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WookieeWarrior9
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9/20/07 12:38pm
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So if there's no "Jedis" I think we can still have one Jedi. Right? lol
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younghansolo
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9/20/07 4:18pm
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if it's characters we already know about like bail and tarkin im all for it, but if we are introduced to new characters then I won't be too intrested. I would much rather have seen young luke or vader or even the fett killing jedi. But the thought of no jedi at all worries me a lot, otherwise it's just battlestar without the war.
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Logann_Pheoba
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9/23/07 1:49pm
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I do not really follow how anyone can say "if there are no jedi then it wont be interesting." In a new hope, there were not jedi running all over, the jedi were mostly struck down. I think that it is important that this show come on and show people that this is a universe and there are many less known, but equally interesting stories to be told. In that interview Lucas says "but it's characters from the saga who were [previously] minor," to me thats saying there will be stories from characters which many of us are familiar with. All i can say is...jedi? who needs em, ill go for something as great as this anyday. Although that may be because i am an EU fan and this kinda stuff gets me super excited  .
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DarthSapient
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9/23/07 1:55pm
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The more characters you have, the broader and more interesting the overall Star Wars universe. It might be cool to see someone familiar, but I would rather have a complete picture of what's going on. We know what the core characters are doing. Padme's dead. Vader's doing mean things, Obi-Wan's in hiding being hunted. Palpatine is becoming more secluded ruling from afar. Bail Organa is keeping up the facade that he's not alligned with the Rebellion. Business as usual. So it's cool to see how the citizens are being affected.
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Logann_Pheoba
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9/23/07 7:52pm
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DarthSapient posted:
The more characters you have, the broader and more interesting the overall Star Wars universe. It might be cool to see someone familiar, but I would rather have a complete picture of what's going on. We know what the core characters are doing. Padme's dead. Vader's doing mean things, Obi-Wan's in hiding being hunted. Palpatine is becoming more secluded ruling from afar. Bail Organa is keeping up the facade that he's not alligned with the Rebellion. Business as usual. So it's cool to see how the citizens are being affected.
I wholeheartedly agree. It will also be cool to see what kind of jobs the bounty hunters will be getting  .
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Darth_Hydra
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9/26/07 7:10pm
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The live action series seems like too golden of an opportunity to waste it on the movie characters. We already have dozens of books/novels/comics for core movie characters(from OT and/or PT). One thing I love about the EU is the chance to more fully flesh out the Star Wars galaxy.
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DarthSapient
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9/26/07 7:33pm
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And there's really no core characters around in this timeframe. Luke and Leia are kids. Han is also a kid or young adult. Anakin is Vader, Obi-Wan and Yoda are in exile, and Padmé is dead. It HAS to have new characters developed simply due to the constraint of the timeframe and pre-existing films. The only characters that are core who could be considered would be Bail Organa, Mon Mothma, Dodonna, the droids, maybe Tarkin, and Chewbacca.
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ShaneP
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9/27/07 1:42pm
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The one main reason I don't have a problem with "No jedis are in it" is because jedi as main characters are dramatic dead-ends.
We already know this guy/gal will have to die at some point. So any kind of chase/peril or whatnot is already spoiled by the fact we know they'll die or wont escape. It's pre-ordained.
And secondly is the fact that there's been TONS of spinoffs,EU,and the prequels themselves dealing with the jedi already.
I want to see the SW universe push itself out a little by filling in those areas that have been neglected for too long: a common rebel,citizen,or even imperial.
In fact, it'd be cool if they eventually expanded the timeline for the show and had spinoffs dealing with the prequel-era and other.
Imagine a episode dealing with someone from Theed during the occupation. Or maybe a Naboo insurgent.
You know what would be seriously amazing? What if Lucasfilm took all their outtakes and archival unused footage from the existing films and then intercut it into episodes that then followed one of the characters we were watching interacting with a major character or nearby?
In other words, the stories would intersect at points with the "film-verse" and then take a different route.
Maybe one of the rebel pilots briefed by Leia in ESB's Hoth sequence then has his story told after the meeting breaks up and that's the beginning of the episode?
You would watch the official meeting footage...or an alternate angle of it, and then following a specific pilot would be the new footage and subsequent episode.
Telling stories beyond the typical and well-trodden mythic heroes and villains would enrich the SW universe and make the heroes and villains stories more important.
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Cid
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9/28/07 1:09pm
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Shane, no offense, but so what if they have to die? Who cares?
Anyone who knows anything about Greek history knew Leonidas and the 300 were gonna buy the farm at the Hot Gates. The Titanic sinks, Caesar gets assassinated, you know the drill. In the PT you knew Obi-Wan WOULDN'T die (Not to mention the 800 pound gorilla in that particular argument, Anakin/Vader), did that take away anything?
Sorry, but all that little bit of 'no Jedi' news did for me was make me less excited about the live action series. There's TONS of sci fi that deal with pilots (BSG), petty theft (Firefly), the Military (Star Trek), running from the bad guy military (Farscape), what none of those shows have are Jedi. That sets everything apart.
Not to try to take away from your opinion, but that's why i am distressed by the news. Honestly i hope you are right, and it manages to still have the feel of SW. But i have my doubts.
At any rate, if you like it and i don't you win the argument by default.
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vertabraker
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9/29/07 10:53am
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I have a hard time thinking there won't be any former Jedi involved. Lucas has become so concerned with continuity, and there are loose ends involving Quinlan Vos, A'Sharad Hett, Shaak Ti, K'Kruhk, and so many others, maybe he meant 'no Jedi order'.
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ShaneP
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9/29/07 2:45pm
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Cid
In the PT you knew Obi-Wan WOULDN'T die (Not to mention the 800 pound gorilla in that particular argument, Anakin/Vader), did that take away anything?
Actually, YES, it did. 
The Jedi have been done over and over. Where is the imagination?
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There's TONS of sci fi that deal with pilots (BSG), petty theft (Firefly), the Military (Star Trek), running from the bad guy military (Farscape), what none of those shows have are Jedi. That sets everything apart.
SW pilots are not BSG pilots. SW smugglers are not Firefly ones, etc. The stories and experiences of those characters are different.
The jedi have had their story told and, frankly, it sucked.
If Lucas decides to have an Anakin apprentice and other nonsense, basically a Young Darth Vader Chronicles, then I'll be way less interested.
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WookieeWarrior9
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9/29/07 3:25pm
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Hey, sure, other series have done the space opera without the Jedi bit, but the Star Wars universe is still cooler. We have neat little droids, cooler spacecraft, blasters, and awesome planets. Star Wars TV is going to be bigger and better than all the rest (this coming from a fan of BSG and Firefly).
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Cid
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SW pilots are not BSG pilots. SW smugglers are not Firefly ones, etc. The stories and experiences of those characters are different.
But if for all intents and purposes the characters are the same, what's the difference. I'm talking practical, here. For all practical purposes one smuggler with a blaster is the same as any other like smuggler. One dogfight is the same as any other. What separates Starbuck from Wedge Antilles, exactly? They might have had different experiences but if they essentially do the same things on screen what's the practical difference? Same with Malcom Reynolds and Han Solo/any other SW smuggler.
I maintain that it is the Jedi/Sith and the fantasy elements they bring to the table that makes SW unique among sci-fi stories, and to see that fall by the wayside is a sad thing.
The jedi have had their story told and, frankly, it sucked.
No, Anakin had his story told (And, i agree, sorta badly).
If Lucas decides to have an Anakin apprentice and other nonsense, basically a Young Darth Vader Chronicles, then I'll be way less interested.
Agreed. I was talking about a brand new character who is totally unrelated to Anakin/Obi-Wan/Luke.
Honestly, i do see your point. I just can't say i agree with it, but then i do have an agenda.
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DarthSapient
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9/30/07 5:38pm
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We knew exactly how the PT would unfold. It was locked in from the OT. As far as being attached to the core OT characters, even that we let go of in order to make room for the new PT characters. And I'm glad I did, perhaps with the exception of Jar-Jar. I think there's always more room for new characters. The more characters, the more to our Star Wars universe. I consider that to be a good thing.
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ShaneP
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10/1/07 11:59am
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I too see your point. I just feel SW needs some new blood.
We've had 3 films just released full of jedi. There's alot more to the SW Universe....or there could be more to it if the writers let it.
With Anakin's and the jedi order's downfall now told they should use that as a launching pad to new characters and new types of characters and stories.
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