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181st Imperial Discussion Group: The Courtship of Princess Leia!
Charlemagne19
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Jul '00
Date Posted:
7/13 5:30pm
Subject:
181st Imperial Discussion Group: The Courtship of Princess Leia!
I think there needs to be something acknowledged about Pulp. Pulp fiction was, essentially, textual comic books more than anything else. There was a wide variety of stories during that time including Conan the Barbarian, Doc Savage, and the Weird Tales of Howard Phillips Lovecraft. Lumped in with Pulp, despite not being actually so, are also such comic strip heroes as Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon.
In general Pulp stories are no more fanciful or ridiculous than comic books are meant to be. If you can believe a man can fly then the idea that a Polo player from Yale can lead a revolution on the planet Mongo with a scientist and a generic love interest should not be that hard of a stretch in reverse. The Pulp stories contained fairly decent character development as well with Doc Savage being a well rounded hero with an extraordinarily detailed supporting cast in the Fabulous Four (Plus Pat Savaga a.k.a the World's only Super Scientist/Judo Master Hairdresser).
In Star Wars, I think there's a certain level of fancifulness that needs to be incorporated into the world itself for it to honestly feel like Star Wars. I think of
Doctor Who
as the best possible comparison. Doctor Who is not a comedy series and it is one of the most shockingly death filled shows on television. However, it also has a lighter tone to contrast against the massive numbers of deaths on screen.
I don't think there isn't room for stories like Shatterpoint and Traitor in Star Wars. However, I also think that the reason the
Clone Wars
have been so universally accepted is partially because they have that touch of whimsy that was largely absent from the Prequels.
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Excellence
Registered:
Jul '02
Date Posted:
7/14 4:09am
Subject:
181st Imperial Discussion Group: The Courtship of Princess Leia!
I liked this book. A
lot
.
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The2ndQuest
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Registered:
Jan '00
Date Posted:
7/19 10:47am
Subject:
181st Imperial Discussion Group: The Courtship of Princess Leia!
Courtship is the only SW novel I've read where Han and Leia's characterization is noticeably awful, having them act like kindergartners with their terrible "Do you love me now?" "No." "How about now?" "No!" scenes, and it almost ruins the book.
Luke's plotline is pretty good though, as is the general Dathomir/Imperial General material. It's also quite inetresting to consider another great reveal of this book when it was released: revealing the Rancor's homeworld and that it was part of an entire species. Up till this point, the Rancor was shrouded in mystery and possibly a unique creature. This was, obviously, before every damn videogame had to include an obligatory Rancor or mutant Rancor on a variety of planets. Still, back then, it was a big reveal.
However, the book also introduced Hapes, for which I shall never forgive it (only Denning has managed to barely make them interesting, and even then you usually hate most of the Hapans for being so focused on ridiculous pettiness in the face of greater threats).
The reappearance of the Iron Fist is also confusingly handled in the book, with the briefest of mentions. It took Allston 3 books to fix that confusion and have it make sense.
Han & Leia fans should avoid the book big time, and others should only read it as a disappointing conclusion to the Wraith books.
However, points for "Kiss my Wookiee".
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DarthIktomi
Registered:
May '09
Date Posted:
7/19 2:22pm
Subject:
181st Imperial Discussion Group: The Courtship of Princess Leia!
"Kiss my Wookiee" is awesome.
I like Dathomir, and I like seeing more women who can kick butt in
Star Wars
(One of the things I've always loved about Leia: Leia and Chewie are the only ones never holding the idiot ball throughout the movies.), but I'd be remiss if I didn't notice the unfortunate implications of a lost tribe of Jedi. I personally blame Mormons for the Great Spirit, happy hunting ground, and other Flanderizations of native theology into Crystal Dragon Jesus in the old Westerns.
Yeah, Han and Leia's characterization was atrocious. "Do you love me now?" She would if you hadn't kidnapped her. DumbPANTS.
Who is Warlord Zsinj and why should I care?
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