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Ebonn101 Registered: Jan '02	Date Posted: 9/8 12:49pm Subject: Page counts - Date Edited: 9/8 12:52pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Ebonn101
	Sorry that it's always me who seems to be whining about this, but I couldn't help myself: http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Fate-Jedi-Backlash/dp/0345509080/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1252439245&sr=8-1 256 pages!? 16 pages less than Omen?! It's like Del Rey is taking all of our criticisms regarding the brevity of FOTJ/LOTF and choosing to do the exact opposite!
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Wordslinger Registered: Jan '09	Date Posted: 9/8 12:51pm Subject: Page counts
	Isn't that page count due to change, per Sue announcing the longer time to write longer books?
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Ebonn101 Registered: Jan '02	Date Posted: 9/8 12:52pm Subject: Page counts
	I sure hope so!
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Hendo255 Registered: Feb '09	Date Posted: 9/8 1:35pm Subject: Page counts
	yea, don't worry it will be longer I think they got the hint after the uproar when Omen was so damn short -----signature----- Zayne is the Sith Emperor. Both use the Force, both lived around the same time and Zayne is friends with Gryph who is a notorious con-artist. See! it all fits together perfectly!
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jetsetterdavoo Registered: Aug '06	Date Posted: 9/8 4:19pm Subject: Page counts
	Necessarily I am not concerned by page counts so much. A great tale can be told in as little as a hundred pages. I wouldn't be too pumped over a new hundred pages being added to a book if it is all just pointless filler or if it waters down prose by forcing the authors to stretch things. That being said however, I strongly believe that the price for a new book should be adjusted somewhat to reflect length. I liked Omen more than I thought that I would and look forward to more from Golden. I was very disappointed to drop $27 on it though. I think that needs to be addressed. -----signature----- "Money is just something you throw off the back of a train." Tom Waits
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Ebonn101 Registered: Jan '02	Date Posted: 9/8 5:38pm Subject: Page counts
	I disagree, I really disliked Omen, simply for what I feel was the small page count. 272 pages led to a constant "tell, don't show" approach to the entire storyline. We essentially never learned ANYTHING about the Kathol Rift, the Aing Tii, or any of what Luke and Ben found there. We didn't even get the tiniest glimpse of what Ben saw by flow-walking with Tadar Ro. Another hundred pages or more could've easily fixed that problem. Maybe Golden isn't up to the job, but you know Denning and Allston are. I feel like an average page count of 350 pages per hardcover, with the turning point novels being Star by Star-esque epics is much more befitting of the grandeur and drama of a Star Wars story.
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DarthBoba Registered: Jun '00	Date Posted: 9/8 5:46pm Subject: Page counts
	Who cares? Page count doesn't necessarily equal quality. Go take a look at the Return Of The Jedi novelization from 1983; just over 200 pages and it completely rocks. -----signature----- Only a Prime can defeat Vader and his Emperor.
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Arawn_Fenn Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 9/8 7:23pm Subject: Page counts
	I have to say I didn't appreciate that book as a kid. I don't think I even finished it. I was too into all the new aliens in the beginning... -----signature----- "James T. Kirk was a great man... but that was another life."
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CooperTFN Title: TF.n EU Staff Emeritus Registered: Jul '99	Date Posted: 9/8 7:28pm Subject: Page counts
	I'm kind of with jet here; I wouldn't really care how long the books were if this wasn't coming at the exact same time as such a big hardcover push. -----signature----- Mike Cooper's Star Wars Blog http://blogs.starwars.com/coopertfn "Your tongues can't repel flavor of that magnitude!" "NAKED TWI'LEK WITH LIGHTSABER = MONEY" - Ris_jSarek "I bid you all Dark Greetings!"
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Brett_Bass Registered: Apr '03	Date Posted: 9/8 8:33pm Subject: Page counts
	I try not to count, as it involves numbers. And as we all know, numbers are notoriously pointy. -----signature----- Fleet Junkie. Ex-Official Senator, Gilad Pellaeon Fan Thread. Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori. Semper Fidelis. Silver Lannik™/Golden Ewok No-Prize/Statuette™ recipient. Special Golden Ewok™ WARLORD Statuette (with 8km SSD plinth) recipient.
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Qui-Gon_Reborn Title: Qui-Gon's Personal SWC Modsaber Registered: Dec '08	Date Posted: 9/8 8:54pm Subject: Page counts
	I never really pay attention to the numbers too much as long as it's a good book. Size matters not, as they say. Seriously, I'd much rather have a really short but really fantastic novel than a long, drawn-out novel that's painful to go through. -----signature----- Twenty years ago, there was another Edward with a strange disposition and even stranger hair that the ladies swooned over. This Edward had scissors for hands, but he was much, much cooler.
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Carnage04 Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 9/8 11:36pm Subject: Page counts
	I whined about this quite a bit before Abyss, which was absolutely fantastic despite being short. When I finished it, I got the "I wish it was longer because I want to read more!" feeling rather than the latter LoTF "I wish it was longer because adding more pages would make me feel like less of a fool for purchasing this book" feeling. -----signature----- Carnage I Finally decided to use a signature after 3500 posts! 3500 posts * 7 Characters = 24500 keystrokes wasted
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Sinrebirth Title: Sith Emperor of the SWC Registered: Nov '04	Date Posted: 9/9 5:57am Subject: Page counts
	And that feeling is only made worse when it's hardcover. I don't mind short books. I just don't like paying for short hardcovers; nobody does. It's too much in the middle of a recession. -----signature----- Darth Insipid Proud Fan of the Tragedy of Jacen Solo Missing Chapters of Invincible; Teaser of Chapter 9.5 is up! Wes vs Tarfang, Gavin and the Coup, Luke and Jacen, and much more! http://boards.theforce.net/beyond_the_saga/b10477/28933751/p3/?70
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Kalphite Registered: Sep '09	Date Posted: 9/9 8:58am Subject: Page counts
	Sinrebirth posted: And that feeling is only made worse when it's hardcover. I don't mind short books. I just don't like paying for short hardcovers; nobody does. It's too much in the middle of a recession. Let's bring e-readers into the discussion...they're increasingly on the rise...ie Kindle II, and Sony's new e-reader coming out in December. I plan on getting one (haven't decided which yet) sometime early next year. After this current series ends, I don't plan on ever buying another 'hard copy' of a star wars book again. To me, this makes issues involving hardcover/softcover or pagecount/dollar a thing of the past...
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ILLUMINATUS_JEDI Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 9/9 9:21am Subject: Page counts
	Nothing likle getting a good thick book which is a blockbuster, Star by Star for example. Just knowing a book's going to be 600+ pages adds another level of excitement IMO, especially round here. I don't want every book like that, quality over quanity argument is valid as always, but it had been a while since we had one, Unifying Force would probably have been last. -----signature----- "Pellaeon could have mustered a single Sector Fleet, BDZ`d the Killik Home world in 15 minutes, joined with the Chiss Empire to hunt down the Dark Nest, and completely negated the Killik “threat”. Never send a group of NJO Children to do an Imperial’s Job
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Manisphere Registered: Aug '07	Date Posted: 9/9 10:01am Subject: Page counts
	Page count does not equal better writing. That said, an overly short page count for a hardcover, (as in less than 300 pages) is simply robbery on the part of Del Rey. I've read great books that were 250 pages or so but they were mercifully paperback. Dan Brown's The Lost Symbol is listed at 528 pages and it's listed as the same price as Omen. That's just screwy. Tell me Omen couldn't have been a better novel with some expansion by the author. The addition of more dialogue. etc... About Backlash, Allston has never handed in a book that was less than 300 pages so I'm expecting the listing of the page count to go up by March. -----signature----- "Head of State, a Sith is just a Jedi who's gone off his meds."-Natasi Daala
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