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WookieeWarrior9
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9/5/07 8:09pm
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I think the only way the series will do well is if it has a lot of character development. If every week is "____ fights ____ on planet ____", it would get old very quickly. Now, I obviously expect and am eager to see that, but we also need character development. The great sci-fi shows in recent years (BSG, Heroes, Lost, Firefly) have all had their share of excitement and action, but they're really character based dramas when you strip them down the core.
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vong333
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I'm excitied about his involovement becuase it means that the series is taking on a more serious tone, and will have more of a movie type input from GL as oppose to the prior clone war cartoons in which he didn't have as far as production, editing and the like, and the action went completely off the roof. With that said, though, the true question is what type of eu category is it going to be considered? Cause if GL says this is what officially occurred after Episode 2 up to Epsiode 3, I know many fans on these boards are going to be upset.
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Darth_Shpydar
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vong333 posted:
Cause if GL says this is what officially occurred after Episode 2 up to Epsiode 3, I know many fans on these boards are going to be upset.
Well, only if he decides to totally do away with what's already been presented via the novels and comics. Which of course is a distinct possiblity. But the fact that they have been in consultation with Dark Horse staff pretty much since they started working on the series is a good sign that even if some stuff is "overwritten", it may not be that much different than what there already is. There is enough "wiggle room" in the Clone Wars timeline that they can make it work without severe impact on what's come already, or just adjust the timing of some other events to make everything work.
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9/6/07 8:29pm
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I've been thinking more about this topic.
I wouldn't be too shocked to see more of the Jedi struggle against complacency, corruption, the temptation to join the Confederacy, the temptation not to get involved. How much foresight guided their way before, where now they have to rely on instinct.
Again, I'm not trying to betray at all what Lucas did with the PT; I love it, I really do. But remember the old saw about Lucas and actors? I wonder, with this new technology, if Lucas is finally going to be able to realize his dreams for the PT.
I mean, Anakin's stunt of jumping from STAP to STAP is pretty amazing, and I'm not sure it would have worked in the movies, but those are the kind of things I always wanted to see from the Jedi.
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I'm getting really excited about this series. It seems like it has tremednously great potential. I honestly hadn't thought of all the area's and plot lines it could cover, but now I see you guys coming up with all this stuff, its really exciting. 
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WookieeWarrior9
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I hope we'll see GL's vision on the creation of the clone army and the mystery of Sipho Dias (I butchered the spelling, I know). I'm sure some EU writer gave one answer, but I want to know what George's story is.
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Jango_Fettish
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WookieeWarrior9 posted:
I hope we'll see GL's vision on the creation of the clone army and the mystery of Sipho Dias (I butchered the spelling, I know). I'm sure some EU writer gave one answer, but I want to know what George's story is.
Well I know George has every right to change the story to fit better with the series, but the story James Luceno told in Labyrinth of Evil came right from Lucas, IIRC. George outlined what he wanted it to be for Luceno when he realized he would not be addressing it in ROTS. Even then though, the story told doesn't add too many details to what you could assume through AOTC.
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WookieeWarrior9
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Oh, well I don't read the EU books and I'm not alone in the regard, so he might do it for the sake of more casual fans. I really hope he decides to lift the veil on some of the mysteries of the PT that didn't get a chance to be answered in the movies.
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Jango_Fettish
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I agree, that would be very cool. I also hope to see some of Yoda's earlier interactions with Qui-Gon's Force spirit.
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Yeah, thats an area that definatly needs exploring. 
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Willy-Wonka-nobi
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I am glad that some of you folks think it is good thing, but I am a little more apprehensive... I kind of liked the idea of a STAR WARS story line that still had Lucas' guidelines, but were allowed to let some other talented folks take a stab at story telling...
After reading the article, it made me wonder if these people that work for Lucas are just a bunch of yes-men for the sake of keeping their jobs or if they genuinely do consider him a "genius" who vision is almost infallible. Here is the quote that made feel that way:
"This is of course what we always do in editing, but George's genius is definitely something to be witnessed. Even if it's something that you might not particularly agree with as you're creating it, you begin to realize over the course of watching it over and over that it's something that really makes it stronger."
Now if it is true, I can understand it. That makes sense to me. But I also wonder if people are just saying that because of who signs their checks. To me it would be easier to always end up agreeing with George Lucas than to disagree with him if you are his employee.
Anyone else feeling that at all? Am I off base?
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WookieeWarrior9
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I don't think you're off base, but I don't really agree with you. There's a lot of people who feel that George's people won't disagree with him. I read a C4 interview with (I think it was) Rob Coleman and he said that George doesn't micromanage at all. He told Rob that it's his job to "figure it out", and not in the rude way.
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Jango_Fettish posted:
I think this is great news. As if I wasn't excited enough 
One thing I am very surprised no one has commented on is, to me, the biggest issue this new CW series may be diving into. And that is how Palpatine / Darth Sidious will be handled. All of the EU and cartoons made for the Clone Wars as of now has been made to keep Palps' identity hidden. But now with ROTS out of the way, there is a good chance this series is going to show Palpatine in a behind the scenes, string pulling style that does not keep his duel persona hidden, as in the other cartoon (although there were hints). This really opens up a lot in my eyes, as we can see him doing things such as having a discussion with the Jedi, then going into his back room and calling on Dooku. I would not be surprised if this is why Lucas's interest has been spiked by this show - after having to keep Sidious a secret for so long, he can finally play with him in his full role.
Now that would be brilliant. Especially if they could get Ian Mcdiarmid to provide the voice.
I was just casually reading this thread again not intending to comment, but then I read this. I really like what you've thought of, J_F. It's certainly an interesting way to look at things.
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Jango_Fettish
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Tyi-Maet_Nefer posted:
I was just casually reading this thread again not intending to comment, but then I read this. I really like what you've thought of, J_F. It's certainly an interesting way to look at things.
Thanks 
I really hope that Palpatine is handled that way. It would make things interesting, and really justify revisiting the Clone Wars era.
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G-FETT
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Well we know Anakin confide's in Palpatine about what he did with the Tuskens, so thats one very call area that could be covered. Also, it'd be interesting to find out how much Palpatine knew about Anakin and Padme's relationship. And also whether he knew Yoda was communicating with Qui-Gon. The whole Qui-Gon thing, as has already been said, is an areas begging for development, but particularly whether Palpatine knew what was going on.
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