Author Topic: Why all the Clone Wars Cartoon Backlash?
Knight-Ander 
Registered: Jul '02
39909_Jack Sparrow
Date Posted: 3/13/03 1:53pm Subject: RE: Why all the Clone Wars Cartoon Backlash?
I'm with R2-MeToo's original rant.

I turn 32 this summer and I remember the days of always wanting more Star Wars in whatever form. Sure, if I get a chance to see the Holiday Special again for the first time since it originally aired, I'd probably pass it up, but back then it was exciting just to see more of Luke Skywalker and the gang. I can't tell you how far my eyeballs bulged out of their sockets upon first seeing Heir to the Empire on the bookstore shelves. Having come to terms with the fact that Star Wars may never return (Marvel had cancel the comic book series by then), I loved seeing it return in any form! Heck, the use of live-action actors in the computer game Dark Forces: Jedi Knight put a $#!+-eating grin on my face that I had trouble wiping off.

With the coming of Episode I, I had heard some bad things about it, and eventually agreed with a little of those bad things (I'm a Jar-Jar lover, BTW), but after seeing it for the first time, I let out a long sigh, saying, "Finally, I'm home again."

Now, with SW coming to the small screen, I'm thrilled once again. I wasn't one for the Ewok and Droid cartoons (I was at the age where waking up Saturday mornings to watch cartoons was not on my body's high priority list), but these cartoons (albeit obscenely short cartoons) I will hunt down to watch. Years ago, a friend at work turned me on to Dexter's Lab, and then when I discovered Samurai Jack, I couldn't be more please for the future of animation today.

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mrmoto 
Registered: Jan '02
15576_Anakin
Date Posted: 3/17/03 9:54am Subject: RE: Why all the Clone Wars Cartoon Backlash?
I just wanted to voice a positive opinion. I think star wars has always gone for the edge, the movies and even some of the subject matter in the books has pushed the envelope of what the SW world represents. I think the cartoon being only 2-3 minutes is along that approach, it will certainly leave you wanting more, which is better than being saturated with a half hour long bland cartoon. I also think that the Samurai Jack cartoon is pretty fresh. When I first heard about the cartoon I was excited to see what stories they would tell, I think it is interesting that the gap between EP II and EP III, is a real time 3 years. The filler inbetween, with books, games, cartoons, etc. is all part of giving the fans something in the mean time, I actually think it is kind of a gift ot the fans, if you will. Anyway I wanted to express a positive opinion because someone mentioned that there was very little voice on the up side. Lets see what happens, after all it hasn't even been released yet and at 3 min at least if you don't like it you don't have to spend too much time hating it. PEACE IN THESE TIMES

 

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StitchExperiment626 
Registered: Feb '03
14782_Yoda
Date Posted: 3/18/03 9:23pm Subject: RE: Why all the Clone Wars Cartoon Backlash?
Samurai Jack is ok, but DarthSapient is right, star wars should be done better

 

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Die_Jedi_Dogs 
Registered: Jun '02
23576_Darth Vader
Date Posted: 3/26/03 3:41pm Subject: RE: Why all the Clone Wars Cartoon Backlash?
I find that Samurai Jack is probably the best show on Cartoon Network. It has a very interesting plot line and it also has some emotion to go with it. I mean...he fails in every attempt to get home he's so frustrated yet every few episodes the ending is rather happy. I believe that Tartakofsky(?) or whatever will do an excelent job with Clone Wars. I am somewhat disappointed about the length..I would prefer a real season but you gotta do what you gotta do right? Tartakofsky is probably the busiest person in the Cartoon buisness considering all the show's he has his hands in. But anyway enough with this negativity about the show! It will be great and I can't wait until it comes out.

 

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weezer 
Registered: May '01
43869_Midbie
Date Posted: 3/27/03 12:14pm Subject: RE: Why all the Clone Wars Cartoon Backlash?
Bret Ratner seems to agree with the Samurai Jack SW connection. Here is a quote from him on why he is considering Samurai Jack as his next project.

Ratner added that Samurai Jack appeals to him because of a mythology that rivals that of the most popular SF universes. "I love things like Star Wars that have history and mythology and storytelling," Ratner said. "It's just a great character."

 

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Forcebewitya 
Registered: Jun '02
44290_Boba Fett - Holiday Special
Date Posted: 3/27/03 2:19pm Subject: RE: Why all the Clone Wars Cartoon Backlash?
"(Thats why I like Nintendo, less games, better games)"

TOTALLY AGREE!, and I get what your saying about the CW cartoons.

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YodasGroove 
Registered: Jan '03
6189_Yoda
Date Posted: 3/29/03 9:27am Subject: RE: Why all the Clone Wars Cartoon Backlash?
I am looking forward to it and also looking forward to see in what format George Lucas is going to do them.

I just saw AniMatrix, the 11 minute trailer in front of that new DreamCatcher movie. If they do it in that type of format or even better I think it will be well done. By 2005, the animation I'm sure will look even better.

Also if they go the Japanimation route, I think it will turn out well too. Whatever route he chooses, I'm sure it will be excellent, because GL's attention to detail is always phenominal.

 

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Forcebewitya 
Registered: Jun '02
44290_Boba Fett - Holiday Special
Date Posted: 3/29/03 5:53pm Subject: RE: Why all the Clone Wars Cartoon Backlash?
GL has already chose the animation style, it is that of the TV show Samuri Jack.

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Porkins_Dietician 
Registered: Jan '02
6324_Porkins
Date Posted: 4/3/03 4:39pm Subject: RE: Why all the Clone Wars Cartoon Backlash?
In the end...the Clone Wars Cartoon could be ALOT better. ALOT.

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Funny, I didn't know that anyone had seen them yet. You are telling everyone that saying something is great "just because its star wars" is moronic but what seems even dumber than that is the fact that you are judging something you have yet to even expirience. Now that is moronic.

 

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weezer 
Registered: May '01
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Date Posted: 4/3/03 8:25pm Subject: RE: Why all the Clone Wars Cartoon Backlash?
Hmm...

I highly recomend that you stay away from the 3SA wink

 

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Porkins_Dietician 
Registered: Jan '02
6324_Porkins
Date Posted: 4/5/03 3:45pm Subject: RE: Why all the Clone Wars Cartoon Backlash?
been there wink , however the person I was quoting obviously had yet to see them basing thier facts on past work of the artists involved in this project.

 

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ratmankey 
Registered: Feb '02
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Date Posted: 4/6/03 3:07pm Subject: RE: Why all the Clone Wars Cartoon Backlash?
Personally, I can't wait for the Clone Wars cartoon. Samurai Jack is the best American-made cartoon I have ever seen, and I can't think of any American with a better eye for the possibilities of animation.

Stop worrying.

 

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Eugene_Meltsner_AIO 
Registered: Sep '02
8092_Young Indy
Date Posted: 4/6/03 4:01pm Subject: RE: Why all the Clone Wars Cartoon Backlash?
All I knew about the Clone Wars cartoon was that it was going to be on CT. Now I know that it's going to be done in Samurai Jack style by the guy who made that and Dexter's Laboratory and that it will be a piece of three minutes in between some cartoons! What were the people who made these decisions ??? I can see it now: "Padme, get me my saber, I must defend my la-bor-a-tor-ee!" Cut to Anakin staring at the Confederate droids for two of the three minutes, then jumping up in the air three times in three screens, then cut to the credits. See ya next week, folks, if you can make it through the rest of the crap we're putting out!
This really turns me off. The only thing that might make me watch it is just to see how bad it is for the first, um...what would you call it, first particle of the "show." What was so bad about the Batman and Superman animated series? Couldn't they at least try to contact the makers of those shows? And like we're really gonna miss a rerun of The Powerpuff s that badly. You'd think they could spare a half hour of. In conclusion, I ask again, what were they ?

 

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YodaJeff 
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Registered: Oct '01
6617_Yoda
Date Posted: 4/6/03 5:32pm Subject: RE: Why all the Clone Wars Cartoon Backlash?
I like how you're already complaining about a show that you haven't even seen yet.

There is no doubt now what your opinion of it will be. If you went in without any preconcieved notions, who knows, you just might have liked it.

 

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Eugene_Meltsner_AIO 
Registered: Sep '02
8092_Young Indy
Date Posted: 4/17/03 5:41pm Subject: RE: Why all the Clone Wars Cartoon Backlash?
I'm not saying I won't attempt to filter through the rest of the CN junk to check it out, and I may actually turn out liking it, but it doesn't look good. All I'm saying is that the known factors aren't making the show sound very alluring. But I will try to catch it.

 

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