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MaStEr JiMmY PaGe *ZoSo*
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6/25/07 10:28pm
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RE: The Maguffin/Driving force of the TV series
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The droids, R2 in particular are/is the macguffin of Star Wars and should be used as such in the TV Series.
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Willy-Wonka-nobi
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Lavaman posted:
How would starting the Rebel Alliance with Organa and Mothma's first meeting be a "retcon" of the first major victory. The statement first major victory, implys that there were other SMALLER victories earlier in the timeline.
Also, as I said before, how do you explain the former Rebel Base on Dantooine that Leia mentioned in A New Hope. Unless someone can explain that away, Dantooine is proof that the Rebel Alliance existed long before A New Hope.
I understand your argument about smaller victories and stuff beforehand, but I think you misunderstood my post. I am actually sort of agreeing with you. To me it makes sense that the rebellion has been around for awhile in at least some form. But it would also be a very disappointing series, IMO, if we followed the story of a Rebel Alliance that don't win any "major victories" for like 18 years.
The problem that The2ndQuest pointed out is that is the established continuity in the EU basically says that the Rebellion hadn't been around for very long before ANH, and those writers based that off of the "first major victory" line in the opening crawl. That was the point of my comment about an informal rebellion existing long before the formal "Rebel Alliance." The name itself implies that before, different rebelling systems weren't working together in any organized fashion.
That was my point about retcon. "First Major Victory" doesn't have to mean the first victory EVER, just since they have formally declared themselves "The Rebel Alliance." That way everybody wins. In the series, we will still get to see some semblance of a rebellion that can have victories both MAJOR and minor  and it doesn't really mess with the established continuity much.
As far as the Rebel base on Dantooine, I do think that lends some credence to your argument, but it could be the same kind of thing. The base could be an older base from some of these smaller earlier rebellions, not the Rebel Alliance. Or the base could be only a couple of years old, like the Alliance, but it had to be abandoned for any number reasons that a writer could invent!
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BlackPool
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6/27/07 5:29am
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I doubt seriously we will see R2 or Threepio in the series. If they chose to use a maguffin, it will most likely be something or someone hopefully very different. The SW universe so badly needs be expanded again.
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I think R2 and 3PO will be in it at some point, but I don't think they will have a major role and I don't think they will drive the series. But I do think they will have a cameo at some point.
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BlackPool
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I doubt it because the droids are so closely tied to the Skywalker storyline. Lucas said that story's done and so I don't think we will see any of the characters that were more then casually involved in the movies.
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6/28/07 1:45am
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Well my reasoning for the droids being in one episode, a minor characters, is that Anthony Daniels has been involved with every Star Wars project, thus far (even if its just providing his voice for cartoons) and its become something of a tradition now.
If the very last episode goes right up to just before the opening of ANH (dealing with the Rebels stealing the death star plans from the Empire) There may be some scope to ease the droids into the last few minutes of that episode?
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BlackPool
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Hmmm...possibly.
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BlackPool posted:
Hmmm...possibly.
I see your still not ken on the idea! 
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BlackPool
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I'm just skeptical just as with everything else going on with this project. That said, I do think it would be awesome to see Captain Antilles be in one of the stories where we get to fallow him along in an adventure flying around in the familiar Blockade Runner with the droids in tow. I can think of nothing that would better bring back that old SW feeling. Especially if he gets to wear one of those white helmets. I always thought those helmets looked so cool. 
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6/28/07 11:54am
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Yeah, it'd be awesome to re-visit the Tantive again, especially if it was the last episode of the whole show. 
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StoneRiver
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BlackPool posted:
I doubt it because the droids are so closely tied to the Skywalker storyline. Lucas said that story's done and so I don't think we will see any of the characters that were more then casually involved in the movies.
I hear what yer sayin, but the droids can be in this part of the story too, don't forget, Captain Antilles gets them at the end of ROTS and in ANH 3PO does state "our last master was Captain Antilles" so....{deep breath}
If the series does have Bail in it, there is no reason why the droids could not be in it also, although George has stated that no major characters are in it so who knows!?!  
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I think that the droids are main characters but I'm not sure if GL does. I think I read somewhere (but can't remember where for the life of me) that he pretty much considers main characters to be Anakin/Vader, Luke, Leia, Han, Obi Wan, Yoda, and Palpatine. Thats it. So if this is true then this series could contain just about every character from the entire saga.
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Willy-Wonka-nobi
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sweet! so we could see the Lando Calrissian adventures! ... Just kidding...
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Andurias79
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Lavaman posted:
What prior Canons? EU? Don't get me wrong, I like some EU, but the only true Canon is what Lucas creates. The Rebellion starts whenever Lucas says it does. In fact we see the formation of the Rebellion's leadership in deleted scenes on the ROTS DVD. It seems to me that Lucas is setting up the TV Series from those scenes.
I personally like the idea of Bail Organa and Mon Mothma starting to plot out the Rebellion, and recruit members imediately after the formation of the Empire(ROTS). Why would they wait 20 years? I can't see Organa not making a move for so long.
Well, I second the Idea of different rebel groups in the first years of the Empire. Of course one of that groups lead by Bail Organa or Mon Mothma is the basic of the further Rebel Alliance. But dont forget to se up a rebellion you need a hand of good and strong leaders that are able to unite the different groups. That can be a long way. You need money and supply. And of course before the success there are also defeats.
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Now that we know that the Death Star construction had begun back in Ep3, maybe "the first rebel victory" of finding the blueprints actually happens 18 years before Ep4. Which is followed by an 18 year odyssey of all sorts of people trying to deliver them, Tag & Bink style!  
I think Firefly might actually be a good model - an outlaw crew being stuck with some special guy (a Jedi) who's wanted by the Empire and thus has lots of bounty hunters (especially Boba Fett) in tow. Oh, wait - I think the KOTOR comics are actually a much better comparison, as it doesn't raise any "Joss Whedon is my new master" discussion... I'd watch that.
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No please not like Dark Times. They are always delayed!
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