] - Date Edited: 10/31 3:12pm (4 edits total) Edited By: Zorrixor
	I love Dark Empire. I wouldn't mind Dark Empire II if it didn't end on a cliffhanger. I despise Empire's End for being a rushed ending to said cliffhanger. It's EE that really does the "Dark Empire Trilogy" in for me. I've long wanted a novelisation of Dark Empire itself, but everything after that has forever left a sour taste because of what EE is (and, by extension, the way it means DE2's ending remains an unsatisfactory cliffhanger). Had they just made EE the same length as the first two, I think the trilogy would have been much better. It's not that I dislike the second Eclipse, the Galaxy Gun, the Dark Side Elite, Sedriss, surviving Jedi, Han shooting Palps in the back... all of that is fine and much of it has been neglected by the later EU, which I've often felt has been unfairly held against DE2 itself (i.e. it isn't DE2's fault that nothing in it is ever mentioned anywhere else). It's just the way it seemed such a frantic rush and so nowhere near as epic as the original Dark Empire itself. We had this awesome clone story and this great final death of Palpatine at the hands of Luke and Leia (have we ever seen them join together as Jedi like that again since?). Bringing him back yet again was a bold move and a big gamble and it could have paid off and made it into an even better series than it already was... but then it just got cut short and ended way too abruptly. Sadly, I think in a way it probably fell victim to its own success. Dark Empire was a fairly simple plot really. Luke gets captured, corrupted, redeemed, kills Emperor. Then they brought in all the additional aforementioned plotlines, leaving so much stuff either unresolved or simply rushed in the end. I think it also suffered from the way Dark Empire 2 felt "tacked on" as something of an afterthought, we didn't see the Dark Side Elite in Dark Empire, for example, where instead we simply got the hulking Sentinels. It'd have been good to have seen more build up for Sedriss, but presumably they didn't originally conceive of doing anything beyond the initial Dark Empire plot. On the whole, I'd have liked to have seen much more of Korriban, more insight into the Byss politics with the Dark Side Elite (like we got between Luke and the Emperor), more page time to build Palp's fear of dying up more, etc. I think it's great the way guys like Abel have tried to retcon DE2 and EE to be more entertaining, the whole Lumiya and Carnor Jax element have provided a satisfying mix of political intrigue, the likes of which I'd have liked to have seen more of in the comic itself (which we could just simply have had from the Dark Side Elite members instead). All this said though, I do still like Dark Empire, I just feel it's a shame a great story got dragged down because of its sequel. That's probably the biggest disappointment I have with DE2, as I feel without it we may have seen Dark Empire itself remembered more fondly.
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Darth_Furio Registered: Apr '08	Date Posted: 10/31 2:37pm Subject: I like the Dark Empire Trilogy. How many enemies have I just made? [face_worried]
	I enjoyed the DE Trilogy. It was a different way of looking at the Star Wars Universe. I also think it's pretty funny how the EU has forgotten or neglected the DE Trilogy, meanwhile the current generation of novels seem to be leading towards the LEGACY comics. Do they just like the LEGACY comics more? -----signature----- Darth Caedus, You should have been So Much More!
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Arawn_Fenn Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 10/31 2:38pm Subject: I like the Dark Empire Trilogy. How many enemies have I just made? [face_worried]
	Darth_Furio posted: I also think it's pretty funny how the EU has forgotten or neglected the DE Trilogy Stover included a nod to it in LS&TSOM, IIRC. -----signature----- "Just when you think the amount of fail cannot possibly increase, the Internet keeps on giving." - SalvorHardin "Let's see them argue with nature and persuade the nonexistent polar bears not to eat them." - crownarmourer
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Darth_Zandalor Registered: Aug '09	Date Posted: 10/31 4:18pm Subject: I like the Dark Empire Trilogy. How many enemies have I just made? [face_worried]
	Arawn_Fenn posted: Darth_Furio posted: I also think it's pretty funny how the EU has forgotten or neglected the DE Trilogy Stover included a nod to it in LS&TSOM, IIRC. sorry, off topic, but can anyone tell me what IIRC stands for?
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Arawn_Fenn Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 10/31 4:36pm Subject: I like the Dark Empire Trilogy. How many enemies have I just made? [face_worried]
	If I remember correctly. -----signature----- "Just when you think the amount of fail cannot possibly increase, the Internet keeps on giving." - SalvorHardin "Let's see them argue with nature and persuade the nonexistent polar bears not to eat them." - crownarmourer
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ChildOfWinds Registered: Apr '01	Date Posted: 10/31 8:11pm Subject: I like the Dark Empire Trilogy. How many enemies have I just made? [face_worried] - Date Edited: 10/31 8:14pm (1 edits total) Edited By: ChildOfWinds
	I don't like DE at all, but I won't be your enemy. Zorrixor : Luke gets captured, corrupted, redeemed, kills Emperor. I don't agree that Luke was ever corrupted in DE. In the notes that came along with the original DE, it said that the more Luke learned about the dark side, the more he was repulsed by it. As I said in another thread, I do think Luke was foolish to go to Byss to try to destroy the Emperor from within, but he wasn't evil. Luke didn't commit evil, terrible acts. He didn't kill innocents or destroy worlds. Instead, Luke did his best to sabotage the Emperor's plans; to destroy Imperial property; to send the Alliance Imperial codes; and to save Alliance lives. He was more of an undercover agent than anything else. After Luke was defeated by the Emperor's last clone, he seemed to be in a funk. He seemed to lose hope that he would ever be able to beat the Emperor or get away from him. Leia restored that hope by telling him he would train her children. That's all it took, and presto-chango, Luke was fine. Then together he and Leia defeated the Emperor with the wall of Light. And Leeland Chee seems to agree with me that Luke didn't fall. In that huge Luke Skywalker comic Omnibus that came out this year, Leeland Chee says in his comments about DE that Luke "nearly fell" to the darkside in Dark Empire. So that Luke never completely went dark seems to be canon.
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