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ShaneP
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7/18/07 2:46pm
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Well, that could be what he meant. 100 episodes for one series, then another series with another hundred and so on.
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Mungo
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GARTH_MAUL posted:
I wouldn't expand into television TOO quickly - if they offer too many choices, ironically, people might not end up tuning in.
*cough*Star Trek*cough*
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Darth_Hydra
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GARTH_MAUL posted:
I wouldn't expand into television TOO quickly - if they offer too many choices, ironically, people might not end up tuning in.
I'd start with SW: Clone Wars, add 1 live-action series, and go from there. It could branch off, and I'm sure they're thinking big as usual, but I'm not even contemplating holding my breath.
I wouldn't worry about them expanding into TV too quickly. If people can keep track of three differents CSI or Law&Order series then two Star Wars shows shouldn't be a problem. Ideally, I think CN would be best for the Clone Wars series and HBO for the live action show.
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MaStEr JiMmY PaGe *ZoSo*
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Fox. LFL and FOX already have a relationship.
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Darth_Shpydar
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MaStEr JiMmY PaGe *ZoSo* posted:
Fox. LFL and FOX already have a relationship.
True. And FOX also is (generally) willing to give Lucas a lot of freedom in what he makes, since he's raked in so much $ for them in the past 30 years.
That said, i wouldn't be surprised if it ended up on SciFi, as the network has been gaining more and more steam in the last five years or so. But their paent company is NBC Universal, and i'm not sure what sort of relationship LFL has with them. It is somewhat telling that SciFi doesn't have the TV air-rights for any of the films.
I'd also say the animated series will be either CN or Fox as well. Also a possibility for FX to pick up one of the series, as it's (obviously) owned by FOX and has also been getting a decent reputation recently for its first-run shows.
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Darth_Hydra
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MaStEr JiMmY PaGe *ZoSo* posted:
Fox. LFL and FOX already have a relationship.
If either show gets put on FOX it'll get shuffled around to a new night or time slot every few weeks. 
Just for that reason alone I hope somebody else gets them.
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OKSTATE99
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Here is what Star Trek did
Original Series · 80 episodes
Next Generation · 178 episodes
Deep Space Nine · 176 episodes
Voyager · 172 episodes
Enterprise · 98 episodes
Good or Bad I dont know
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BlackPool
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I could see Lucas going as far as purchasing the airtime himself from whatever station or starting his own television co. to air them on. Whatever it takes to exempt himself from any accountability to anyone else or at the very least limit it significantly. I mean the guy's pretty much a modern day Walt Disney.
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G-FETT
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BlackPool posted:
I could see Lucas going as far as purchasing the airtime himself from whatever station or starting his own television co. to air them on. Whatever it takes to exempt himself from any accountability to anyone else or at the very least limit it significantly. I mean the guy's pretty much a modern day Walt Disney.
Of course, ultimately he IS still accountable. He's accountable to the viewer, the same as with his movies he's accountable to the cinema-goer. But I take your point that in terms of making the thing and everything that goes with production, he doesn't want to be accountable to anybody other than himself and the viewer, and I also agree that Walt Disney is a reasonable comparison.
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Hmm, hundreds of episodes spread across multiple SW TV shows? this sounds familiar... 
400 does sound like a lot, though not impossible- the Stargate franchise is hovering somewhere around 300 (counting the upcoming season and DVD movies), and has a third show on the way in a year or two.
Also, limiting each series to a few seasons would help keep costs down, since cast and crew usually negotiate for a higher salary each year, so shows tend to cost more the longer they stay on the air, but by ending the show after a few seasons and starting a new one up, things get reset back to zero, in a sense. That's what killed SG-1 in the end- running straight for 10 years just added things up too high (the ironic thing ebing theyw ere originally going to launch Season 9+ as a new show titled Stargate Command, which probably would have allowed the show to stay on the air longer if they had; but SFC opted to go for the "longest running american sci-fi show" achievement and 200th episode.
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BlackPool
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I'm not so sure I would use the word accountable there (though I don't know what other word I would use instead). I mean yes he is trying to sell a product but at the same time is a fisherman accountable to the fish he's trying to catch if they don't take the bait? But whatever the case, I get the clear impression that Lucas takes the viewer/fans for granted anyway and hasn't felt any such pressure us since 1980.
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I don't know. I think Lucas does care what people think about his movies/shows. If nobody went to see his movies, I think he would care. If nobody saw his shows I think he would care. I also think theres some evidence that he tried to make Attack of the Clones to appeal directly to fans, after the criticism he got for The Phantom Menace. He says he doesn't care what people say about him, but deep down I think he's an emotional guy and I think he does care.
2nd, looks like you made a good call on the multiple show thing. 
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BlackPool posted:
I mean yes he is trying to sell a product but at the same time is a fisherman accountable to the fish he's trying to catch if they don't take the bait?
Wouldn't it be more accurate to say "is a fisherman accountable to the people he's selling fish to if they don't buy the fish?"?
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The2ndQuest posted:
BlackPool posted:
I mean yes he is trying to sell a product but at the same time is a fisherman accountable to the fish he's trying to catch if they don't take the bait?
Wouldn't it be more accurate to say "is a fisherman accountable to the people he's selling fish to if they don't buy the fish?"?
I don't think so. The viewers aren't buying anything from Lucas in this case. That's what the advertisers are "fishing" for. But Lucas is trying to "bait" us into to watching his show. If anything it is the advertisers whom Lucas would be accountable to since they are the one's paying for the airtime. Unless of course, he does as I opined, which is to buy the airtime himself. But even if he did that, I think my analogy still stands correct unless he puts them on HBO or some pay TV site. But even then, it would be more HBO execs that he would be beholding to and I suspect he wouldn't be willing to do that. But anyway... 
G-FETT Again, if I may use my fishing analogy, imagine if for 30 years you've been casting you hook in the same place and every time you catch fish. I think it's human nature to take it for granted that tomorrow when the bait is cast out in that spot, then another fish is going to get reeled in and it will have long since lost it's novelty. I think the same is true with Lucas concerning the fans. But you are right in too it's human nature to dislike being criticized and rejected. But that's not the same as having a desire to please the fans which I think he lost a long time ago.
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BlackPool posted:
But that's not the same as having a desire to please the fans which I think he lost a long time ago.
Are you serious? Remember when he cut all of JarJar's scenes out of ROTS?
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