Author Topic: **Official Clone Wars 3D Animated Series thread** (possible spoilers)
snap-hiss 
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Date Posted: 4/1 6:56am Subject: RE: **Official Clone Wars 3D Animated Series thread** (possible spoilers)
Is there a date set for the pilot hitting theaters?

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Date Posted: 4/2 6:41am Subject: RE: **Official Clone Wars 3D Animated Series thread** (possible spoilers)
DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR posted:
How many episodes did they make for the first season? Did they ever release an amount?


I thought I had read somewhere that it was about 22, but I'm not sure.

 

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Date Posted: 4/2 10:32am Subject: RE: **Official Clone Wars 3D Animated Series thread** (possible spoilers)
I must say I have eagerly anticipated this show, much more so than even the live action series, but I've recently read something that has caused me a bit of worry. A quote from an interview with George as posted on StarWars.com 3/17/2008:


George Lucas posted:
"...some of the episodes are stand-alone and some are two, some are three, some are four, and there's no cliffhangers. It's not like the current vogue of "24" and "The Wire" and stuff where you actually have to watch the entire series in order to understand what's going on. This is an old-fashioned episodic show."


He makes it sound like there will be no ongoing plot or storyline. I understand that with such a broad spectrum of material like the Clone Wars there is unlimited opportunity for small sub stories, but I would hope there would be some semblance of a unifying main story for our main characters. It doesn't say much for the quality of a show's writing if the viewer is able to pick up half way into a season and follow everything happening on screen.

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GARTH_MAUL 
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Date Posted: 4/2 10:53am Subject: RE: **Official Clone Wars 3D Animated Series thread** (possible spoilers)
snap-hiss posted:
I must say I have eagerly anticipated this show, much more so than even the live action series, but I've recently read something that has caused me a bit of worry. A quote from an interview with George as posted on StarWars.com 3/17/2008:


George Lucas posted:
"...some of the episodes are stand-alone and some are two, some are three, some are four, and there's no cliffhangers. It's not like the current vogue of "24" and "The Wire" and stuff where you actually have to watch the entire series in order to understand what's going on. This is an old-fashioned episodic show."


He makes it sound like there will be no ongoing plot or storyline. I understand that with such a broad spectrum of material like the Clone Wars there is unlimited opportunity for small sub stories, but I would hope there would be some semblance of a unifying main story for our main characters. It doesn't say much for the quality of a show's writing if the viewer is able to pick up half way into a season and follow everything happening on screen.

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Yeah, but keep in mind the ongoing plot IS The Clone Wars. I think Lucas is assuming that the average person will generally know what is going on. The unifying main story is that Palpatine/Sidious is trying to take over the galaxy with Dooku, Ventress, Durge(?) and Grievous, Anakin is learning to be a Jedi and is separated from Padme, Kenobi is dealing with Anakin, and the Jedi Council is trying to figure out what the heck is going on.

I get tired of shows where you have to watch every single episode to know what's going on.

In fact, in the last few years, The X-Files stand-alone episodes were usually better than the conspiracy theory stuff.

 

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Date Posted: 4/2 11:19am Subject: RE: **Official Clone Wars 3D Animated Series thread** (possible spoilers)
GARTH_MAUL posted:
snap-hiss posted:
I must say I have eagerly anticipated this show, much more so than even the live action series, but I've recently read something that has caused me a bit of worry. A quote from an interview with George as posted on StarWars.com 3/17/2008:


George Lucas posted:
"...some of the episodes are stand-alone and some are two, some are three, some are four, and there's no cliffhangers. It's not like the current vogue of "24" and "The Wire" and stuff where you actually have to watch the entire series in order to understand what's going on. This is an old-fashioned episodic show."


He makes it sound like there will be no ongoing plot or storyline. I understand that with such a broad spectrum of material like the Clone Wars there is unlimited opportunity for small sub stories, but I would hope there would be some semblance of a unifying main story for our main characters. It doesn't say much for the quality of a show's writing if the viewer is able to pick up half way into a season and follow everything happening on screen.

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Yeah, but keep in mind the ongoing plot IS The Clone Wars. I think Lucas is assuming that the average person will generally know what is going on. The unifying main story is that Palpatine/Sidious is trying to take over the galaxy with Dooku, Ventress, Durge(?) and Grievous, Anakin is learning to be a Jedi and is separated from Padme, Kenobi is dealing with Anakin, and the Jedi Council is trying to figure out what the heck is going on.

I get tired of shows where you have to watch every single episode to know what's going on.


That is exactly what I'm talking about. There must be ongoing storylines showing how Sidious is manipulating the Senate, Dooku building the CIS, Anakin's conflict with Obi Wan, Anakin and Padme ect ect. In order to make a show like he is describing in which the viewer can pick up anywhere in the series and not miss a beat a complete lack of story depth is required. The argument that the writers can assume that the viewers already know the story is to say that they are bringing nothing new to the table. If this show is going to be a rehash of old material then what is the point?

Coming back to center a bit, honestly I'm not that worried about the show and I still think it will be great. I just would hate to see what could be an amazing show end up just being "good" due to over simplification and lack of an underlying storyline.

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GARTH_MAUL 
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Date Posted: 4/2 11:28am Subject: RE: **Official Clone Wars 3D Animated Series thread** (possible spoilers)
snap-hiss posted:


Coming back to center a bit, honestly I'm not that worried about the show and I still think it will be great. I just would hate to see what could be an amazing show end up just being "good" due to over simplification and lack of an underlying storyline.

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Oh, I agree. I'm quite interested to see if they jump around chronologically, or if it's going to be a generally-straight linear progression towards ROTS.

 

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Date Posted: 4/2 11:29am Subject: RE: **Official Clone Wars 3D Animated Series thread** (possible spoilers)
Honestly I'm kind of glad about that. I don't want some sort of super serialized show like Lost or BSG where if you miss an episode, you'll have to wait until the season comes out on DVD. I just don't see that working for an animated show with a wide audience.

 

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Date Posted: 4/2 11:31am Subject: RE: **Official Clone Wars 3D Animated Series thread** (possible spoilers)
GARTH_MAUL posted:
snap-hiss posted:


Coming back to center a bit, honestly I'm not that worried about the show and I still think it will be great. I just would hate to see what could be an amazing show end up just being "good" due to over simplification and lack of an underlying storyline.

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Oh, I agree. I'm quite interested to see if they jump around chronologically, or if it's going to be a generally-straight linear progression towards ROTS.


That is an excellent point that I hadn't thought of. If they plan a linear timeline the writers will all but need to know how long the show will be on the air, as they will need to outline how quickly to progress. Interesting.

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Date Posted: 4/2 1:44pm Subject: RE: **Official Clone Wars 3D Animated Series thread** (possible spoilers)
Here's something of interest from Randy over on DHC's boards, regarding an upcoming CW3D comic series:

Right now, the monthly Clone Wars comic series is scheduled for a six-issue run. The lead stories will be written by Henry Gilroy (who was the head writer on the first season of the TV show), with back-up stories by some of the artists who are working on the show (Kilian Plunkett, director David Filoni, etc.). In other words, it's gonna be cool.

With that level of talent involved, makes one wonder if any crossover elements will be introduced in one or the other.

 

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Date Posted: 4/2 2:05pm Subject: RE: **Official Clone Wars 3D Animated Series thread** (possible spoilers)
Has the running time of the pilot been announced? Will it be feature length?

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Date Posted: 4/2 2:48pm Subject: RE: **Official Clone Wars 3D Animated Series thread** (possible spoilers)
We've been hearing it's the first 3-4 episodes (though it seems we're hearing "3" more often than "4"), so it'll be a little under (factoring out commercials) an hour & an a half to a little under 2 hours in runtime, depending on how many episodes long it is.

 

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Date Posted: 4/2 6:00pm Subject: RE: **Official Clone Wars 3D Animated Series thread** (possible spoilers)
The2ndQuest posted:
We've been hearing it's the first 3-4 episodes (though it seems we're hearing "3" more often than "4"), so it'll be a little under (factoring out commercials) an hour & an a half to a little under 2 hours in runtime, depending on how many episodes long it is.
But George also had them go back and add a more theatrical opening to the film, so we don't know exactly how much longer that will make it.

 

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Date Posted: 4/2 6:01pm Subject: RE: **Official Clone Wars 3D Animated Series thread** (possible spoilers)
hmm, my thoughts of the trailer. 1, glad to see Ms. S.P. is back. Should be intrseting to see how Anikain reacts to the woman that gave him his scare. Though looks like they changed voices. Sounds like what's Cree Summer from a diffent world. She was the priness in Alantis too. It might not be her, but sounds like her voice. She seems to do a lotr of animated stuff. 2, the graphics look pretty good. Then again can't see Lukus film using bad ones.

3. I'm hoping Camander Cody and the high ranking Clone troupers get more archs. The more his friendship with Ben & Anikain is built the more shocking Order 66 will look in retrospect. He was one of my fav charcters of the non main ones. I never was much of a Bobba fan or Jango for that matter, byut this clones personlity was diffrent enough he worked as a charcter for me.

4. As for Dooku. I just look fowrd to see what they do with him. I

It should be a good cartoon. I'm looking forward to watching it.

 

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Date Posted: 4/2 6:16pm Subject: RE: **Official Clone Wars 3D Animated Series thread** (possible spoilers)
Jango_Fettish posted:
The2ndQuest posted:
We've been hearing it's the first 3-4 episodes (though it seems we're hearing "3" more often than "4"), so it'll be a little under (factoring out commercials) an hour & an a half to a little under 2 hours in runtime, depending on how many episodes long it is.
But George also had them go back and add a more theatrical opening to the film, so we don't know exactly how much longer that will make it.


I can't imagine it'll be longer than the "lost commercial time" amounts to (figure an average 30-minute Tv program has about 7-8 minutes of commercials), which would be between 21-32 minutes, so it's still gonna end up in that ballpark figure.

 

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Date Posted: 4/2 9:10pm Subject: RE: **Official Clone Wars 3D Animated Series thread** (possible spoilers)
Apparently Bender's Big Score, which was released in DVD feature-length format, was divided up into 4 separate episodes for the Cartoon Network.

They had to cut some of it out.

I'm trying to decide how different I want the theatrical release of The Clone Wars to be from the televised first 3/4 episodes....as long as we get both on DVD, I'll be happy.

Also, let's talk titles. I'm guessing for the theatrical release, they'll probably do something similar to "Pirates of the Caribbean: __________". I doubt they'll just call it "SW:The Clone Wars", because they don't want people to get confused with Attack of the Clones.

I think we'll see something like Clone Wars: Genesis or something. I dunno, I'm never good at names.

 

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