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snelson Registered: Aug '05	Date Posted: 7/1 8:11am Subject: Should Karen Traviss Write A Mandalorian War Novel?
	simce karen is a fan of mandalorians should she write a mandalorian war novel? -----signature----- I Love 1930'S 1940'S 1950'S Movies Hermione Granger Is A Beautiful Witch Dreaming Of Jeannie Olivia DeHavilland Still Kicking At 93 Daniel Radcliffe Is So Sweet Like Harry
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Ulicus Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 7/1 8:15am Subject: Should Karen Traviss Write A Mandalorian War Novel? - Date Edited: 7/1 8:16am (1 edits total) Edited By: Ulicus
	This'll go down well. My answer is "no". It's not personal, I just really dislike a lot of what she's done with the Mandalorians and I'd like to see (what I see as) the "damage" limited to post-RotJ. -----signature----- This is an imaginary story... aren't they all supposed to fit together, though? An animated cartoon about Obi-Wan and Padawan Anakin would have made more sense. Recipient of Golden Ewok™ and Golden EwokTrooper™
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Dawud786 Registered: Dec '06	Date Posted: 7/1 8:53am Subject: Should Karen Traviss Write A Mandalorian War Novel?
	I want to say no... just because I'd be interested in reading such a novel... but not by her. I don't like her work, especially as regards the Jedi. If she were to write a novel set in the Mandalorian Wars I'd like to see it accompanied by someone telling the other side of the tale. Her's would have to be Mando, and perhaps Revan/Malak centric(obviously set at the point that Revan and Malak are not extremely hacked off at the Jedi Council for whatever reason despite the fact that the Council has now officially gone on record as having signed off on their leading Republic forces into battle); while a different author could tell a very Jedi-centric story getting into their reasons for having been hesitant to enter the war and for why they eventually find fault with Revan and Malak and what not. Showing the Jedi to be good and all that. I wouldn't mind such a situation. Other than that... A standalone or a series done entirely by her, I'd be extremely uncomfortable with and very much less likely to read it. -----signature----- http://blogs.starwars.com/slaveoftheforce
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blackmyron Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 7/1 9:11am Subject: Should Karen Traviss Write A Mandalorian War Novel?
	She'll be writing about the Mandalorian Wars one way or another, considering she's writing the Essential Guide to Star Wars Military. -----signature----- Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. "Come on Dave, you're taking this stuff too seriously." - George Lucas "Reality can rarely be explained without contradictions." - Karnak
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Grey1 Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 7/1 9:25am Subject: Should Karen Traviss Write A Mandalorian War Novel?
	Completely ignoring the aspect of whether I'd read it or not, I think a Mandalorian-centric view at the Mandalorian War (which her novel would certainly be) would be better as a counter part to the "official" Republic story. If you're really into the era, you might know enough from the games and the comics to have a certain background knowledge about the war, but I doubt that the general public has an idea of how the conflict comes about, and why Revan goes to drastic measures to end it. A novel would, by convention, need a focus on somewhat 'good' non-mass-murderer characters, so a Mandalorian novel might certainly not be about Mandalore or Cassus, but rather about some bucketheads who are not 100% behind their nuking leadership. And this would be too much of a novelty take on a conflict that hasn't been fleshed out. Plus, we already have tons of such stories with good Imperials, which kills the novelty. -----signature----- Jacen had learned that one can meet the Universe [...] with fear, or with hatred, or with despair. Or one can choose to meet it with love. Jacen had chosen. But still, he was astonished to discover that the Universe could love him back.
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Robimus Registered: Jul '07	Date Posted: 7/1 9:26am Subject: Should Karen Traviss Write A Mandalorian War Novel?
	I'd rather Karen spend her time in the post ROTJ timeline as well, because I enjoy her work there. I'm simply not very interested in the KoTOR timeframe. -----signature----- I am forever seeking the damutek of Hooley Krekk Oh, woe! Oh, misery! Oh, unhappiness. Hooley Krekk where are you? . http://www.cccomiccon.com http://www.actionfigurenews.ca
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Ackbar_Van_Gungan Registered: Oct '04	Date Posted: 7/1 9:46am Subject: Should Karen Traviss Write A Mandalorian War Novel?
	Robimus posted: I'd rather Karen spend her time in the post ROTJ timeline as well, because I enjoy her work there. I'm simply not very interested in the KoTOR timeframe. Have you given it a try? I would say KOTOR is the best era going right now. The games were awesome and the comics are stellar. I would love a couple of novels and some more stories from that era. What would anyone think of a Revan/Malak pair of novels set up like Ender's Game/Ender's Shadow? -The Rebel Gungan -----signature----- My SFF blog: http://www.yetistomper.blogspot.com/ 1st Post= Golden Ewok™ No Prize! Unfortunate Sacred Slab of the Church of Waru -Curator of the Byss Orbiting Holographic History of Space Flight Museum
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DarthIktomi Registered: May '09	Date Posted: 7/1 9:47am Subject: Should Karen Traviss Write A Mandalorian War Novel?
	It'd just be an account of the Mandos in a concentration camp set up by the Jedi.
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Grey1 Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 7/1 9:50am Subject: Should Karen Traviss Write A Mandalorian War Novel? - Date Edited: 7/1 9:54am (1 edits total) Edited By: Grey1
	OK, 20 credits say this thread will get locked because of the way people present their opinions regarding Traviss's previous work. -----signature----- Jacen had learned that one can meet the Universe [...] with fear, or with hatred, or with despair. Or one can choose to meet it with love. Jacen had chosen. But still, he was astonished to discover that the Universe could love him back.
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Robimus Registered: Jul '07	Date Posted: 7/1 9:59am Subject: Should Karen Traviss Write A Mandalorian War Novel?
	Ackbar_Van_Gungan posted: Have you given it a try? I would say KOTOR is the best era going right now. The games were awesome and the comics are stellar. I would love a couple of novels and some more stories from that era. -The Rebel Gungan I liked both video games very much and didn't hate the two Bane novels. I admit I don't like that Revan and the Exile have been defined now outside of the games. I do want to give the comics a try but am waiting to get a deal on the Trades. See I'm pretty NJO/Empire centric in my geekery . I just can't wrap my head around a galaxy with no Galactic Empire or its off shoots. -----signature----- I am forever seeking the damutek of Hooley Krekk Oh, woe! Oh, misery! Oh, unhappiness. Hooley Krekk where are you? . http://www.cccomiccon.com http://www.actionfigurenews.ca
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Ackbar_Van_Gungan Registered: Oct '04	Date Posted: 7/1 10:08am Subject: Should Karen Traviss Write A Mandalorian War Novel?
	Robimus posted: Ackbar_Van_Gungan posted: Have you given it a try? I would say KOTOR is the best era going right now. The games were awesome and the comics are stellar. I would love a couple of novels and some more stories from that era. -The Rebel Gungan I liked both video games very much and didn't hate the two Bane novels. I admit I don't like that Revan and the Exile have been defined now outside of the games. I do want to give the comics a try but am waiting to get a deal on the Trades. See I'm pretty NJO/Empire centric in my geekery . I just can't wrap my head around a galaxy with no Galactic Empire or its off shoots. IMO, KOTOR comics are the best thing going in the EU right now. And as to your fear regarding Revan and the Exile, they haven't been very defined at all really. There has been some more backstory but we haven't seen either of their faces or anything that happens after the games. KOTOR comics occur prior to KOTOR I. Nothing to impact the game play at all. -The Rebel Gungan -----signature----- My SFF blog: http://www.yetistomper.blogspot.com/ 1st Post= Golden Ewok™ No Prize! Unfortunate Sacred Slab of the Church of Waru -Curator of the Byss Orbiting Holographic History of Space Flight Museum
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Bill-Thompson Registered: Jul '08	Date Posted: 7/1 10:18am Subject: Should Karen Traviss Write A Mandalorian War Novel?
	No, the last thing we need is another set of novels where everything Mando is god like and ultimately correct, while the rest of the universe is wrong because they aren't Mando. Plus, I'd like any work around the time of KOTOR to be done by people who are a part of the era and understand it, and it would be nice for KT to show that she can write something in SW that doesn't have the Mando's involved, whether naturally or through shoehorn methods. -----signature----- http://warstars.wordpress.com/ http://billsmovieemporium.wordpress.com/ http://billstvemporium.wordpress.com/ "You could warn me when I do something bad. Blink once for dark side, twice for light." - Revan
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Zorrixor Registered: Sep '04	Date Posted: 7/1 10:51am Subject: Should Karen Traviss Write A Mandalorian War Novel? - Date Edited: 7/1 11:46am (4 edits total) Edited By: Zorrixor
	I'm one of the few who actually likes her work... but my answer unfortunately has still got to be "no". At least not until every single detail in the era is clearly defined first. Why? Mostly because I don't want a novel that falls into the trap of sympathising with the enemy before we've even finished exploring them as the bad guys. The Sith Era isn't all that modernist as the Clone Wars and Post-NJO eras. The Mandalorians and Sith are bad; the Jedi and Republic are good: that's the kind of myths and legends approach that defines the Sith Era as unique compared to the "modern" eras. Sure, you can say "But it would make it more realistic". Yes, it would. But if one wants to read 100% realistic, non-classically heroic storytelling, why not read the modern eras? What I like about the KOTOR era is it is a breath of fresh air. Zayne is good. The Mandos are bad. That's what makes it nice and simple and fun. I like having diversity in the various eras approaches to the question of "What is Star Wars?" Sure, you get the odd "good Mando", but they're exceptions. I wouldn't want any novel that tried to make us sympathise with the whole lot of them. There have been ample hints in the games that the entire war was a setup by the Sith provoking the Mandos into war to sow the seeds for conquest and destruction. That means the Mandos are firmly entrenched on the villain side of things. I'd rather it stayed that way until the entire story of the Mandalorian and the Jedi Civil Wars are told. We can mess around and explore "the other side" once we're done telling the heroes' side and have publishing time spare. Until we actually see the story that tells us who, how and why the Sith provoked the Mandos, which I would prefer to see from a Jedi's perspective (or, at the very least, from a rogue Mando like Rohlan who was hunted by all the other Mandos). However, I do not want to read the story that tries to make us feel sorry for the Mandos and "poor, poor them for being tricked into this foolish war". Sure, that story could be told, but I think it worked much better in KOTOR2 as a retrospective realisation by Canderous, rather than a story during the war itself to try and make us feel sorry for the villains while they were still actually playing the villains. It also works better as something only the minority discover considering they continue being the Sith's henchmen for centuries (i.e. TOR). So, Sith Era novels = Yes, why not? But Mandalorian War novel =/= Preferably no, because if we're going to do Sith Era novels, I'd much rather it be about Bastila in the Jedi Civil War, and leave the Mandalorian War to the comics than focus everything on just one of the two. It's not that a Mando story couldn't necessarily work: you could easily create a bunch of Mira-type characters who were forcefully indoctrinated as kids, fell under the leadership of a more "noble" Mando like Canderous, and ended up being "heroic", but there are enough untold stories that need telling of the characters we already have before we go making new ones.
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ThisIsMadness91 Registered: Jun '09	Date Posted: 7/1 11:13am Subject: Should Karen Traviss Write A Mandalorian War Novel?
	I really enjoy the Republic Commando novels, but I can understand why some would say she favours Mandalorians over Jedi. I wouldn't mind her writing a Mandalorian Wars-era novel, but only if she didn't try to make us feel sorry for, oh say...Cassus Fett. He would have to remain the villain he is. As would Mandalore and most of the other Mandos. I don't mind the odd "good" Mando like Rohlan or the Mando from KOTOR issue 42 (she really needs a name, and I hope she gets one at some point), but if we ended up feeling sorry for people like Cassus (or even if so mcuh as an attempt was made to make us feel sympathy for them), it would ruin the Mandalorian Wars for me. -----signature----- Zayne Carricks beats Cade Skywalker every day of the week.
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JediAlly Registered: Oct '00	Date Posted: 7/1 11:33am Subject: Should Karen Traviss Write A Mandalorian War Novel?
	The current KOTOR comics are at least making references to the Mandalorian War. As for whether or not she should write a novel about the Mandalorian War, I think I would agree with what someone posted earlier - yes, but as a co-author. She would handle the Mandalorian perspectives and parts, while the other co-author(s) deal with the Jedi and/or the Republic perspectives and parts. -----signature----- A Gathering of Light - new site: http://boards.theforce.net/Beyond_the_Saga/b10477/15798221 Liberty and Custody: http://boards.theforce.net/message.asp?topic=14219579 Solo Rogue Jedi: http://boards.theforce.net/Beyond_the_Saga/b10477/15798533
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Tricky Registered: Jul '01	Date Posted: 7/1 11:49am Subject: Should Karen Traviss Write A Mandalorian War Novel?
	Kandosii! No one else would do a better job of it! -----signature----- "Six pints of bitter," said Ford Prefect to the barman of the Horse and Groom. "And quickly please, the world's about to end." We like to Suckadelic.com. The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is a wholly remarkable book
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