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sdp
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I doubt Hayden and Sam will reprise their roles, I mean this is an animated show that just happens to have the first 3-5 episodes being turned into a "movie". I doubt the actors would like to dub a 40+ episode cartoon not o mention it has a smaller budget, that is why most cartoons based on movies have different voice actors. They also wouldn't want to do a switcharoo in the movie and then a few weeks later a whole different voice cast for the show. Also animation is unlike other forms of entertainment, by now all lines for the first few episodes should already be recorded by now.
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GARTH_MAUL
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sdp posted:
I doubt Hayden and Sam will reprise their roles, I mean this is an animated show that just happens to have the first 3-5 episodes being turned into a "movie". I doubt the actors would like to dub a 40+ episode cartoon not o mention it has a smaller budget, that is why most cartoons based on movies have different voice actors. They also wouldn't want to do a switcharoo in the movie and then a few weeks later a whole different voice cast for the show. Also animation is unlike other forms of entertainment, by now all lines for the first few episodes should already be recorded by now.
This is correct. Jackson is a possibility because Windu has a smaller role and may not be in the first few episodes, but I would be flabbergasted if Christensen played any role in this.
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With respect to continuity, let's not get carried away. Quest of all people has the best grasp on continuity here, and undoubtedly remembers how screwed up Clone Wars continuity was becoming even before ROTS was released!
Let's not forget that LFL announced Labyrinth of Evil as the "official" tie-in scenario to ROTS, and then announced the last few episodes of Clone Wars as the "official" tie-in to ROTS. They were extremely close in some regards, and far apart in other respects. And yet, I was able to enjoy both. 
And reading the inaccuracies in the Heir to the Empire series with respect to the PT and the Clone Wars doesn't affect my enjoyment of any of them.
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The2ndQuest
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I have no doubt we'll have to crack open a fresh can of Retcon if/when the new show tackles the Battle of Coruscant down the road 
And, with respect to continuity in general for the series I don't think we need to worry that much- there's definitely a greater deal of care being made towards continuity here with Clone Wars 3D than with Clone Wars GT: we know the guy in charge knows a great deal of existing CW EU material and that he (or others involved in the series) requested copies of CW EU material for reference, and we have an episode at least partially written by Randy.
So factoring all that in, it looks like it's a safe bet the show will fit into continuity fairly well (though there'll no doubt be some bumps in the road that'll have to be paved over in the future, but that's the nature of the beast- and even then it seems most of those bumps are from Lucas pushing an idea into the mix, but again, that's always been the nature of the beast for EU material).
In fact, I think the only way you could really be in a better continuity position would be to have Abel, Wallace & Ostrander in charge- and, while certainly a thought generating preposterous amounts of fan-drool, is far from a realistic option at this point But I think we'll be in good hands with Dave in charge.
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yeah it's too bad Lucasfilm doesn't follow or incorporate expanded universe literature (give or take a cameo or mention) and it's continuity in the movies or the previous Cartoon Network Clone Wars Micro-Series.
Let's examine the starwars.com's announcement featuring a statement from Lucas:
"I felt there were a lot more Star Wars stories left to tell," said George Lucas, executive producer of Star Wars: The Clone Wars. "I was eager to start telling some of them through animation and, at the same time, push the art of animation forward."
That suggests all new stories... all new Clone War stories that is. One needs only to look at the 2004 Original Trilogy DVDs with it's inclusion of Hayden Christensen in ROTJ and Tem Morrison overdubs of Boba Fett in ESB to see that Lucas doesn't care about continuity. Let go of continuity and you will be happier for it. " "
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Now that I think about it, that one padawan Anakin killed in ROTS referred to Anakin as "Master Skywalker." Maybe this wouldn't be as much a problem as I thought it would. I do like the idea of this Padawan's master having been killed, and she is temporarily given to Anakin, as 2ndQuest mentioned is a possibility. Perhaps he does something with her that the Council doesn't approve of and they take her away from him, further estranging their regard for one-another.
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Finally just saw the new video, Intro to the Clone Wars with Dave Filoni narrating on the SW main page. I thought I was excited before! This looks amazing. The detail just from the preview is incredible.
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Actually, the prequels established (and the EU followed suit) that people can commonly refer to a Jedi by the honorific of "Master", even when they are not in fact of Jedi Master rank- Obi-Wan was called "Master Jedi", for example, despite having not yet completed Anakin's training.
HoodFigga posted:
yeah it's too bad Lucasfilm doesn't follow or incorporate expanded universe literature (give or take a cameo or mention) and it's continuity in the movies or the previous Cartoon Network Clone Wars Micro-Series.
They did use a few literature cameos in Clone Wars GT and the prequels- ARC Troopers, K'Kruhk & Aayla appeared in CWGT (though only after the latter had been incorporated into AOTC), Ventress & Durge were, at the very least, co-developed by Dark Horse, and you have Quinlan Vos mentioned (and would have appeared in the Order 66 sequence had his scene not been cut before it was shot) in ROTS (and, it's been speculated that his ultimate survival of O66 in the EU was the result of Lucas intervention, possibly in regards to the Live Action Series).
Additionally there were smaller references and cameos plopped in throughout (mostly references to the Droids cartoon, since Ben Burtt wrote episodes for that show).
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I'm so excited about the CW movie and tv show, and I'm especially interested to know all about Anakin's padawan.
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HoodFigga posted:
yeah it's too bad Lucasfilm doesn't follow or incorporate expanded universe literature (give or take a cameo or mention) and it's continuity in the movies or the previous Cartoon Network Clone Wars Micro-Series.
Let's examine the starwars.com's announcement featuring a statement from Lucas:
"I felt there were a lot more Star Wars stories left to tell," said George Lucas, executive producer of Star Wars: The Clone Wars. "I was eager to start telling some of them through animation and, at the same time, push the art of animation forward."
That suggests all new stories... all new Clone War stories that is. One needs only to look at the 2004 Original Trilogy DVDs with it's inclusion of Hayden Christensen in ROTJ and Tem Morrison overdubs of Boba Fett in ESB to see that Lucas doesn't care about continuity. Let go of continuity and you will be happier for it. " "
If you say so, but I'm not really sure what you mean -- Lucas fixed those continuity problems, so to me what you're saying is the exact opposite of the truth. You presented two examples of fixed continuity then said Lucas doesn't care. Huh? Am I missing something?
Having Hayden at the end of ROTJ makes more sense, it fixes the continuity of the story, i.e. Anakin appears in his Jedi form, back before he turned to evil, which makes sense for the story. The voice needed changing for Boba Fett, it just makes sense. Did I like Boba's voice better before? Well, yeah, because I was used to it. So I did like it better I'll be honest. Did it make sense in the continuity of the story? Nope, none whatsoever.
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I'm usually not a special edition basher, but having Hayden at the end of ROTJ misses the whole point of the movie, which is that the good side of Anakin Skywalker is still alive inside Darth Vader. He did NOT die in III, that's Obi-Wan and Yoda talking.
Luke knew.
George apparently forgot.
On topic, however, I'll say that the Clone Wars cartoon is going to be so awesome.
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Bowen posted:
The voice needed changing for Boba Fett, it just makes sense. Did I like Boba's voice better before? Well, yeah, because I was used to it. So I did like it better I'll be honest. Did it make sense in the continuity of the story? Nope, none whatsoever.
Sure it could have- with Boba being the only unaltered clone and living for much longer than the clonetroopers, he simply could have become his own self and lost a bit of his accent along the way as he lived his life- maybe his dangerous occupation led to some hazard or injury that made his voice a bit more growly. Or it could have simply been a voice filter on his helmet.
And, personally, I find the Jango-voiced Boba to be poorer not because it's not what I'm used to, but because it simply was a softer, lighter performance. It lacked the edge and depth of the original performance. I suspect they rushed it through for the DVD, since we've heard Tem do Boba-esque line delivery as Jango and the clones in the prequels that had at least similar characteristics now lacking in Boba.
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There's one article that I read that the new animated series is not going to contradict anything that occurred on GT's earlier clone war series. So GT's stuff is still canon.
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*sighs*
Alright, I just read the TV Guide story. And I am not amused.
At all.
Basically, at this point, Lucas is dropping a character (Anakin's padawan) into a place where there's really not room for that character, and putting in information that I rather suspect the lack of mention of before becomes rather questionable.
Yeah, in my book, the series is already even more dead now than it was before. This seals it. I'm not watching it.
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Alright, sorry for venting, but I needed to get that out of my system.
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So even if the series and movie get really good reviews and other Star Wars fans like it you won't watch just because Anakin has a padawan? Although, I think it was questionable to give Anakin an apprentice I will still see the movie and tv series because I love Star Wars and if they are good then I don't really care if Anakin has a padawan. I know those are big 'ifs', but it isn't out of the realm of possibility that this could happen and if it does I think you will change your mind.
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vong333 posted:
There's one article that I read that the new animated series is not going to contradict anything that occurred on GT's earlier clone war series. So GT's stuff is still canon.
I read that but we'll see how it pans out. I will be very surprised if this series with 22 30 minute episodes over multiple seasons, doesn't conflict with anything in some way, especially the GT shorts.
If they do in fact try not to overlap with anything done by the shorts, then the the series will be confined to the period after Anakin's knighting until before anything to do with the Coresaunt attack, and of course not touching any areas done by the shorts. Does anyone else find that to be kind of limiting for this apparently epic series?
If they are trying to work with the shorts, I'm really curious of exactly how and where this big series will take place in the CW timeline in relation with the shorts.
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