Author Topic: What do you think about a Rogue Squadron TV show?
Captain_Kazan 
Registered: Oct '06
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Date Posted: 10/31/06 10:45am Subject: RE: What do you think about a Rogue Squadron TV show? - Date Edited: 10/31/06 10:46am (1 edits total) Edited By: Captain_Kazan
loki41872 posted:
Let's have the live action series be more like the OT, with more realism and less mysticism


Realism?!? raised_brow No offense, but I'd hardly call X-wings and TIE fighters realism. wink

 

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Jamiebacca 
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Date Posted: 10/31/06 11:11am Subject: RE: What do you think about a Rogue Squadron TV show?
Captain_Kazan posted:
loki41872 posted:
Let's have the live action series be more like the OT, with more realism and less mysticism


Realism?!? raised_brow No offense, but I'd hardly call X-wings and TIE fighters realism. wink


Smartass.

I think he/she meant higher on the plausibiltymeter.

 

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Jedi-Queen 
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Date Posted: 11/1/06 4:12am Subject: RE: What do you think about a Rogue Squadron TV show?
"I think he/she meant higher on the plausibiltymeter."

Who cares about how plausible it is, this is sci-fi, anything goes.
I agree Captain_K.
I am sick of people tossing around the term fanboy/girl like it's a dirty word, grow up.
I was around for the OT and your narrow minded view of how people interpreted it was definitely
not shared by myself or any of my friends so I doubt it's a reflection of the general public.
SW is a good vs evil story, the Jedi being good. They (O-W/Luke) were the heroes.
So were the rest of the rebels, Leia, Han etc..., but it was the mysticism and power of the Jedi
that was so captivating. They have to remain balanced while fighting evil, no easy task yet they
have dedicated their lives to doing so which is admirable.
Maybe that's the problem, admirable heroes are hard to find now so let's settle for those who
just shoot guns or blow things up.

 

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Jamiebacca 
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Date Posted: 11/1/06 12:07pm Subject: RE: What do you think about a Rogue Squadron TV show?
... so what's wrong with the show taking a new direction for the small screen? Focus on the grey areas - bounty hunters, mercenaries, the alliance, dangerously out-of-touch galactic government employees...

 

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loki41872 
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Date Posted: 11/1/06 6:34pm Subject: RE: What do you think about a Rogue Squadron TV show?

Maybe that's the problem, admirable heroes are hard to find now so let's settle for those who shoot thing and blow stuff up posted:



Works for Battlestar Galactica.

And some of my best friends are fanboy/girls. And even they are burned out on Jedi.

 

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Jedi-Queen 
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Date Posted: 11/2/06 4:09am Subject: RE: What do you think about a Rogue Squadron TV show?
"Works for Battlestar Galactica"

That is all it's ever been about, space battles etc..
The new one sux btw, but that's a whole other debate that doesn't belong here whistling

 

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Jamiebacca 
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Date Posted: 11/2/06 12:02pm Subject: RE: What do you think about a Rogue Squadron TV show?
Um, the whole one was kind of crappy, too. It's all SW knock-off. Bah, Humbug! There's only room for one sci-fi series in my poor little head. (well Stargate is watchable - sometimes, I guess).

 

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Darth_Morder 
Registered: May '04
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Date Posted: 11/3/06 9:05pm Subject: RE: What do you think about a Rogue Squadron TV show?
Kind of an out of date reply....

Jamiebacca posted:
Darth_Morder posted:

However, I think that if a series like that would ever be produced, it should be "loyal" to the styles of the original trilogy, 'cuz that's where the magic of star wars is... simple scenarios, real... i don't know. The thing im sure of is that if it follows the style of BSG, the series would REALLY suck...



How about it being loyal to something fresh and new?


What do u mean by "fresh and new"?... episode 1, 2 & 3 are "fresh and new" and they kind of sucked. I just want something with less special effects, Lucas used so many effects on the new trilogy that theres nothing special about them now.... If by "fresh and new" u mean nu stories, characters n new ships etc, i totally support that, as i said before, the star wars universe is huge and there are thousands of good stories to explore, like the thing they're doing in the official site, that members of hyperspace can write stories for characters that appear like for two seconds walking around the sets... that should have been done a long time ago. And now, with the post-ep3 pre-ep4 series they seem to be taking that track, exploiting untold star wars stories.
There are thousands of things to see in the swuniverse, and i want to see them...


Jedi-Queen posted:
I agree D_M happy
SW is what it is and I love the original concepts, it is magical and losing some of it's most important original elements


That is true.

Jedi-Queen posted:
I agree D_M happy
SW is what it is and I love the original concepts, it is magical and losing some of it's most important original elements (SUCH AS JEDI)


That is not true.

Im fed up with Jedi. The nu trilogy was all about jedi and it REALLY wasn't what i expected it to be, it was really disapointing. Honestly, i just enjoyed watching them all die in episode 3, it was about time happy

Episode 4, the first star wars movie, had very little jedi in it... obi-wan, darth vader, and Luke does not count as a jedi... the cool thing about star wars were the ships, the rebels vs empire thing, the planets, droids etc etc... everything presented as very natural, like if it was always there, no explanations about anything, it just started, tantive iv, star destroyer, lasers!.... i saw it when i was 8 years old the first time, and those where the things i loved, Jedi are not cool anymore, they're worn out... i want to see other stuff, i want to see a nerf hearder, whatever, there are "normal" people in the sw universe, i want to know about them... jedi no more.


Jamiebacca posted:
Um, the whole one was kind of crappy, too. It's all SW knock-off. Bah, Humbug! There's only room for one sci-fi series in my poor little head. (well Stargate is watchable - sometimes, I guess).


I agree, but i do like stargate (sg1 and specially Atlantis) i think it's cool how they play with the theories about how every civilization on earth comes from atlantis bla bla... out of topic

 

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MaGnUs Darklighter 
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Date Posted: 11/7/06 1:17am Subject: RE: What do you think about a Rogue Squadron TV show?
Jamiebacca posted:
Captain_Kazan posted:
loki41872 posted:
Let's have the live action series be more like the OT, with more realism and less mysticism


Realism?!? raised_brow No offense, but I'd hardly call X-wings and TIE fighters realism. wink


Smartass.

I think he/she meant higher on the plausibiltymeter.


Me too, see below.

Jedi-Queen posted:
"I think he/she meant higher on the plausibiltymeter."

Who cares about how plausible it is, this is sci-fi, anything goes.


First of all, Star Wars is not science fiction, it's space opera. Second, even if you don't conform to acceptable scientific parameters, you still need in story cohesiveness... anything goes in stupid Mary-Sue fanfic, but a true work of fiction needs to be plausible, within the fictitious universe's parameters.

 

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Date Posted: 11/7/06 1:37am Subject: RE: What do you think about a Rogue Squadron TV show?
First of all, Star Wars is not science fiction, it's space opera. Second, even if you don't conform to acceptable scientific parameters, you still need in story cohesiveness... anything goes in stupid Mary-Sue fanfic, but a true work of fiction needs to be plausible, within the fictitious universe's parameters.

That's a pretty good observation really. Not many people will separate sci-fi from space-opera, and to be fair the lines are blurred somewhat.

Personally, I do prefer more science than I do fiction when dealing with sci-fi, but I have a strong science background, and prefer things to be feasible. To grab an audience and keep them interested your story has to be cohesive and plausible (I totally agree), and the OT had that, whereas the PT did not. Infact, the PT destroyed some elements of the OT for me.

Anyways, good points from both sides happy

 

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SionsBrother 
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Date Posted: 11/26/06 4:44pm Subject: RE: What do you think about a Rogue Squadron TV show?
Maybe they should make it about Rogue Squadron during the Yuuzhan Vong War, maybe see Jaina
Solo blow up some skips.

 

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Lavaman 
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Date Posted: 11/27/06 4:31pm Subject: RE: What do you think about a Rogue Squadron TV show?
Jamiebacca posted:
... so what's wrong with the show taking a new direction for the small screen? Focus on the grey areas - bounty hunters, mercenaries, the alliance, dangerously out-of-touch galactic government employees...




cool I agree

 

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DARTH_VRUC 
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Date Posted: 12/3/06 7:18am Subject: RE: What do you think about a Rogue Squadron TV show? - Date Edited: 12/3/06 7:22am (1 edits total) Edited By: DARTH_VRUC
Jedi-Queen posted:
So were the rest of the rebels, Leia, Han etc..., but it was the mysticism and power of the Jedi
that was so captivating. They have to remain balanced while fighting evil, no easy task yet they
have dedicated their lives to doing so which is admirable.


Sure, I actually agree with you. Jedi were an essential part of the OT. When I watched ANH at the humble age of 3 I ran behind the couch at the sight of Darth Vader. I almost cried when Obi died.
Jedi were incredible, mystical warrior-philosophers, and it was a beauty to watch them fight. There was something incredible captivating in the lightsabre, when the humble, wise man was pushed too far and was forced to fight his opponent...
I look back to the days of the OT with a nostalgia and a deep sense of something lost, and those are the them.


Wondering why I'm talking in past tense?

The Jedi, at least what they originally were, died. Not only in the movie itself, but as a concept. Now we've got blatant, flat, non-caring Jedi-action hero characters running all over the place, drawing their weapons and killing people for this-and-that! I'm not sure when did the mystic, shadowy figure of the Jedi-philosopher, who is much as an artist and an intellectual as a warrior (warrior, mind you, not a thug they're) disappeard. Jedi nowdays are so popular especially because they are now unstoppable, mindless killing-machines. And the mass viewer/player loves exactly that.


God's sake, there are fewer "normal" people in the PT than Jedi, not to mention main characters! How many potential subplots, which wouldn't have hurt at all the "space fairy tail" feeling of the Saga, were wasted to add more pointless saberfights!? A longer, deeper and more beliavable love story, the usage of a cloned army (leave the Mando stuff aside, I'm talking about human rights perspective), a more detailed look into the Confederacy and its "cause" (which in the movie simply didn't exist; then how did half the Galaxy join it, free cookies?!)...

If the TV show is about something, let it be of the ordinary men. Not about a killer for hire (as much as I love Boba Fett), not about action-heroes with shiny weapons, not politics(!).
Let us know, feel, understand why did the Galaxy change? How did the population of the GFFA percieve the Empire and the New Order, why did the people fight for one side or the other?

Doesn't mean you have to turn it into a drama. But I don't want another set of "arena battles". Han Solo, Darth Vader, Obi-Wan were all truely deep and powerfull characters without loosing any of their charm, be it a funny, grumpy pirate or an evil lord...

 

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DarthDubya05 
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Date Posted: 12/9/06 5:10pm Subject: RE: What do you think about a Rogue Squadron TV show?
DARTH_VRUC posted:
Jedi-Queen posted:
So were the rest of the rebels, Leia, Han etc..., but it was the mysticism and power of the Jedi
that was so captivating. They have to remain balanced while fighting evil, no easy task yet they
have dedicated their lives to doing so which is admirable.


Sure, I actually agree with you. Jedi were an essential part of the OT. When I watched ANH at the humble age of 3 I ran behind the couch at the sight of Darth Vader. I almost cried when Obi died.
Jedi were incredible, mystical warrior-philosophers, and it was a beauty to watch them fight. There was something incredible captivating in the lightsabre, when the humble, wise man was pushed too far and was forced to fight his opponent...
I look back to the days of the OT with a nostalgia and a deep sense of something lost, and those are the them.


Wondering why I'm talking in past tense?

The Jedi, at least what they originally were, died. Not only in the movie itself, but as a concept. Now we've got blatant, flat, non-caring Jedi-action hero characters running all over the place, drawing their weapons and killing people for this-and-that! I'm not sure when did the mystic, shadowy figure of the Jedi-philosopher, who is much as an artist and an intellectual as a warrior (warrior, mind you, not a thug they're) disappeard. Jedi nowdays are so popular especially because they are now unstoppable, mindless killing-machines. And the mass viewer/player loves exactly that.


God's sake, there are fewer "normal" people in the PT than Jedi, not to mention main characters! How many potential subplots, which wouldn't have hurt at all the "space fairy tail" feeling of the Saga, were wasted to add more pointless saberfights!? A longer, deeper and more beliavable love story, the usage of a cloned army (leave the Mando stuff aside, I'm talking about human rights perspective), a more detailed look into the Confederacy and its "cause" (which in the movie simply didn't exist; then how did half the Galaxy join it, free cookies?!)...

If the TV show is about something, let it be of the ordinary men. Not about a killer for hire (as much as I love Boba Fett), not about action-heroes with shiny weapons, not politics(!).
Let us know, feel, understand why did the Galaxy change? How did the population of the GFFA percieve the Empire and the New Order, why did the people fight for one side or the other?

Doesn't mean you have to turn it into a drama. But I don't want another set of "arena battles". Han Solo, Darth Vader, Obi-Wan were all truely deep and powerfull characters without loosing any of their charm, be it a funny, grumpy pirate or an evil lord...


I Concur.

 

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jedi-master-anikinrl 
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Date Posted: 12/22/06 12:54pm Subject: RE: What do you think about a Rogue Squadron TV show?
I would think if would be awsome to have that because you can see what happens with Rouge Squad instead of on the video games and see how good they will do on the ships.

 

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