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G-FETT
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5/14/07 8:17am
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Yeah, of course we'll all watch it. 
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Koohii
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5/14/07 11:11am
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vegaserik posted:
As far as I'm concerned even a bad Star Wars show would be better then most TV shows today.
I'll see you, and raise you:
Even the bad TV shows of the 70s are better than most of what is on today! I'd rather watch Happy Days or Mork&Mindy than 98% of what is currently broadcast.
The sad thing is, for all their problems, the most horrid sci-fi show has at least the potential to help people open their minds. I wonder if we haven't slipped into the world of Harrison Bergeron without needing to enforce wearing head Bands.
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DarthMateous
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5/14/07 12:59pm
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Koohii posted:
vegaserik posted:
As far as I'm concerned even a bad Star Wars show would be better then most TV shows today.
I'll see you, and raise you:
Even the bad TV shows of the 70s are better than most of what is on today! I'd rather watch Happy Days or Mork&Mindy than 98% of what is currently broadcast.
The sad thing is, for all their problems, the most horrid sci-fi show has at least the potential to help people open their minds. I wonder if we haven't slipped into the world of Harrison Bergeron without needing to enforce wearing head Bands.
I'll take ANYTHING over the ridiculous overabundance of lame-ass reality TV shows! I mean, come on, do we really have to tolerate some stupid Nanny show about some uneducated family that is ill-equipped to raise their kids that we don't even give a crap about?!
I'll take something that's well-written, well acted, compelling and ENTERTAINING like Heroes anyday!
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Darth_Sidious-
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Well hey, there's no way the tv show will be worse than TPM. So it'll probably be good.
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DarthMateous
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5/14/07 5:00pm
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Darth-Erevos posted:
Interesting topic indeed that brought up some very good issues for debate.
Firstly, IMO SW is something absolutely UNIQUE. It "plays" in a category of its own. It's called space opera. It's like science-fiction/heroic fantasy/classic tragedies blended together. Nothing looks alike and nothing can be compared with it. So, SW in TV would be a phenomenon that up to a point cannot be predicted.
Not only that, but Lucasfilm is FUNDING the series. That's a KEY point because most networks generally only cancel shows for one of two reasons:
1) Ratings - This shouldn't be an issue. Remember, Star Wars is a WORLDWIDE phenomenom.
So, more than likely, there will always be an audience eager to watch anything Star Wars.
2) Profit vs. Loss - A TV network is going to be paying considerably less to get Star Wars on their station, than if they had to produce it themselves. (Consider how much Sopranos, Deadwood and Rome cost HBO to make) That means there's going to be less risk involved for these networks and more opportunities to reap some major benefits (profit, viewership, joint marketing, etc...)
So I really don't really see Star Wars being in any danger of being short lived. The only way that would happen is if GL and Lucasfilm royally screw the series up and create utter crap. But GL hires far too many competent people in the industry to allow that to happen.
Of course, this is all speculation on my part based on my experience and knowledge of the TV industry. So we'll just have to wait and see.
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Mungo
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5/14/07 9:24pm
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Darth_Sidious- posted:
Well hey, there's no way the tv show will be worse than TPM. So it'll probably be good.
Well, TPM is my favorite of the films, so I guess I have nothing to worry about with the TV show. 
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G-FETT
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I don't think which movies you like will be much of a guide for whether or not you like the TV show. The show will be a VERY differant thing to the movies, so even if you like TPM, that doesn't mean you'll like the TV show and those that hate the PT may even end up liking the show. We'll just have to wait and see.
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El Kabong
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5/15/07 12:32pm
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The2ndQuest posted:
Yeah, I think only JMS has managed to write an entire season+ of a TV sries by himself- and he's a writer who likes to write. Lucas doesn't even like writing, IIRC (or at least finds it to be his least favorite aspect of filmmaking).
Actually I think the only person who JMS was unable to beat - as far as writing streaks goes - was Rod Serling. Serling did like nearly 2 years back to back of Twilight Zone (it was something like 92 episodes, if memory serves). All but one episode from season 1 and most of season 2 came from his pen.
Koohii posted:
[quote=The2ndQuest]In adition to Brian Daley, I'd like to throw in a mention of the loss of Terry Nation, who DID write entire seasons (13 FULL HOUR episode seasons) of the shows he invented. 
Oooh, I dont know if I can get behind that. Terry is a real hit or miss writer. Some of his Blakes 7 work is really good (some not so), but he wrote the same Dalek story like 3 times in a row.
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Koohii
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5/15/07 12:54pm
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DarthMateous posted:
I'll take something that's well-written, well acted, compelling and ENTERTAINING like Heroes anyday!
May I cheerfully refer you to:
Blake's 7, Survivors (the 70s sci-fi, not the lame-ass reality show), The Sandbaggers, House of Cards, To Play the King, Final Cut, TraffiK (the original british miniseries, not the american crapfest), Taggart
When you're done with those, let me know & I'll give you more.
El Kabong:
Season 1 of Blake's 7 is excellent. After that, the pool of BBC hacks were allowed in. Even his weak episodes, however, were ground-breaking for their time. I don't like all the episodes (some are downright silly, in fact) but usually the acting carries past the writing.
One of the best qualities of Terry Nation's shows was that he always wrote the entire first season, be it 6, 13, or 22 episodes. The first season of MacGyver is far better than the rest. Why? TN wrote everything, and all those rediculous gagdets are actually feasible--they would work!
As for writing the same Dalek story 3 times--remember, this was BBC in the 60s ==> 80s. And Doctor Who was still classified as a "Kids Programme" by BBC, so everything had to be somewhat formulaic in many ways. Considering the restrictions, I think the stories show remarkable variety.
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DarthMateous
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Koohii posted:
DarthMateous posted:
I'll take something that's well-written, well acted, compelling and ENTERTAINING like Heroes anyday!
May I cheerfully refer you to:
Blake's 7, Survivors (the 70s sci-fi, not the lame-ass reality show), The Sandbaggers, House of Cards, To Play the King, Final Cut, TraffiK (the original british miniseries, not the american crapfest), Taggart
When you're done with those, let me know & I'll give you more.
Thanks! I'll be sure to check those out.
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Date Posted:
5/16/07 10:39am
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BoT: maybe the TV show can be "The Young Han Solo Chronicles", starring Nicholas Brendon.
A crusty old Han tells a bedtime story to Jacen and Jaina about the time he & Chewey met and...
Or not...
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DarthMateous
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5/17/07 12:42pm
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Koohii posted:
BoT: maybe the TV show can be "The Young Han Solo Chronicles", starring Nicholas Brendon.
A crusty old Han tells a bedtime story to Jacen and Jaina about the time he & Chewey met and...
Or not...
I don't think that's possible because GL made it clear that the series will feature minor characters and Han Solo isn't a minor character. Also, GL specified that the series wouldn't deal anything related to the Skywalker storyline (Which Han Solo was an integral part of).
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5/18/07 12:53pm
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OK, well that joke fell flat...
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5/18/07 1:44pm
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Koohii posted:
BoT: maybe the TV show can be "The Young Han Solo Chronicles", starring Nicholas Brendon.
A crusty old Han tells a bedtime story to Jacen and Jaina about the time he & Chewey met and...
Or not...
The problem with that concept is that it needs more Jar Jar! 
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5/18/07 5:56pm
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I just love the way people write off shows before they even begin. How about giving it a chance?
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