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Thrawn1786
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2/27/04 4:05pm
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RE: "Shadows of the Empire," by DHC, LucasArts, Bantam, Et. al. [Various, 1996]
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This was the first SW EU book I read, and I simply loved it. The plot was good, I liked all the new characters, and I really wish they had turned it into a movie!(Although a cartoon version wouldn't be so bad)
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3/6/04 4:34pm
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9/10- I thought it was a really good book. The Dash/Han clone thing bugged me at first but I got use to it. This book did a good job of explaining how the characters went from the end of ESB to the beginning of ROTJ.
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kosure
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3/7/04 7:51am
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i agree i with you Thrawn. SotE is deffinetally on eof the best EU i've ever read. A cartoon version would be awesome. Or live action.
Its really good to be able to find out what happens in between the movies. And beacuse there are already really bad guys in place. Theres no need to get into the whole, {evil force user/crazy imperieal officer trying to rebuild the empire/kill the jedi } that seems to be a theme in some of even the best EU. Great book, good dialouge, good char devolopment, intresting story.
I thought the Han clone problem was solved by the fact that he may have died in the end anyway. (i know if you beat the game with so much completion then you find out he escapes. its up to you wether thats right or not)
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9 very good book.
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I liked Dash, I admit too much of the likeness to Han, but I don't like it when you just warm up to the guy, and then he's dead. And besides I can never get enough of the Solo attitude, it zings me. Anyway back to the book, the Emperor was a little to trusting of Xizor. Darth Vader was second to him, and he should of trusted his dark servent. Plus, WHAT WAS WRONG WITH LEIA? She is stronger than any pheramones. Her betrayal of Han was unnessacary. I did enjoy Luke in that book, he usally bores me in the books. Personally I did think it was a good strong story. But I loved Guri, she is the coolest droid by far in the Star Wars Universe. I t's a shame she and Dash are gone.
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I liked:
* The portrayal of the Emperor and Vader. Perry absolutely nailed them. I never got the feeling that Xizor was outsmarting the Emperor - Palpatine was just sitting there, watching Xizor's attempts with mild amusement, just as in RotJ.
* Luke's development. Perry made quite clear how the impatient kid from ESB became the cool Jedi in RotJ.
* Guri. She was really, really cool, and portrayed very nicely.
I disliked:
* I have to agree that Dash Rendar was something of a Solo-copy.
* That Rodian, Greedo's uncle - I think his name was Avaro something. Something that often annoys me is how almost every character in GFFA is somehow related to each other. There are millions, if not billions of Rodians in the galaxy. That they just should happen to bump into Greedo's uncle is corny.
And, on a sidenote, did anyone else get the references in the name "Benedict Vidkun"? For me, that was just too obvious, and it kinda told what kind of character this guy was.
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MrScorpion
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Shadows of the Empire is probably the most hyped book in the whole EU. And I think it is the best. Yeah it is so good. I read it after playing through the video game. It is pretty damn good. Read it
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WWE_jedi
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this was a pretty good book.
it helped me understand more of the conversation between han and leia in EMPIRE STRIKES BACK at Echo base, in the hallway.
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TLONMASTER
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It was the first EU book I read, and I would have to say that it was amazing. It wasn't very deep or anything like some may complain, but it definitely had a pacing similar to the films. I never really laugh from books, but the entire scene with 3PO and R2 flying the Falcon was pure genius.
I thought Xizor was a very well thought out villain, and an interesting obstacle to put before Leia and her relationship with Han.
I would also like to agree with whoever said that a final confrontation between Xizor and Vader would have worked better. I was also expecting this, because I had purchased all the SOTE toys, and I owned that duel package. Big disapointment when that wasn't in the novel.
Also, Dash Rendar isn't necessarily a bad character, but he had no purpose in this novel really. I didn't like the way he was put in just to replace Han for awhile. (Although I did like his nice return in Evolution. . .)
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7/8/04 9:11am
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This was a good book. A good filler book.
However it may have "filled in" a bit much. Did we really need to know how Leia got the bounty hunter outfit and the thermal detonator?
I also did not like how Xizor died. But the end of the book would need to be significantly re-written to change how he died.
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I agree. The way Xizor died was disappointing since he had been such a kick butt throughout the entire book. But the rest was great! I really enjoyed this novel. I think this is what started me turning into an Imperial loyalist. Also the first time I realized the villains can be cooler than the heroes.
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I think if it is a filler a novel, it HAS to be predictable.
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I've been working on example screenplays adapting SOTE to support my EU TV Show layout thread (link in my bio), and going through the novel, game and comic storylines, and going back and forth between them ahs been quite fun. Overall, the story is quite good and most of the characters come across fairly well, though some of Boba Fett's and Vader's dialogue seem a little off, it's not enough to harm the overal portrayal of their characters.
Though Dash is a Han clone (even back in 1996 I felt they shoulda used Kyle Katarn instead), he can be a blast to write since he has that level of cockiness to him thats a few notches above/wilder than Han, which makes him at least slightly distinctive.
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I think this book works for the sole reason that Darth Vader as a character was expanded, and done so brilliantly. Yes the story may be predictable and Xizor isn`t the greatest villain, but the thre or four passages that give us insight into Vader and the way he thinks just adds to the myth. 8/10
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I voted 6. The series was great in that it covered the storyline between TESB and ROTJ, however, I don't think it fully lived up to the potential of its promise.
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