Author Topic: Tartakovsky's Clone Wars... a work of art???
brotha_masta 
Registered: Feb '07
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Date Posted: 2/23/07 1:59pm Subject: Tartakovsky's Clone Wars... a work of art??? - Date Edited: 2/24/07 3:16am (1 edits total) Edited By: malkieD2
we all know the films are fun and cool to talk about. but did anyone finish watching the Clone Wars cartoon and saying "****!! this is... amizing!"?

yea my friends also made fun of me for watching cartoons... but maaan.. didnt anyone else notice the artistic features of Clone Wars??

its kinda hard to explain but here goes:

For example, i like the seldom use of dialogue and the focus on actions rather than words. windu's fight on dantooine, for example.. not a single word

Also, the exaggeration of the amount of troops or ships in a battle. On the fight over munilist there mustve been millions of little ships shooting each other. there were bullets (or lasers) flying all over the place and yet the fight continued. Anakin's little pursuit of two ships made him travel the whole length of a cruiser only so that he quickly shoots them down as soon as he gets back into space.

I also loved the lack of music in the right places, specifically in the battles. cutting out the music during the fights made it more realistic and gave it a "your-in-the-action" effect.

If you think that Clone Wars deserved more than just Cartoon Network... write you comments.

malkie edit you need to star it all out happy

 

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Heliosphan 
Registered: Feb '07
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Date Posted: 2/23/07 2:16pm Subject: RE: Tartakovsky's Clone Wars... a work of art???
It was alright. The episodes kept deviating between being juvenile and being dark, that really annoyed me.

 

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DarthBoba  28046 posts
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Date Posted: 2/23/07 3:45pm Subject: RE: Tartakovsky's Clone Wars... a work of art???
No. Lack of character development and utter repetitiveness prevents this from being much more than the clone wars comics watered down for small children.



 

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AnakinGirl05  854 posts
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Date Posted: 2/23/07 4:31pm Subject: RE: Tartakovsky's Clone Wars... a work of art???
I think it was wonderfully done quite honestly. There are some elements to it that attract a younger fan base, but in no way do I view it as strictly a kids thing. I love the art of it personally, and for me it serves as a real bridge between erpisodes 2 and 3, which I love.

As far as character development, it doesn't have much in terms of building on anything new, but I felt like I knew enough about the characters that I didn't need any new character development. I do wish there was more on Asajj, but then I wish she was in the movies and not considered just an EU character, I think she is a better villian than Dooku ever was.

 

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hanimal 
Registered: May '00
Date Posted: 2/24/07 12:45am Subject: RE: Tartakovsky's Clone Wars... a work of art???
No, I think you are absolutely right - this was an amazing animated event - I think your comparison to a work of art is very appropriate - Art doesn't need characterization - it lets you do that in your mind - I think that the animated show did the same thing - it gave you visuals, in a powerful way, and let you fill in the rest - it is picasso, to Lucas'...I don't know, Rockwell? don't kill me for saying that - I just think Lucas is going for a "close to life" feel, where clonewars was going for a very abstract, but still powerful feel - and they achieved it, in my opinion. Others also agree, as is apperant from the boat load of awards it won, and dvds it sold - this is really solid animation - however, I hope that the new cartoon is a little less abstract, as I miss new star wars stories in a somewhat realistic setting - Plus the clone wars is full of my favorite characters, and I can't wait to see them in action (do more than stand around, discuss stuff, and get killed, as in the movies).

 

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vong333  1613 posts
Registered: Oct '03
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Date Posted: 2/28/07 5:58pm Subject: RE: Tartakovsky's Clone Wars... a work of art???
I agree, this was awesome. For me ever since the prequels came out. Only the clone war cartoon series has been something that I have been looking for. To me the movies lacked a lot, compared with the animation. I'm hoping that the new one is good.

 

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Blackout  2105 posts
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Date Posted: 3/1/07 1:00pm Subject: RE: Tartakovsky's Clone Wars... a work of art???
I think of it as a work of art, yes.
For the most part it's hand-animated. Two hours of hand-animation. Whether you personally like the art or not is up to you, of course; but for the guys and girls that sweated over this - it's art. For those of us that love CW - it's art. happy

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Jamiebacca  2233 posts
Registered: Jun '03
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Date Posted: 3/2/07 10:26am Subject: RE: Tartakovsky's Clone Wars... a work of art???
I'd go as far as to say the the animated Clone Wars are Awesome Oppossum. Both DVDs are in between EpsII & III on my shelf - where they belong.

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Awesome, awesome oppoooooossum, awesome oppoooooosum
Is this cartoon...

 

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ROTS_Obi1  2417 posts
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Date Posted: 3/2/07 12:43pm Subject: RE: Tartakovsky's Clone Wars... a work of art???
I personally feel that it is a work of art. The drawings are wonderfully done. An amazing piece of work. applause

 

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DBrennan3333  417 posts
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Date Posted: 3/2/07 8:03pm Subject: RE: Tartakovsky's Clone Wars... a work of art???
My opinion is completely and absolute: NO.

Personally, I think that all the fawning over these movies is phony. I mean, why does everybody always say "Tartakovsky's Clone Wars" but to try to look sophisticated, ya know?

The first Clone Wars DVD, IMO, was downright bad. (And I love all things Star Wars.) The second one was solid, but still not great.

The action in both of them was totally illogical. There were so many things which went against both common sense (like at the start of Pt. 2, why did the Clone Troopers drop the bombs on the robots - who didn't react to them - and then not detonate them for like 20 minutes?) and SW canon (like, how the heck did Mace use the Force on an entire crew of, like, 1,000 enemies? If Anakin is stronger than Mace, wouldn't Anakin just have done that?

I think all the slobbering over these is phony. (Although I do like the second DVD.)

 

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Obironsolo  94 posts
Registered: Feb '05
Date Posted: 3/3/07 12:48am Subject: RE: Tartakovsky's Clone Wars... a work of art???
Since when does the quality of a work determine whether or not it is "a work of art"? Of course it's a work of art!!!

Animation is an art form.

Now is the question...should Tartakovsky's Clone Wars be considered a masterpiece?

I'd say definitely yes. While I don't think they were perfect, I thought that in many instances, they managed to blend the tones of the two trilogies together in very clever ways.

Is there a different consensus out there as to what constitutes a work of art? For instance, do people out there say that the Ewok and Droid cartoons are not works of art?

Interesting....


 

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MistrX  770 posts
Registered: Jun '06
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Date Posted: 3/4/07 11:27am Subject: RE: Tartakovsky's Clone Wars... a work of art???
I think it is and I think it's well done for what it is. It seems that some people are expecting the movies in cartoon form. I certainly didn't expect much when I first heard about them, but they far surpassed my expectations.

 

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Barriss_Coffee  4796 posts
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Date Posted: 3/4/07 8:23pm Subject: RE: Tartakovsky's Clone Wars... a work of art???
It exceeded my expectations, too. I never really watch cartoons, and I hate anything the Cartoon Network produces. This was definitely an exception.

 

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Jamiebacca  2233 posts
Registered: Jun '03
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Date Posted: 3/5/07 10:51am Subject: RE: Tartakovsky's Clone Wars... a work of art???
I didn't think they'd be as good as they were.

I love how they Flow on DVD. And when you watch the behind-the-scenes stuff, how passionate the animators are - I believe them because it shows in their work.

Good work, Animated Clone Wars People!

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vong333  1613 posts
Registered: Oct '03
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Date Posted: 3/8/07 8:31pm Subject: RE: Tartakovsky's Clone Wars... a work of art???
This series will always be special to me. No amount of written literature or ret-con can change what I love about the series. The invisible droids, the flying ability of Mace Windu plus his tremendous vertical leap at the end of chapter 20, the clone troopers with scuba gear and jet packs, the clone war action, the jedi action. It was what I had always dremaed that star wars should be. Hopefully the new animation will be just as good, or maybe better.

 

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DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR  399 posts
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Date Posted: 3/9/07 5:46pm Subject: RE: Tartakovsky's Clone Wars... a work of art??? - Date Edited: 3/9/07 5:47pm (1 edits total) Edited By: DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR
I agree. It felt the same to me too. Loved the series so much, I went out and purchased them the first day they came out. I just wish they would merge them into a two-hour flick, since they are not making more of this style of animation.

 

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