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Dussan
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7/9/07 6:23pm
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PerfectCell posted:
The Clone Wars is a time full of so many events that there will always be stuff left to talk about or show on screen. Personally I'm a littl;e leary of anytime Lucas decides to toss his hands into established EU time periods, but that's my only real trepidtation in regards to this series.
Personally I think the EU needs a dose of Lucas every now and again.
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Robimus
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Yeah the live action is the hundred episode series(thats probably five full seasons). I'm somewhat looking forward to the animated series as well. The trailer shows Ventriss so it looks like we may get to see her story to its conclusion if nothing else.
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dizfactor
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7/19/07 4:48pm
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Robimus posted:
Yeah the live action is the hundred episode series(thats probably five full seasons). I'm somewhat looking forward to the animated series as well. The trailer shows Ventriss so it looks like we may get to see her story to its conclusion if nothing else.
That's possible if they decide to blatantly overwrite established canon, but we've seen her through to the end of the Clone Wars in continuity already.
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Robimus
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Maybe I'm a little out of touch on Ventriss then. When was the last official time we saw her? I could have missed something in a comic. Last I heard she was atained the rank of commander in the seperatist army. Help me out, what did I miss?
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MN_JEDI
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7/19/07 11:00pm
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dizfactor posted:
Robimus posted:
Yeah the live action is the hundred episode series(thats probably five full seasons). I'm somewhat looking forward to the animated series as well. The trailer shows Ventriss so it looks like we may get to see her story to its conclusion if nothing else.
That's possible if they decide to blatantly overwrite established canon, but we've seen her through to the end of the Clone Wars in continuity already.
Don't be surprised if they overwrite/overlap canon here. I really doubt that they are going to limit her apperences around what was in the cartoons and comics etc. Most of the general audience of the new show will not be EU versed and for it to be good story telling the show will see her through from introduction to conclusion.
Seriously, the most important part of her role is hunting down and confronting Anakin, which has already been covered by the EU to some extent. How could they do anything interesting with her character for the new show and not revisit her? They may just expand on her, but either way it will overlap some of what is already out there.
Don't get to cozy with your CW cartoons just yet. THE Clone Wars show will take presidence over them if there is conflict and that's fine by me. We know they've been refered to as tests anyways. What I'm wondering is if they will incorporate material from the books, overwrite material or avoid them all together. This will be interesting to see. 
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dizfactor
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7/20/07 1:58pm
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Robimus posted:
Maybe I'm a little out of touch on Ventriss then. When was the last official time we saw her? I could have missed something in a comic. Last I heard she was atained the rank of commander in the seperatist army. Help me out, what did I miss?
There were a number of stories after that point, but the big points are these:
* She dueled Anakin again on Coruscant. She taunted him by saying he played with the Dark Side, but didn't understand its true power. She cut his face, giving him the scar you see in ROTS, and threatened to kill Padme (he had been admiring a hololocket of her when she attacked). He went completely sickhouse on her, using the Dark Side of the Force to choke/strangle/crush her with these thick cables which were live with electricity and then flinging her broken and electrocuted body off the side of a building.
* Obi-Wan refused to believe she was dead, hunted her all over the galaxy.
* Eventually, he found her in a bacta tank on Boz Pity during the Battle of Boz Pity just before ROTS. She fought Kenobi and Skywalker, but was betrayed and abandoned by Dooku, who had one of the MagnaGuards shoot her in the back so she wouldn't delay his escape.
* She appeared to be redeemed as she lay dying, and she warned Kenobi to protect the center - meaning Coruscant. They loaded her body onto a medical shuttle along with the wounded Alpha, who was apparently paralyzed from the waist.
* She woke up and took over the medical ship, telling the pilot to go as far away from the war as he possibly could.
So, basically, she seemed to be redeemed, or at least to have seriously rethought her life, and went into hiding at the end of the Clone Wars, along with a paraplegic Alpha.
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dizfactor posted:
Robimus posted:
Yeah the live action is the hundred episode series(thats probably five full seasons). I'm somewhat looking forward to the animated series as well. The trailer shows Ventriss so it looks like we may get to see her story to its conclusion if nothing else.
That's possible if they decide to blatantly overwrite established canon, but we've seen her through to the end of the Clone Wars in continuity already.
Don't be surprised if they overwrite/overlap canon here.
I wouldn't be entirely, and I wouldn't be especially upset about it. I'm just saying that there's already a canon ending to her story, so it's not like a gap that needs to be filled.
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Robimus
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7/21/07 11:18am
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Thanks, I didn't realize she already was that developed. Maybe they should just let her rest then.
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MN_JEDI
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I think many people would like to see her well developed visually on screen. Many don't read or care about the books and CW cartoons were to short to learn anything interesting about her character other than the fact that she is a force user.
The new issue of the SW magazine has an interview with a producer and director of the new show. Looks like it's in good hands.
http://www.starwars.com/community/fanclub/mag/news20070720.html
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Galactica500
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I've really been digging into the Clone Wars TPB's (Loving them!). Now although it represents the War in spirts and in no moment to moment way the show may be going for it is really a lush and full history for our main characters and peripherals. (though Ventress has had far more attention than Padme'.)
It doesn't make sense to me for Lucas to write over EU stuff. How can he not? But what kind of tip toeing will he have to do if he adheres to the first cartoons, novels, and comics? I'm not sure Lucas could do the actual Clone Wars as well as Dark Horse did anyhow.
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vong333
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9/3/07 5:22pm
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The problem is that GL will not realy on the previous stuff. Yeah they'll honor it, but dosen't have to accept it as such and if the animation tells a better story, good whatever that was done before. For all this trouble, why not make more movies?
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m-makarov
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10/9/07 6:49pm
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The best I can come up with is...why not? Personally the Clone Wars era is my favorite by far in all of Star Wars and will continue to be so. Its epic and its exciting. I simply cannot wait.
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Blackfryar
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in the french magazine Cinelive RickMcCallum speaks about the future of Starwars and most notably the Clonewars, surprisingly he says that Lucas has emitted some doubts about the durability of the show though he is very confident about the live-action series.
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G-FETT
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10/14/07 9:04am
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Blackfryar posted:
in the french magazine Cinelive RickMcCallum speaks about the future of Starwars and most notably the Clonewars, surprisingly he says that Lucas has emitted some doubts about the durability of the show though he is very confident about the live-action series.
Really? That surprise's me. But then I always get the feeling Lucas is a bit of a pessimist.
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DarthArachnid
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i think they should just throw the storylines in the Tartatovsky series overboard and start from scratch with the CG series. For granted, the Tartatovsky series was very nice visually and coolly animated, but the dialogue is rather wooden and the action way over the top.
I think they're doing exactly that, since Lucas called the Cartoon network series a prototype, didnt he?
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vong333
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I think that is whats going to happen. They are going to start from the end of ATOC up to ROTS. I belive that we will also have a difinitive version of the begining of the Battle of Couruscant. Personally, I didn't like either the GFenndy's version becuase of the exaggeration nor the LOE novel. Thought that was too hokey. Star Wars is visual, real visual not BS visual. So I belive that the new animation will be closer to GL's visison than all the other crap thats come IE, novels, comic books, video games, and animation.
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