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SithStarSlayer
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Anybody read the USA-Today?
Here is the latest Star Wars quote from the maker on page 2 of section D.
Lucas has both May 22's Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull and the animated Star Wars: Clone Wars, out August 15. He wrote both. "It was a strange coincidence," Lucas says. "I've been trying for one and a half years to get Indy off the ground, and I've been thinking about Clone Wars even longer. Now I've got them just a few months apart. It's nice."
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And latest CW/info from IESB:
"The footage began with Anakin and his apprentice Ahsoka traveling to a major clone wars battle. They deploy with a bunch of clonetroopers and lead an attack straight up the side of a mountain to a base at the top. The vehicles they're traveling in actually turn and start climbing vertically up the rock while the Jedi follow on ropes."
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GARTH_MAUL
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Wow, 11 pages about nothing. 
I've argued often before some of the main things the PT is missing is the following:
(1) Anakin's relationship with Obi-Wan, Padme and Palpatine;
(2) The Clone Wars.
I gotta tell you, I just watched both The Clone Wars videos again, and I'm super excited. Lucas has said we're going to see a lot of the Clonetroopers, and called TCW "Band of Brothers" with Jedi.
I believe I'll be able to enjoy TCW, possibly even more than some of the PT, but as separate from The Saga.
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GARTH_MAUL posted:
I've argued often before some of the main things the PT is missing is the following:
(1) Anakin's relationship with Obi-Wan, Padme and Palpatine;
This is the only reason why I'd tune into the series. Hush-hush meetings between Anakin and Palpatine. Husband/wife slowdances set to Across the Stars. Glimpses into the "political idealism" of Dooku. You know, the stuff that belonged in AOTC.
But if this turns out to be Star Wars for the X-Box generation, then I'm bailing. That frenetic razzle dazzle wears on me mighty quick. "Tune in next week, as Yoda single-handedly destroys a Death Star prototype!"
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GARTH_MAUL
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Have you watched the videos? They really helped me get rid of my scepticism. 
Also, remember that Lucas was only going to have the slightest involvement in the series, but once they showed him what they were doing, he became excited...
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drg4
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My computer doesn't have the capability for such things. But if you say this series has the promise to be character-driven, rather than an exercise in wall-to-wall action (like that last Clone Wars series), then I'll bridle my skepticism.
I don't care about clone commanders or anonymous Jedi. I just want to come out of this with greater insight into Anakin, Padme, Obi-Wan, Dooku, and Palpatine. That's all.
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drg4 posted:
That frenetic razzle dazzle wears on me mighty quick. "Tune in next week, as Yoda single-handedly destroys a Death Star prototype!"
I'm sure he doesn't single-handedly destroy it... 
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drg4 posted:
My computer doesn't have the capability for such things. But if you say this series has the promise to be character-driven, rather than an exercise in wall-to-wall action (like that last Clone Wars series), then I'll bridle my skepticism.
I don't care about clone commanders or anonymous Jedi. I just want to come out of this with greater insight into Anakin, Padme, Obi-Wan, Dooku, and Palpatine. That's all.
Well, since the trailer only has one or two lines of dialog and is basically two minutes of explosions I'm not sure where that stance is coming from. The series could indeed be character-driven, but its trailer does not hint at this.
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No the trailer itself didn't hit at it, but one of the creators said that it was to be character driven. At first it wasn't, but Lucas came along and said he wanted to show things like Obi-Wan and Anakin's relationship as best friends, Anakin's relationship with his Padawan and also there was talk about some clone named Rex...
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Lucas said on that Blue Harvest Q&A that the Clone Wars would be more like Episode IV, more action, less character study.
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Which would be a colossal mistake. The Clone Wars are of an entirely different nature than the civil war of the OT. In the context of an engineered conflict, where the Jedi fight alongside the clones for the Sith, there’s little point in emphasizing heroism. All the civilizations our schmuck heroes liberate are doomed to be enslaved anyway.
The only sensible thing to do with this series is to wring out as much tragedy, political intrigue and romance as possible; the films would benefit enormously from such an approach. But if this is intended exclusively for 12 year olds…
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It is. And they want action... lots of it, or they'll lose interest in a hurry.
The live action series is being aimed at a more mature 'Star Wars meets the Sopranos' audience.
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Problem is, I'm not planning on watching the live-action series either:
1. Star Wars is about a family. If Palpatine, Anakin, Padme, Luke and/or Leia aren't involved, my interest is nil. I don't need to know about Porkins's childhood, or how Boba Fett got some singe on his armor.
2. Star Wars has no business being too mature. Are we meant to watch 100+ episodes of "Sopranos meets Deadwood" when Episode IV is as (gloriously) corny as The Wizard of Oz? How would this cohere?
Bottom line: Unless Clone Wars turns out to be the Batman: The Animated Series of this franchise, my SW experience ended with ROTS.
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Somehow I don't think Padme is going to be in it.
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and called TCW "Band of Brothers" with Jedi.
He hopes it's half as good as that masterpiece of television.
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Here is the latest from IGN:
Anakin Skywalker
Though he eventually strays from the path of good in Revenge of the Sith, Anakin Skywalker first establishes himself as the most fierce and fearless Jedi of them all during the three year-long Clone Wars. During the Jedi Council's conflict against Count Dooku and his separatist forces, Anakin rises as one of the galaxy's most legendary warriors.
As seen in the 2003 Clone Wars animated series, Anakin's most noteworthy feats during this time include a battle with Dark Jedi Asajj Ventress, and the liberation of the Nelvaanians from the Techno Union.
Though this new series promises to be more than just a rehash of events and stories we've already seen, we wouldn't mind seeing these pivotal moments again, albeit in glorious 3D, CGI-animated form. Either way, knowing what Anakin accomplishes during the crucial time period that this new series encompasses, we're confident that Anakin will play a huge role in the story's biggest action scenes and most important character pieces. Expect to see the emotionally-conflicted Anakin continue to bump heads with his mentor, Obi-Wan Kenobi, as Anakin takes greater steps towards the dark side. Perhaps most importantly, Anakin will be paired with his own Padawan, an all-new female character named Ahsoka Tano.
Ahsoka Tano
Little has been revealed about this brand-new addition to the Star Wars mythos, except for this brief description from StarWars.com:
"This young Togruta is eager to prove herself as a worthy Padawan to her bold Master, Anakin Skywalker. Able to wield a lightsaber and pilot a spacecraft with great talent, Ahsoka promises to become a worthy Jedi."
Considering there is no mention of the character in Revenge of the Sith, does that mean that Ahsoka doesn't make it out of the Clone Wars alive? If she doesn't, then one has to wonder if she isn't one of the first casualties as a result of Anakin's trip to the Dark Side. Such a dark turn of events would make for something recent Wars exploits have lacked: Very compelling drama.
Obi-Wan Kenobi
During the Clone Wars, Obi-Wan rises to become one of the most respected elder statesmen of the Jedi Council.
Even as his relationship with his one-time protégé, Anakin Skywalker, continues to splinter, Kenobi plays a tremendous role in the Jedi Council's war against Count Dooku and the separatists. It will be interesting to see Obi-Wan's place in the Jedi Council, and how his relationship with his fellow Knights unfolds prior to the tragic events of Episode III. Obi-Wan is a vital player in the Star Wars mythos, and we're confident this new series will be provide much Obi-Wan goodness.
Count Dooku
Seeing that Count Dooku played such a huge part in both Attack of the Clones and the 2003 animated series, it's safe to assume that this former Jedi-turned-Separatist leader and apprentice to Darth Sidious will once again serve as the series' most active villain.
Whether he's conspiring with Palpatine behind the scenes, teaching General Grevious the art of the lightsaber, capturing Obi-Wan Kenobi or simply testing Anakin at the behest of his master, we can't wait to see more of Count Dooku in action. This character represents the dark path that is ahead of Anakin Skywalker, one that is ripe with dramatic and action-packed potential.
The Droid General
The asthmatic, multi-armed badass returns to the Star Wars universe, this time playing a much larger role and much more sinister thorne in Anakin's side.
Judging by the teaser for the series over at StarWars.com, Grievous seems to share much of the villain spotlight with his peer, Count Dooku. What schemes are the two conspiring together for our Jedis to deal with? We'll have to wait until the show airs to know for certain, but we can assume it involves lightsabers and Jedis getting FUBAR'd by 'em.
Mace Windu
As the Jedi master who leads the Republic's forces in Episdode II's Battle of Geonosis, Mace Windu seems poised make a huge impact in this new series. Windu prides himself as not only an incredible warrior (with or without his lightsaber, but also as a diplomat. It should be fascinating to watch this character deal with these conflicting sides of his personality as the Clone Wars rage on to the point of no return.
Padme Amidala
Queen Amidala promises to be one of the most versatile characters in the new animated series, largely because she plays several key roles in the saga: Republican Diplomat, secret wife to Anakin Skywalker and occasional participant in some sort of action.
Padme's secret correspondence with her husband throughout the Clone Wars should shed valuable light on their relationship, leading up to Anakin's eventual decent into madness following her tragic death. Likewise, she should offer valuable insight into the politics behind the Separatist movemen, and the Republic's attempts to squash it.
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So it seems that the central characters will be driving the plot, at least that is how it is being marketed. LFL has said its about the Clone Wars, but that isn't what I'm seeing. The thorn still in my side is character progression being KEPT out the films, so we could get it via cartoons.
Yes, I said kept.
IMO, Lucas chose not make that important until he could find another way to make MORE money off it. Why else would he leave it out when he was just mostly 'playing-around' for the first two PT movies?
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