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Corran_Fett
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3/26/07 1:04pm
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"The Literature Maybe Not So Social Thread... WITH A little bit more than just a single GUN! (and Spoilers!)" indeed... 
No, pretty fancy collection you got there, Roh. I dig the Mosin-Nagant and the Kar98... I love those carbines!  Good luck with the Springfield, too. 
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dp4m
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3/26/07 1:35pm
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Rohniss reminds me of someone... who could it be...
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s65horsey
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3/26/07 2:36pm
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Geez Roh! I know we talk about guns all the time in the chat but I don't think I ever knew how many you had. I guess it shouldn't surprise me.
Couldn't you change the title to:
"The Literature...oh who are we kidding...the Gun Social Thread."
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Rohniss
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dp4m posted:
Rohniss reminds me of someone... who could it be...
Is that Burt from Tremors? YES !
But alas, I don't own a .50 BMG rifle (LAR Grizzly I believe) so I cant shoot out the engine block of the car (on accident) we were planning on using to get away from the Gravoids.
Additions to the Wish List:
X- More ammo of everything
1- Pre-1964 Winchester Model 70 "Varmint" .30-06, with McMillan synthetic stock and Simmons 3-9x scope (the Carlos Hathcock rifle)
1- something that requires an BATFE Form 4 (the tax/permit that allows you to purchase "evil" (full auto, silenced, short barreled, etc.))
1- something classified as a "destructive device" (the "heavy weapons" <3 anti-tank rifles)
1- Dragonskin (new type of body armor)
X- more WWI-WWII-Korea knicknacks and relics, pinups, bayonets, misc equipment. general military stuff of that era.
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J_K_DART
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Note to self: Rohniss is a very unwise person to disagree with... [face_blink] 
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Rohniss
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3/27/07 1:51pm
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J_K_DART posted:
Note to self: Rohniss is a very unwise person to disagree with... [face_blink]
Hey, feel free to disagree. you might even survive it 
Yeah anyways, getting paid on Friday.. hmm think I'll just buy a case of .30-06 on Enbloc Clips (for the Garand) and a case of 7.62x39, and about 6 more magazines.. maybe some 9mm and mags for the Glock.. slow week
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Rohniss posted:
1- something that requires an BATFE Form 4 (the tax/permit that allows you to purchase "evil" (full auto, silenced, short barreled, etc.))
Wow, aren't those pretty expensive?
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Rohniss
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3/27/07 5:19pm
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R64 posted:
Wow, aren't those pretty expensive?
Sort of, you see, Manufacture of Machineguns (anything that fires more than one bullet with one pull of the trigger) was made illegal in 1986, and those existing previous to then were required to be registered and serialized (if not already). Therefore pre-86 (legal) machineguns are at a premium since there is high demand and a limited supply. Those who own them dont want to sell, so you have to wait for someone to die and their collection be sold off before they reenter distribution channels, this doesn't account for those confiscated or destroyed. So, small supply Large Demand, high cost. For example a "Sten Gun" was mass produced in WWII and cost less than 5 dollars to produce, now they sale for approximately 2,500 (as do some other cheap machinepistols and submachineguns). other guns command hefty premiums, such as the BAR, Thompson, M-14 (real ones, not reproductions), and tripod mounted weapons (Ma Duce, MG-42 et al) all go for in the 20,000+ range. depending on condition and if they were "war babies" (issued in WWII is a hefty premium as well) plus museums frequently snap up rare or desirable weapons (my Gewehr 98 (WWI, bolt action) was bought by a museum here in Birmingham) and they have much more disposable income than me, driving up prices further.
Now, Silencers, are still legal to produce, and cost approximately 500 for the item (including paperwork) depending on caliber, and dB reduction (how much more silent does it become).
Short Barreled rifles are still legal to manufacture (and possess) as long as you pay the tax, and retail just over the cost of a non-SBR variant.
Destructive Devices and Any other Weapon are weird and I don't fully understand the laws regarding them. I THINK DD's are illegal to produce, but their still available probably the same way as Machineguns (pre-1986 manufacturer) AOW's are a catch all classification for stuff that doesnt fall neatly into any other category, I THINK flame throwers and pistols that fire rifle cartridges fit in here.
The BATF has lots of complex definitions to discourage people from legally trying to obtain any of the regulated weapons, but its not so hard to do, you simply write them for a copy of BATFE Form 4, you check off what you want to pay the tax on (serial number and what they classify it as) pay the tax, usually 200.00 but AOW's are 5.00 I believe. you send it in. theres a lengthy background investigation (beyond what goes on when you purchase a normal gun) and if you become the registered owner of the weapon or item you applied for, if denied you cannot purchase the item.
So basically theres a few steps:
0) Request a copy of BATFE form 4, make copies, practice filling it out correctly
1) Find something you want to buy
2) Pay for the owner to hold it until paperwork is complete (layaway)
3) Fill out paperwork CAREFULLY (the ATF is anal like the IRS)
3b) Have CLEO sign off on paperwork, bribery works well (contribute to your sheriffs reelection campaign)
4) Send paperwork, certified mail
5) Wait
6) Wait some more
7) Continue waiting
8) Receive approval
9) finish purchase
also the paperwork is a long long long long process, several pages, you CLEO (chief law enforcement officer) must sign off on your paperwork before you send it to the BATF. Sheriffs, Prosecutors, Chiefs of Police can sign.. a few others.
I'm sure I've omitted a few steps, and stuff needs clarification, but I've probably already bored everyone to tears at this point.
But its a long tedious process that takes a month at best and 3-5 at worst.
DP4M:
Could I get a Burt Icon added for me in the list
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ARC-77
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Hey, all, thought I'd come in and post on the new board. I completely missed the announcement for this, thought the site had gone screwy or something when this came up instead of the old Lit board 
Rohniss: That's a very impressive collection. I envy you. Unfortunately, I'm jobless and too young. 
You might like this site, though. There's all kinds of nice stuff there you might like.
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3/27/07 6:33pm
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Ahh Impactguns, I window shop there from time to time (like when late, im out of gas, or its raining and I cant make it to a local dealer), but their prices are a little high compared to dealers in my area. (plus add 25.00 for dealer transfer). Though I do frequent their Class 3 section a lot I usually frequent the manufacturer websites (for weapons), and order parts and accessories from CDNN Investments, the Sportsmans Guide, Cheaper than Dirt, or Midway USA.
The only place I ordered Guns online from was from the DCM/CMP
My favorite review/opinion websites are:
Stephen A. Camp's Site
The Quinn's Site
Glock Forums/General Guns (Glocktalk)
ARFCOM and its sister site AK47.net
I frequent some other places too.
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s65horsey posted:
Rohniss posted:
Proposed new name: "Its just a flesh wound... the Lit Forum Social thread"
I second that one!
And I third it.
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3/27/07 7:28pm
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I like this title better. Anyone disagree?
Q_M: I dunno should I buy a Glock 17, CZ-75 SAO, or Browning Hi-Power this time (shopping for a large frame 9mm thats NOT DA/SA transition)
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Quiet_Mandalorian posted:
s65horsey posted:
Rohniss posted:
Proposed new name: "Its just a flesh wound... the Lit Forum Social thread"
I second that one!
And I third it.
I'll just fourth it, then!
C'mon, let's change it already...  
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3/28/07 5:40am
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Rohniss posted:
I like this title better. Anyone disagree?
Q_M: I dunno should I buy a Glock 17, CZ-75 SAO, or Browning Hi-Power this time (shopping for a large frame 9mm thats NOT DA/SA transition)
Oh, Glock 17 definitely.
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Date Posted:
3/28/07 6:54am
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Corran_Fett posted:
Quiet_Mandalorian posted:
s65horsey posted:
[quote=Rohniss]
Proposed new name: "Its just a flesh wound... the Lit Forum Social thread"
I second that one!
And I third it.
I'll just fourth it, then!
C'mon, let's change it already... [/quote]
Make it a fifth!
*chuckles*
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