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Obi-Chron
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The Star Trek series did the opposite of StarWars -- went TV to movies. After the demise of the original show and following the success of the initial Trek movies, Roddenberry started The Next Generation TV show in the late 80s. He kept the original going into TNG with 'The Final Frontier' in 1989, then TNG took over in the movie franchise too. Meanwhile, Roddenberry transitioned the TV market to Deep Space Nine, Voyager and then Enterprise -- five overall TV series as variations of a common theme.
Lucas has this potential with SW. He can do the 'tweener' live action series, consider pre-prequel movies or the long wished for 7-9, letting others write and direct with Skywalker Ranch supervision, then run other TV series after a time. I emphasize he 'could' do this. Star Wars is now ridiculously fertile ground.
I don't even think GL knows entirely what he wants to do in the long run at this point. Maybe he is reading these boards from time-to-time to come up with some of his ideas, or perhaps the candidate writers are doing so. That way 'the great flanneled one' makes sure he gives the fans exactly what they want.
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marc_craigwb
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small vs big screen in this day and age seems silly,of course,watching rots in the cinema is the best way to experience it,but in age of plasma tvs,hdtv and cinema surround,the home cinema experience can more than cope with sw-if lost,24,battlestar g. etc can pull it off,surely sw can
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robo_obi
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i've been thinking about the live action show over the last couple of days...
in my opinion if it is to suceed with any audience other than star wars fans i think it needs to try and depart from the overall style of the movies...make it unique unto itself....
if we could get a mid-trilogies series based upon either normal human (or alien) characters that doesn't necessarily have all the glitz flash and bang of the movies, but instead has some sort of emotional, gritty realism to it, i think it could work.
we'd need actual characters, ones we could really get emotionally invested in...not just random jedi getting killed...and as far as realism i mean this in regards to getting as much realism in the star wars universe as is possible...lol...
i think doing it between trilogies would be a good move...allows them to use the 'used-future' look.....
the overall look and feel of the show would need to be darker and more moody, more dramatic....and probably moving away from the fun side of things that some of the movies have....
ok...so i'm rambling now....but in my opinion for this show to be a success it needs the following:
- dark, moody, gritty realism in the SW universe
- real, believable characters that people (other than star wars fans) can get emotionally invested in
- and the most important thing above all else...it needs a bloody good story...it can have all the characters and moodiness and realism it wants, but if the story isn't there it'll fall apart....i hope george gets a good writing team together...because this is where the show needs to shine....
in closing, I'm personally very excited about this project, partially because I live in Oz and see this as a possible future employment opporunity...lol....i think big....100 eps equals for me, 4 25 episode seasons, meaning we'll have new star wars for many years more...
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Obi-Chron
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^^^
Indeed, Robo, any successful TV drama series needs character stability in order to suceed. Most shows that have endured 100 or more episodes have had all the key characteristics that you mention.
I immediately think of the TV version of 'Highlander.' That show had one immortal swordsman who dueled opponents week-after-week, with recurring roles by important secondary characters. While many were killed off, the series character star Duncan MacLeod always endured. This recipe loosely mirrors the old western gun slinger TV shows -- Paladin comes to mind here. X-Files is another show that followed two primary characters while inserting recurring secondary roles periodically. The key characters always survive -- even the 'abducted' Fox Mulder lived on in abstentia during the last season of X-files.
So no matter the new SW characters profiled, one-to-two (or a few more) recurring individuals must be developed in season one and onward to bring the core audience back. But fresh roles need to develop mid-stream to keep the show interesting and lure new viewers.
I envision the premier having at least one cameo from a primary PT character in order to draw established SW fans to the small screen version. This tactic will likely also be employed during sweeps weeks and in season finales as well as subsequent season premiers.
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Jedipete33
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100 episodes seems like an awful lot. Wouldn't it make more sense to produce a 3 part mini series first to see how it does and doesn't work. And to see the publics reaction.
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RevantheJediMaster
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The TV Series will probably only reach 100 episodes if it is successful.
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robo_obi
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yeh its probly in the school of thought of
"lets plan to do 100 episodes....if we can stick out those 100 episodes....then we might do some more"
and i don't know if its the case with anyone here but alot of people i know have read the 100 episodes thing and thought that they would all be done in one hit...which is obviously not the case...as i said before 4 25 episode seasons is the most probable scenario....
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Long time fan and a avid poster from a a time long, long ago.
When the Ep. 3 dvd was released I was ready to let the galaxy go but after seeing this recent interview with McC I have to say I am anxious once again (Like how Empire left me feeling in 80 and the Thrawn trilogy in the early 90's). It seems Lucas' main plan is to move the whole thing into a new arena and by that I mean media arena. That whole market is changing as we speak what with the onslaught of HD technology. In a few years (if we don't end up up killing each other off) the way we view entertainment right now will be totally different. McCallum was just guesstimating on the iPod reference because he knows that it is relatively new and in a few years it will be totally different. Star Wars has always been about technical advances and with the coupling of good writing it may just become something that even the most avid ravenous fans never dreamt up.
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anakindbud posted:
Long time fan and a avid poster from a a time long, long ago.
When the Ep. 3 dvd was released I was ready to let the galaxy go but after seeing this recent interview with McC I have to say I am anxious once again (Like how Empire left me feeling in 80 and the Thrawn trilogy in the early 90's). It seems Lucas' main plan is to move the whole thing into a new arena and by that I mean media arena. That whole market is changing as we speak what with the onslaught of HD technology. In a few years (if we don't end up up killing each other off) the way we view entertainment right now will be totally different. McCallum was just guesstimating on the iPod reference because he knows that it is relatively new and in a few years it will be totally different. Star Wars has always been about technical advances and with the coupling of good writing it may just become something that even the most avid ravenous fans never dreamt up.
Very good points anakinbud!
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DARTHJOSEPH posted:
My biggest concern is that Rick McC said it may not air on TV at all! I will not down load shows from itunes and play on my ipod or computer...so far the shows released that way (i.e. Lost) looks like crap! I want it in HD on TV weekly!
No reason to be worried! Even if it won't be shown on TV, it will certainly be released on DVD (HD or BluRay as well)! 
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DARTHJOSEPH posted:
My biggest concern is that Rick McC said it may not air on TV at all! I will not down load shows from itunes and play on my ipod or computer...so far the shows released that way (i.e. Lost) looks like crap! I want it in HD on TV weekly!
On the other hand McC also said that the Live action show would be dark and intense, and that's good news IMO.
Besides it is still in the planing stages so anything can happen between now and the release.
Btw.
As long as it comes out on DVD sometime I am perfectly happy. I live in Denmark anyways and there is next to no chance that the show would air in my country anyways so...
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Alanikan posted:
I know ya'll will start throwing Ewok spears at me for this...but "IMO" is a powerfull ally !
Although I have all the faith in the world in GL (I'll defend his decisions until I die), I just don't have a good feeling about this new series.
To me it seems that live-action Star Wars belongs on the BIG-screen. Having it on TV seems to diminish it. It kind of falls into the same bunch of sci-fi shows that the Sci-fi channel runs all the time endlessly.
I think the best way to present this era of the SW universe is to animate it Clone Wars style. This type of presentation makes it unique, interesting, and damn fun to watch on TV.
Hopefully I'll be proven wrong...we shall see.
It'll be weird to see it on anything but the big screen, but my faith lies with Mr.Lucas, i've never doubted him, I only expect the best from him, as we all do.
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First, as my initial posting....hi to all.
I agree with most people that it's too early to tell what may/may not happen. Let's also not forget there has always been a certain level of cornball humor involved. We'd need actors that can pull off both intense drama and cornall/slapstick humor. There's endless possibilities of what to portray for the ~19yrs of the "Dark Times." There's some darn good film makers out there doing fan films and there's a few i've seen that could possibly take place in between RotS and ANH.
If we "average" fan film makers (hats off to all of you...i can barely role play :P) can make an intriguing story that my take place in this time frame, why can't GL and Co do the same. Even if he launches and steps back, i have full confidence that he won't leave things in the hands of a boob.
I personally (as well as my 9 y/o son who is uber SW geeked now...i swear i had no influence on this  ) am excited about this. I liked Firefly when it was on (*dodges flames*)...was the closest thing to a fresh Sci-Fi series on TV. This was something i could get into w/out any background or pre-existing "likes" to the genre and/or story. A SW series, has my full attention, like many of you, because of ours and the public's familiarity with it. This may be detrimental due to it being so widespread in popularity. If the series does launch, not only will it propogate quickly throughout the US TV land...but internationally as well. I have no doubts that if it lands on a network that is international/has international affiliates, then even if it tanks here, it will still go strong overseas, just like 80s Heavy Metal is still doing.
In closing, the network debate is still open and the heads will hash that out...but lets also not forget that the movies were done by 20th Century Fox. It's possible that Fox may have some sort of wierd broadcasting rights. The CW mini-series, being animated, was an easy home on Cartoon Network, but live action stuff....who knows.
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I did have a bad feeling about it.
But in the last couple of weeks the bad feeling has gone. I've found myself with a real appetite for more Star Wars, and the interviews with McCallum have made me realise this could be great.
100 hour long episodes - that's a hell of a lot more Star Wars to come! 
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Funny thing, I've been thinking about the proposed live action series all day today (even during work), heck pretty much EVER SINCE IT WAS ANNOUNCED, BECAUSE IM A GEEK AND I HAVE NO LIFE. :P
I am very excited, but of course, I want this series to be darn good! A possible scenario I'd like to see is the Jedis that survived the Purge. If any of you have read (possible spoilers) Dark Lord: Rise of Darth Vader you'll know that some of the Jedi that survived opted to blend themselves into regular citizen life (even with the intent of slowly ruining the empire from within). They agreed to surrender their powers, their lightsabers, to never contact each other again. But they shall never abandon the Force (because the "Force will never die").
This would provide an excellent ground for storytelling. The Jedis will not be acting like undestructible heroes this time, quite the contrary, they will have to tone things down for the sake of survival. Say, pick three of these surviving Jedis (there you have your lead characters), and show them coping with normal lives, while at the same time supressing the urge to march into Imperial Center and destroy Vader and the Emperor.
Add in some bounty hunters, Imperials, smugglers (for and against the fugitive Jedis), senators (perhaps from the Two-Thousand) "casual" heroes and quite frankly you have a wide array of characters from all different walks of life, giving the authors plenty to explore in their scripts. And it'll be dark, gritty, with your humor, because that's what these Jedis need (and perhaps some romance, because really, someone needs to repopulate the galaxy with jedis!)
I may have read that none of the main PT characters will be featured, and I guess that's okay. But I think there's plenty of material to work from.
Heck, why don't we cross SW with CSI (Vegas)?!? Who's with me?
No one? Oh well...
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