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master_organa
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4/8/05 1:02pm
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RE: "Shadows of the Empire," by DHC, LucasArts, Bantam, Et. al. [Various, 1996]
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The bounty hunter trilogy.
They are awful crap.
Interesting, Xizor seems only to appear in crap.
Actually he has a very supporting role in the third book of the Han Solo trilogy. Which are good.
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Xzilen20
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4/13/05 4:31pm
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I gave it a 4. Sure they explained it away later, but what the hell happened to Piett? I mean that is a HUGE oversight.
I liked when Vader let the guy go, and Luke's transition, but other than that, this book was lacking and over-hyped.
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HauntedLord
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4/21/05 5:01pm
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I'm loving this book.
And the N64 video game is still awesome.
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DarkJediLord
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4/25/05 1:51pm
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It is one of the better EU books I have read and I think it does well to tie ESB and ROTJ together. Dash Rendar is a good character as well as Prince Xizor. Some bits were too predictable though but I think that was my fault for playing the N64 game first before reading the book.
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Dark_Prince
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5/13/05 4:15pm
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9!
The book was great. Dash Rendar sucked, but all other new EU characters were great! I wish they made it into a movie or something. Possibly one of the best SW books I have ever read.
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Zanretsu
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I gave it a 9.
My first EU book, well my first good one. I was exposed to the GoDV series years before I picked this up...
I thought Prince Xizor was an interesting one, and I didn't think his death was so bad. Sure, he's made out to be the third most powerful being in the galaxy, but what ultimately led to his fall was screwing with the second most powerful being in the galaxy.
I like how Steve kept trying to hint at how Leia didn't love Luke like that, how she loved him in some other way. Yeah, whatever you say Perry!
Dialogue was really great and true to Star Wars, especially the Rouge Squadron parts. Great novel!
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dorsk118
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5/15/05 8:50am
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I gave an eight. It was a pretty good Book. It is great when you can see what happened between Episode 5 and Episode 6. Steve Perry is a good writer.
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DarthAJ
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9/10
Perry is a genius by coming up with this huge plot. But the end left me unchanged. But it was cool how we didn't actually SEE Xizor or Guri die. The Virago was some hyped up ship, but in the book it had one scene. I still think Xizor lived though. The Coruscant vibe wasn't in the book at all. You didn't get the feel that this was the heart of the empire. Perry didn't describe his characters or places well either. But thats what the internet is for.
Good book, but overhyped. Still a must read though.
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TheDarkPrince
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I give it a 9 but man do I love this book.
It has everthing a Star Wars book needs.
I just wish the Emperor did more then say "I sense a disturbance in the force" a billion times.
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Darth_Foo
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6/9/05 3:02pm
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gave it an 8
the only thing i didn't like about it was Dash. he really got on my nerves but oh well.
xizor was ok but i doubt he had the emperor fooled as much as he thinks he did.
my fav scene was vader trying to beathe again, that really captured the character he really was.
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This is one of my favorite Star Wars Books of all time. I think it's paced just like the films, so it flows, and holds interest. I also think the time is divided evenly between subplots, so you don't get bored while reading. Over all it's a great book, and it adds to the experience of watching the moives. I give it a 10
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PrinceHector
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I give it a 9. By far the best EU novel I have ever read - it was just quite a nice political drama between Vader and Xizor... well I thought it was anyway. However some of the stuff between Leia and Xizor was quite disturbing
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I felt it needed a better space battle between the Empire and Black Sun in the end. Xizor was an excellent character though.
8/10
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dv909
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With ROTS boosting my appetite for more SW, I finally got around to reading "Shadows of the Empire". I give it a 3. Corny book at best.
The only thing I enjoyed was when the book referenced the actual movie canon, i.e. Luke in Ben's home building the lightsaber, Vader still trying to convince himself that he wasn't Anakin.
I just didn't buy our heroes going off on an entirely different adventure, meeting major players along the way who are dead by the end of the book, in the middle of supposedly trying to resuce Han.
All the characters say well known lines from the movies that just took me right out of the story.
Chewie and 3PO play space chess for the first half of the book.
Lando 'knows' somebody on every planet they go to that owes him a favor, as does Leia on Coruscant.
They lose the Empire in an asteroid field. Again.
Xizor is the most powerful guy in the galaxy under, of course, Palps and DV. He just so happens to have the 'fastest' ship on the planet. He just so happens to have everything. Contacts everywhere. Can have any woman he wants. Such a supposedly important figure in the galaxy yet we've never heard of him in the entire SW story. I mean it's just weak weak weak.
Dash now has the fastest ship in the galaxy. No, he's not like Han. He feels like a 'filler' character.
The Emperor knows 'everything' at all times.
Darth Vader naked. I mean WT*!
All we get of Boba Fett is a glimpse of his ship getting away yet he's on the paperback cover.
If you're gonna bridge ESB with ROTJ, then make it 'relevant' to ROTJ. In hindsight, as I remember how often I groaned while reading this book, I have to say "Shadows of the Empire" was a huge let down. I'm probably just too old to really enjoy it.
I am looking forward to "Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader", however.
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jedi_ethan
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I din't like this book. In fact it was my first read of a EU book and it was quite dissapointing to me.
First of all I tell you that I am spanish and therefore I read the book in spanish language, however, I guess there is no difference at all. (Also I apologize for any mistake in this text due to the fact that english is not my first language).
Well, I think this book, while interesting at some points, is not a great add to the saga. First, the concept from which it starts is absurd. ¿How would the Emperor be so stupid to allow the ambicious leader of the largest criminal organization to be whitness of the conversation in which he talks to Darth Vader about his son, the new powerful enemy of the Empire? When I read this I began to regret having spent my money.
Second, Dash Rendar is a clone of Han Solo, but less interesting. The author even declines to fully describe him and simply says he was like Han Solo. And the character of Xizor is too topical, too.
But the worst of all is the droid-karate-fighting, Guri. I wondered if I was reading a Jackie Chan novel.
And also, I expected to be whitness of the transformation of Luke from a farm-boy into a powerful Jedi, because it's not shown in the movies (he finishes episode 5 as a learner and begins episode 6 as a self-confident Jedi). On the contrary, during almost the entire novel he is just the same boy of episode 5, and then suddenly he realizes he only has to relax to feel the force and become a powerful Jedi in two minutes. Very poor, I must say.
However, after reading Shattered Point I'm beginning to consider Shadows of the Empire quite a good novel (if we compare).
I hope my next EU read will be more satisfying. Maybe Heir to the Empire...
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