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Skydancer Registered: May '01	Date Posted: 2/10/02 6:22pm Subject: SOS - SON OF SKYWALKER : YOU (THE FANS) ARE MY ONLY HOPE!! SAVE ME... (Spoilers) - Date Edited: 9/11/05 10:50pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Genghis12
	Why oh why, has Luke Skywalker, the man who is star wars, and the hero of the Original Trilogy, been put so far into the background in the NJO that he wasn't even in the latest book's Dramatis personae? His character has been badly written in the NJO, his roles are small, and he has accomplished little. I don't think it is time to retire Luke Skywalker yet... let alone DEAD!!! He is still much, much, much, younger than Yoda, Obi-Wan, or even Anakin Skywalker, and with so much more potential as compared to those three, why isn't he being portrayed to his fullest capability in the EU? PLEASE HELP US with this thread to clamor, and shout to Del Rey and LFL to give this man better characterizations and larger, more useful roles. HELP US to make it known that he has fans out here who miss the Jedi Master and who are anxious to have the character we knew and loved brought back. HELP US SAVE THE LEADER OF THE NEW JEDI ORDER - THE FATHER OF THE NEW SON OF SKYWALKER - YOU ARE HIS ONLY HOPE! G12: 10K - Time for the next round. -----signature----- To LFL/DELREY: NJO = AU NOT STAR WARS!!! ************************************* Hooray to all of you in SOS!! Keep up the good fight!! *************************************
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IAmTheDarkSide Registered: Jan '02	Date Posted: 2/10/02 6:26pm Subject: RE: SOS - SON OF SKYWALKER : YOU (THE FANS) ARE MY ONLY HOPE!! SAVE ME...
	He's a big plot of Allston's upcoming books... -----signature----- Mastadge
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JediJSolo Registered: Jun '01	Date Posted: 2/10/02 6:37pm Subject: RE: SOS - SON OF SKYWALKER : YOU (THE FANS) ARE MY ONLY HOPE!! SAVE ME...
	He has a wife and child. That is good enough for me. He is trying to keep his kid out of harms way, and I applaud him for that. PLEASE HELP US with this thread to clamor, and shout to Del Rey and LFL to give this man better characterizations and larger, more useful roles. Hasn’t he saved the galaxy more times than we can count? Hasn’t he become the most powerful Jedi in the GFFA? What more do you want? Don’t you think that it’s about time for someone to take his place at the head of the action? He’s been on the front line long enough. Let the hero COP take his desk job reward. I think that the man deserves to settle down with his wife and kid for a while, if he wants to. -----signature----- The Force reflects the life that creates it... Constructive criticism or reviews requested: http://boards.theforce.net/Beyond_the_Saga/b10477/20439765/?3
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Dewlanna Solo Registered: Oct '99	Date Posted: 2/10/02 7:15pm Subject: RE: SOS - SON OF SKYWALKER : YOU (THE FANS) ARE MY ONLY HOPE!! SAVE ME...
	Don’t you think that it’s about time for someone to take his place at the head of the action? Nope. He’s been on the front line long enough. Let the hero COP take his desk job reward. I enjoy reading about Luke, I think he can still be the main part of a story and be a good husband and father. Right now he seems to be denied both the active hero role and the retired hero role. I think that the man deserves to settle down with his wife and kid for a while, if he wants to. Once he takes care of the Vong he CAN settle down. It WOULD have been nice to read stories of Luke and his wife in semi retirement, taking on a promising apprentice or two, occasionally stepping in to settle disputes, leading in the rebuilding of the Jedi, but instead we get this alien invasion, the too sudden elevation of former child stars into action heros and the demotion of the original heros into has-beens. -----signature----- Those who will not follow are doomed to lead.
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Skydancer Registered: May '01	Date Posted: 2/10/02 7:34pm Subject: RE: SOS - SON OF SKYWALKER : YOU (THE FANS) ARE MY ONLY HOPE!! SAVE ME...
	Hasn’t he saved the galaxy more times than we can count? Hasn’t he become the most powerful Jedi in the GFFA? What more do you want? Yes, Luke Skywalker has done that many times, but he has yet to be written as he should be - a wise respected leader who has spend his whole life wanting nothing but peace and the proper usage of the Jedi talents by the next generation. He is still not too old to lead a war, but the NJO has decided to put him aside, and allowed youngsters to lead. What a waste of his talent and experience! -----signature----- To LFL/DELREY: NJO = AU NOT STAR WARS!!! ************************************* Hooray to all of you in SOS!! Keep up the good fight!! *************************************
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BartSimpson-SithLord Title: C&G Manager of Dooooooom Registered: Jan '02	Date Posted: 2/10/02 7:46pm Subject: RE: SOS - SON OF SKYWALKER : YOU (THE FANS) ARE MY ONLY HOPE!! SAVE ME...
	As I posted in another thread, Anakin Skywalker was around 45 when he died. Now Luke may not be 45 yet, but he is close to that age. As for his roles in the books, like it or not he will not be the hero of the New Jedi Order. It will probably be Jacen. So Luke is going to take more of a background role as this arc turns toward its conclusion. He has a major role in some upcoming books. ENJOY them while you can, he won't have too big of a spotlight for much longer. Now as I like Luke, it is time for us to see Luke the family man instead of Luke the I'm going to go against all odds not thinking about my friends so I better make it out alive version. Personally I am wondering what will happen if he finds out Jedi are supposed to be celebit because I like the part he is playing. It is time to pass the torch. -----signature----- You said, "It'll take more than that to kill me," right? Then I'll just keep killing you until you die.
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MariahJade2 Title: Former Fan Fiction Archive Editor Registered: Mar '01	Date Posted: 2/10/02 7:47pm Subject: RE: SOS - SON OF SKYWALKER : YOU (THE FANS) ARE MY ONLY HOPE!! SAVE ME... - Date Edited: 2/10/02 7:48pm (1 edits total) Edited By: MariahJade2
	Luke Skywalker has been totally emasculated by the NJO. The have done so little with the time he has been used, that no one here seems to care if he lives or dies. Luke is Star Wars and I would love to see Alston bring back his personality again, but I am not going to hold my breath. He has no real plot line of his own other than to fret, or to be denigrated and put down by just about every other character that speaks. I am sick of the way he is written and I will never forgive them for it. -----signature----- Have a question or suggestion for the Archive? Ask the NEWBS! Thank you Phillies! World Series Champs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7CI39brXvw "Why can't us" Best line of 2008
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Raz927 Registered: Feb '02	Date Posted: 2/10/02 8:32pm Subject: RE: SOS - SON OF SKYWALKER : YOU (THE FANS) ARE MY ONLY HOPE!! SAVE ME...
	Ya know, when I purchase something that says "Star Wars", I am pretty much expecting Luke, Han, Leai and company. Now, it said "The New Jedi Order" underneath the big ole "Star Wars" on the books, but I didn't interpret that to mean Luke wasn't a big part of the books. Now I want my money back. I feel like I bought a box of Lucky Charms cereal, and when I got home and opened it up I found a note that said "Try these Grape Nuts instead!". No, damnit! I bought Lucky Charms and I want my Lucky Charms! I mean seriously, is there a fan of the EU that hasn't seen the movies? So why aren't the movie characters front and center in these stories? I want my money back Delrey. You sold me something labeled Star Wars and it isn't. It seems like the next book is a token Luke book, and then they'll get back to tireless coverage of Jaina and Jacen. The first 8 books they deprived me of Luke and company, mostly to give me coverage of a character they were going to kill in the 9th book!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! I want my money back. Please.
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Raz927 Registered: Feb '02	Date Posted: 2/10/02 8:46pm Subject: RE: SOS - SON OF SKYWALKER : YOU (THE FANS) ARE MY ONLY HOPE!! SAVE ME...
	P.S. and yes he has been portrayed so horribly I'm glad the authors who wrote him didn't write more of him! eee gads. I don't think the people in charge can save Luke. I would imagine they already think they're doing a good job. Or, they wanted to kill Luke, but they don't want the fans to get all angry, so they've been portraying him really, really bad and pushing him into the background, so that when he dies the fans will say "bout time that wuss bit the dust. Since I've been reading the NJO, I can't really remember why I even liked that guy. I mean, everyone knows star wars is all about Lowbacca and Tenel Ka!!!!"
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JediJSolo Registered: Jun '01	Date Posted: 2/10/02 11:58pm Subject: RE: SOS - SON OF SKYWALKER : YOU (THE FANS) ARE MY ONLY HOPE!! SAVE ME...
	Luke, Han and Leia do not make Star Wars. If they did, then we wouldn’t have the prequels at all (considering that none of them are in the first two movies). So why aren't the movie characters front and center in these stories? Because they have been front and center for the past 10,080 Star Wars books and comics! (an exaggeration to emphasize a point) I don’t know about you, but I was starting to get bored with that. The Solo kids were showing a lot of promise, and I wanted to see what they were capable of as young adults. They had been the next generation of Jedi ever since the JAT, and it was time that they took their rightful place as the heirs to this new generation. You sold me something labeled Star Wars and it isn't. Yes it is. Just because you don’t like the next generation of Jedi doesn’t mean that it isn’t Star Wars. Star Wars is a fictional reality that goes through change; just like our reality. If you want to read something from this fictional reality that has more of what you are interested in, I’m sure you will find something. There is plenty of Luke, Leia and Han stuff out there, and I doubt that you have actually read it all. P.S. and yes he has been portrayed so horribly I'm glad the authors who wrote him didn't write more of him! eee gads. How was he portrayed badly? Zahn changed his character so much with his last duology that Luke became a completely different person. The Luke from JAT is nothing like the one from the Zahn duology. I thought that Luke was portrayed very well in the NJO (except for possibly DT and the AOC duologies). The NJO Luke has been accurately portrayed as the slightly older and wiser version of the Luke we got out of the Zahn duology. -----signature----- The Force reflects the life that creates it... Constructive criticism or reviews requested: http://boards.theforce.net/Beyond_the_Saga/b10477/20439765/?3
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sweetheart Registered: Jan '01	Date Posted: 2/11/02 12:47am Subject: RE: SOS - SON OF SKYWALKER : YOU (THE FANS) ARE MY ONLY HOPE!! SAVE ME...
	To me, it's not how little of Luke there's been, but how he's been shown. I used to be a big fan of his, but now I can't stand him. He's shown as being so selfish that unless Mara or Ben are directly involved, he could care less. He never showed any sort of concern over Han's grief over Chewie, or Leia nearly dying. All he seems to want to do is sleep with Mara. He's also become meaner, in Rebirth when Mara insulted Leia, Luke didn't even bother to stand up for her. The Luke from the movies would have defended Leia. -----signature----- Bar Maid at Han's Deli Head Landscaper at Mrs. Annie-Sue's Gardens http://www.hansoloandtheprincess.com http://princess20.proboards2.com
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Justified Registered: Jan '02	Date Posted: 2/11/02 4:01am Subject: RE: SOS - SON OF SKYWALKER : YOU (THE FANS) ARE MY ONLY HOPE!! SAVE ME...
	I've been reading these boards for a while now and I have to say I'm a little shocked by what I've read. Not so much shocked, because people bicker over the smallest things no matter what the topic, but surprising all the same. First off (from what I've seen) apparently there are two different kinds of star wars fans. Many who are true the movies only, and those labelled as EUers, or whatever. That isn't very surprising, but what is, is that the "EUers" have divided themselves into those who appreciate and accept what post GL authors have contributed to star wars, and those who bitch and whine every step of the way. To point out an obvious solution "If you don't like it, don't read it." But we all know that won't happen. As for the character's role's in the NJO series, I don't see what the problem is. All I can think of is that people pick out their favorite character and if that character either dies or isn't as involved as they hope, then its blasphemy and heads should roll. Get over it. Thats the way it goes. If you're bitching about Luke not having an active enough role in the NJO, then why aren't you bitching about how Yoda didn't hop in Luke's X-wing in ESB and kill both Vader and Emperor himself? I'll tell you why, it wasn't his "destiny" It was Luke who was suppose to end the conflict. And he did. Just as its not Luke's destiny to end the Vong conflict. Another thing that seems to escape everyone is that every SW author (aside from GL) are simply fans of the movies who jump on the opportunity to contribute their part. An honor on its own. Don't tell me if you were offered a chance to write a star wars book that would be published for all to read that you wouldn't. While EU may not be considered canon, every story written must be approved by lucas or the appropriate representative. ( not sure how it works ) Character deaths and twists in the plot make the books INTERESTING. How interesting would they be if you and everyone else knew that Luke Skywalker would simply show up, use his lightsaber and beat bad guys? On the "interesting" side note, I think Anakin's death was perfect. Everyone thought he'd be the one to figure it out and defeat the Vong. Well, now he's dead and nobody knows what to do. THAT is interesting. ~ Justified
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leif Registered: Dec '99	Date Posted: 2/11/02 9:43am Subject: RE: SOS - SON OF SKYWALKER : YOU (THE FANS) ARE MY ONLY HOPE!! SAVE ME...
	ill havve to agree, i hated anikins death in SBS... but after reading Dark Journey....i have a new found interest in jaina's character and the path she will take...
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ReaperFett Registered: Dec '99	Date Posted: 2/11/02 10:38am Subject: RE: SOS - SON OF SKYWALKER : YOU (THE FANS) ARE MY ONLY HOPE!! SAVE ME...
	been put so far into the background in the NJO that he wasn't even in the latest book's Dramatis personae Suppose you think the X-Wing novels are rubbish then? Being as they are stories about a few characters, same as DJ -----signature----- http://www.ymdb.com/user_top20_view.asp?usersid=4053 - My top 20 movies. -
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Dewlanna Solo Registered: Oct '99	Date Posted: 2/11/02 11:18am Subject: RE: SOS - SON OF SKYWALKER : YOU (THE FANS) ARE MY ONLY HOPE!! SAVE ME... - Date Edited: 2/11/02 11:25am (2 edits total) Edited By: Dewlanna Solo
	JediJSolo: Luke, Han and Leia do not make Star Wars. If they did, then we wouldn’t have the prequels at all (considering that none of them are in the first two movies. Perhaps that is why I find the prequels (books and movies) less than satisfying. ReaperFett: Suppose you think the X-Wing novels are rubbish then? Being as they are stories about a few characters, same as DJ There is a big difference, Fett, between the X-Wing novels that are just meant to be companion pieces, something to fill the store bookshelves between mainline books, and the New Jedi Order which is the ONLY post-ROTJ SW being written now. Luke Skywalker is the heart and soul of the middle third of the Star Wars Saga. Until GL makes episodes 7,8, and 9, I expect Luke to remain a focal point. RAZ927, great analogy! Have you checked out The NJO Critic's Club? I think you'll find kindred spirits there. -----signature----- Those who will not follow are doomed to lead.
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Jades Fire Registered: Nov '98	Date Posted: 2/11/02 11:46am Subject: RE: SOS - SON OF SKYWALKER : YOU (THE FANS) ARE MY ONLY HOPE!! SAVE ME... - Date Edited: 2/11/02 11:47am (1 edits total) Edited By: Jades Fire
	Hey, you know I'm with you Skydancer! Luke Skywalker has been turned into a clueless, indecisive wimp who hasn't contributed in a meaningful way in a book since Onslaught or Ruin. That isn't very surprising, but what is, is that the "EUers" have divided themselves into those who appreciate and accept what post GL authors have contributed to star wars, and those who bitch and whine every step of the way. It is ludicrious to suggest that EU'ers should stick together as a unified force, and to blindly accept anything and everything that an EU author has contributed to the saga. I appreciate some of what the EU authors have contributed to the post-RotJ EU. I didn't care for about third of Bantam. I don't care for most of the NJO. To point out an obvious solution "If you don't like it, don't read it." But we all know that won't happen. Obvious? Really? How trite. Don't worry, some of us have stopped reading. Or at the very least stopped buying this pablum. As for the character's role's in the NJO series, I don't see what the problem is. All I can think of is that people pick out their favorite character and if that character either dies or isn't as involved as they hope, then its blasphemy and heads should roll. The cover of the novelization of Star Wars is subtitled, "From the Adventures of Luke Skywalker." For many people, Luke Skywalker's tale is Star Wars, and has been for about 20 years. It doesn't mean that Luke has to be in every book, but when the Jedi are involved in a galaxy spanning conflict, one would naturally assume that Luke Skywalker, the greatest living Jedi, would be very active in combating this foe. And one might naturally asssume that Luke, the leader of the Jedi Order at this point, would have something to say about his nephew's death, but nope, you have some people not connected to Anakin by blood relation being the only ones to speak about it. But, oh no, can't let Luke overshadow the others in these books. Get over it. Thats the way it goes. Nice flame. I suggest you take your own advice. People will have complaints. Why do you expect everyone to have the same opinion you do? You don't have to agree with them. If you're bitching about Luke not having an active enough role in the NJO, then why aren't you bitching about how Yoda didn't hop in Luke's X-wing in ESB and kill both Vader and Emperor himself? Considering we don't know what happens in Episodes 2 and 3, and possibly their reasons for not being involved, I think it is a bit of a stretch to be comparing apples to oranges. Besides, Yoda is so small he couldn't see over the dashboard. I'll tell you why, it wasn't his "destiny" It was Luke who was suppose to end the conflict. And he did. Just as its not Luke's destiny to end the Vong conflict. We all read that section in Conquest where Luke told the readers he wasn't going to be the savior. That doesn't excuse his lack of a major role. Han wasn't destined to end the conflict with the Emperor, but that didn't mean he couldn't play a very active role in helping Luke fight. It's not as if I want Luke to end the conflict with the Vong, I just wanted to see shown as being actively involved in the conflict, helping bring about the end of the Vong War, being a major viewpoint character given his status of the Jedi Master of the New Order, and not turning over the responsibility of major missions to teenagers. -----signature----- "Vanity working on a weak head, produces every sort of mischief." -- Jane Austen
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