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MsLanna
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3/30 4:15am
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RE: Clone Wars 3D movie/series and how it affects your view of the PT
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Depending on how good it is (yes, I liked what I saw so far) I might ending up having to accept that PT is Sw, too. 
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GARTH_MAUL
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3/30 8:37am
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ShaneP posted:
I'm not saying there was no depiction of that "friendship", just that the execution of it was lackluster or grating.
And I'm really not going to answer your suggestion that it's Kenobi's fault Lucas didn't cover his bases in the script.
That's exactly how your post sounds and it's a desperate suggestion.
heh heh.
One of my biggest complaints is the discrepancy of OT Kenobi and PT Kenobi; really, I expected Kenobi to be like Qui-Gon Jinn, based on Kenobi's own comments to Luke.
And I agree that another issue is the friendship between Anakin and Obi-Wan - I think Lucas does a good job with what he does show, but one film (TPM) obviously has no relationship-building between them.
Having the opportunity to show their relationship in the crucible of the Clone Wars will be a good thing, I think.
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ShaneP
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Having the opportunity to show their relationship in the crucible of the Clone Wars will be a good thing, I think.
I agree with that. To be fair, I did think the first of RotS displayed their friendship nicely. It was AotC that really spoiled it for me. If we can't get it from the films, it should come from somewhere.
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WookieeWarrior9
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3/30 3:04pm
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I think this will only enhance my enjoyment of the movies. I remember reading some article where one person on a popular movie site was complaining about how this should have all been in the movies. I can't help but laugh because you can only show so much in a span of 2 and a half hours. George did what he had to do in those movies and now we get to explore all these other little side stories and characters. I can't wait.
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GARTH_MAUL
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Heh, actually I've argued that exact point before.
I think Lucas really could have combined much of TPM and AOTC into one movie, have the 2nd movie be The Clone Wars, and the third would be more or less like ROTS (because obviously things have to fall out a certain way).
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WookieeWarrior9
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3/30 6:12pm
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He could've given the CW it's own trilogy. What's done is done and I'm very pleased with how it's all going to work out.
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Obi-Chron
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I'm seriously lamenting the decision to slide Sx3's thread from the prequel board to here.
The new series starts with a BIG SCREEN movie, totally negating its inclusion on the Small Screen Star Wars EU boards. And since GL is behind 'both' the movie and the series, the new toons (movie and series) are DEFINITELY NOT EU. There is Lucas, and there is EU, and never the two shall meet. Sx3 was at ground truth with his original post.
Putting this thread on 'small scree/EU' violates the fundamental dogma behind what is and is not canon.
Big boos on this switcheroo.
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SithStarSlayer
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Date Posted:
4/1 8:41pm
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WHY DID THIS THREAD GET LEFT FOR DEAD IN HERE?WHAT IS THE POINT OF ASKING A MOD FOR PERMISSION TO POST A TOPIC; AS IT RELATES TO A FORUM, ONLY TO HAVE IT MOVED TO A PLACE THAT IT DOES NOT BELONG? GL IS WRITING AND PRODUCING THIS MOVIE, I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT SUBSEQUENT EPISODES ON TV. THIS THREAD TIES DIRECTLY TO THE PT (SPECIFICALLY ANAKIN AND KENOBI'S RELATIONSHIP) AND HOW IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN WRITTEN AND WASN'T... [/B]
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GARTH_MAUL
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4/1 9:07pm
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What is the point of posting in yellow caps? 
I thought the main problem was that we were getting off topic, I was also somewhat surprised to see it moved.
However, the PT board is for the Prequel Trilogy....I think it's really going to be one of those "grey area" threads that could be in Saga, SSSW, or PT.
If the main discussion is going to be a reflection on the PT and particularly ROTS in the light of The Clone Wars, then overall it should be in PT I think.
We'll have enough general discussion here on TCW.
I don't think the G-Level Canon argument is enough to put it into the PT, unless maybe SSSW becomes a sub-forum of The Movies.
Let's not forget that the "movie" is really going to be a theatrical release of the first 3 episodes of TCW, and will not (likely) be repeated. It is far more of a television, episodic show than it is part of The Saga.
And this is really the first time Lucas has been this heavily involved in anything non-OT or PT-related, so we don't really have any great precedent to work with.
He had influence into Labyrinth of Evil, the ROTS novelization (heavy influence), and Genndy's Clone Wars 1.0, but I don't think they're considered "G-Level" canon.
These stories will be.
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SithStarSlayer
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It is being released in theaters, as a movie that fits BETWEEN two of the PT films.
This isn't about canon so much, but people have argued about GL's involvement. He's writing, directing, marketing Anakin's new padawan, and its coming out in theaters. A theatrical release means it isn't fit for the Small Screen forum, no matter what they do with it or to it, after the fact.
It's the MODs' job to keep the thread on track.
So by appearance, they moved it... rather than moderate it?
AFTER I got permission to post it there, no less.
No wonder the boards are sooo slow.
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GARTH_MAUL
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SithStarSlayer posted:
A theatrical release means it isn't fit for the Small Screen forum, no matter what they do with it or to it, after the fact.
Sorry, but you've got "3D movie/series" in your thread title. Nothing like this has ever been done before; Futurama and Family Guy did similar things, but in a straight-to-DVD format.
90% of The Clone Wars will be television episodes.
If you want to argue about the inclusion of The Clone Wars movie in the movie section, that's fine, but let's not make TCW something that it's not.
I think you've got a stronger argument with the content of this thread - specifically, how the new series affects how we see the events of the PT.
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EternalEmpire
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I've come to a sort of Star Wars zen. If they make it I'll generally go see it or read it. I've simply invested too much time and energy in the property not too. And overall I am pleased with what has come from the Prequels though like most of us I have many complaints. But in the end it does not chance much really.
I doubt this will change my view of the PT but I am looking forward to being entertained by some cool battling and hopefully a few interesting character and story developments. I admit I am a little tired of the clone wars era right now, but perhaps this will reinvigorate me. I really did love the first clone wars series, I generally thought the battles were better in that series than most of the ones shown in the prequels,
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maderic
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IF you talk about a discrepancy between prequel Kenobi and Episode IV Old Ben, I agree--there is one. It's there, however, because he's had nearly two decades to change his thoughts. He realizes, with Qui-Gon's help, that the way the Jedi Council saw things was wrong. The Order was too strict, too overbearing, and blinded by itself. The Order fell because it deserved to; it couldn't see what was right under their noses the entire time. One would think that if you held a rigid set of beliefs, then saw everyone you ever knew or loved die at that hands of the person you thought of as your brother, you're likely to get a change of ideals after a while...
Maybe it was just the hot suns.
Anyhow... as far as the Clone Wars show is concerned, it's already changing my perception of the prequels in regards to Anakin and I don't like it. The decision to give him an apprentice is quite possibly the worst one ever devised by official sources, save for maybe still treating Splinter of the Mind's Eye as cannon, and I feel it only cheapens the entire saga and weakens Anakin's character. I hope the show changes my mind, but I have my doubts.
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Ha, I've thought the same thing. Yoda is borderline insane at times in ESB and I don't think it was all necessarily a ploy to see Luke's reactions. Old Ben was a little crazy too. I think the isolation got the best of them at times.
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GARTH_MAUL
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maderic posted:
Anyhow... as far as the Clone Wars show is concerned, it's already changing my perception of the prequels in regards to Anakin and I don't like it. The decision to give him an apprentice is quite possibly the worst one ever devised by official sources, save for maybe still treating Splinter of the Mind's Eye as cannon, and I feel it only cheapens the entire saga and weakens Anakin's character. I hope the show changes my mind, but I have my doubts.
I'm with you guys on giving Anakin a padawan; I assume the Jedi way is not to have someone who's only recently become a Jedi Knight suddenly start training others in the way of the Force.
It's a big gamble and is obviously the biggest "twist" so far, but it could pay off.
However, there's 2 things that might work in Anakin's favour:
(1) He's the Chosen One, and like the Council tested him in his assignment to protect Padme in AOTC, they think that having to look after a Padawan might help mature him;
(2) The Clone Wars have killed off a whole bunch of Jedi - there's probably more Padawans to go around than there are Masters to properly train them - we've already seen the Padawan Brigade in the SW:Republic comic series, so it's not too much of a stretch I think.
The main difficulty is obviously that it was never mentioned anywhere else in ROTS or the Clone Wars campaign.
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