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The2ndQuest 
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Date Posted: 4/16 9:59am Subject: RE: General Grievous in the SW: Clone Wars
I think we're gonna see a balance between the Jedi-killer and mustache twirling in the series. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect to see Grievous collecting a couple lightsabers, so they're gonna hopefully back that up with him in action, while still giving us some absurdly overthetop villain lines to quote!

(I will say the movie Grievous is more quotable than his previous animated incarnation, with sole exception to the awesomely cold "You're lucky they want you alive...")

"Thyme too ah-band-un sheep! Mwa-ha-ha-HA!"

 

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snowspeeder_gunner 
Registered: Apr '07
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Date Posted: 4/16 10:58am Subject: RE: General Grievous in the SW: Clone Wars
The2ndQuest posted:


"Thyme too ah-band-un sheep! Mwa-ha-ha-HA!"


Haha, it took me entirely too long to figure out that you weren't talking about sheep. tongue

 

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The2ndQuest 
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Date Posted: 4/16 11:32am Subject: RE: General Grievous in the SW: Clone Wars
cow

 

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Gharlane 
Registered: Dec '00
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Date Posted: 4/16 4:25pm Subject: RE: General Grievous in the SW: Clone Wars
GARTH_MAUL posted:
But no one will ever be as fearsome as Vader, although Maul came close. Why have another simple "fearsome" villain?

Because you need something to give the Conderacy alittle bit more edge and a hint of credibility as a threat in the Clone Wars especially when you have an organization composed of mostly cowardly business types and rather ineffective droids. Grievous was/is perfect especially in the tie-ins. Brutal, savage, capable of taking on multiple Jedi, he was what Maul could have been if he hadn't been offed by Obi-Wan.

 

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Tyi-Maet_Nefer 
Registered: Jun '05
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Date Posted: 4/16 8:49pm Subject: RE: General Grievous in the SW: Clone Wars
Just a thought, but do you think Obi-Wan will face him at all in this series? It would add another depth behind his casual "Hello there" — now one of the most famous lines.

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Emperor_Dantius 
Registered: Feb '05
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Date Posted: 4/17 8:27am Subject: RE: General Grievous in the SW: Clone Wars
Looking at the trailer, I have a feeling that Ventress may be the main villain doing the action, and GG may mostly be involved in the 'plot' stuff. And he even demonstrate while Mace refers to him as a coward in ROTS. Which makes me wonder why he would be feared so much if he himself is a coward according to Mace? confused

 

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WookieeWarrior9 
Registered: Jun '07
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Date Posted: 4/17 12:08pm Subject: RE: General Grievous in the SW: Clone Wars
Emperor_Dantius posted:
Which makes me wonder why he would be feared so much if he himself is a coward according to Mace? confused


He can fight with 4 lightsabers.

 

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The2ndQuest 
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Date Posted: 4/17 12:16pm Subject: RE: General Grievous in the SW: Clone Wars
Plus, who knows? That cough might be contagious... wink

 

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Darth_Foo 
Registered: Feb '03
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Date Posted: 4/17 2:38pm Subject: RE: General Grievous in the SW: Clone Wars - Date Edited: 4/17 2:39pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Darth_Foo
hey all,

i was under the impression that when anakin and grievous met in ep3 it was for the first time. do any of you know if they will meet face-to-face in the series?

 

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Jango_Fettish 
Registered: Aug '02
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Date Posted: 4/17 2:47pm Subject: RE: General Grievous in the SW: Clone Wars
Darth_Foo posted:
hey all,

i was under the impression that when anakin and grievous met in ep3 it was for the first time. do any of you know if they will meet face-to-face in the series?


I hope not. I really hope not. And we have not seen anything to suggest they do.

Anakin fighting Dooku in the series is kind of silly, but not that big of a deal (as, in RotS, Anakin's line about the "last time we met" could be anytime - but it will always be obvious it was originally a reference to AOTC.) But if Anakin meets Grievous before RotS, that would be ridiculous.

I've always felt that Obi-Wan should meet Grievous in the series - they seem like they had met before in the film.

 

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Tyi-Maet_Nefer 
Registered: Jun '05
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Date Posted: 4/17 9:31pm Subject: RE: General Grievous in the SW: Clone Wars
I basically agree with that, J_F. There's no way Grievous could have fought Anakin previously. I mean, how would this make sense: "I was expecting someone with your reputation to be a little ... older." - GG

Obi-Wan facing him, on the other hand . . .



WookieeWarrior9 posted:
Emperor_Dantius posted:
Which makes me wonder why he would be feared so much if he himself is a coward according to Mace? confused


He can fight with 4 lightsabers.
I think we all know that if Grievous is losing, he runs (his fight with Obi-Wan in ROTS shows this first-hand). However, if he is winning (95-99% of the time I would guess) he's anything but a coward. There's hardly anybody that would challenge Grievous during the CW ... which is why his cowardly side would hardly ever be shown — except to those who do challenge him (Mace).

 

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Darth-Wyrm 
Registered: Apr '05
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Date Posted: 4/18 2:23am Subject: RE: General Grievous in the SW: Clone Wars - Date Edited: 4/18 2:25am (2 edits total) Edited By: Darth-Wyrm
I generally think it's a silly argument to say that GL couldn't make the villains in the prequels that fearsome because they couldn't live up to Vader anyway. That's really a cop out.

Vader is the most fearsome villain in film. Many, including myself, believe that and it's already ingrained in our heads. But that doesn't mean GL couldn't have made villains like Maul, Dooku and GG also fearsome. Or should every sci-fi/fantasy movie just give up on creating an imposing villain just b/c he/she can't be Vader? Come on.

Plus, Maul was a very good character until they needlessly killed him off. Leading up to TPM there was a lot of interest and intrigue on Maul and fans wanted to know as much about him as possible.

But after TPM, the villains really came up short. Dooku was introduced out of nowhere and frankly, just wasn't that interesting. It would have been far more interesting if we had actually seen him as a respected Jedi fighting alongside Qui-Gon and Yoda. Then seeing him as a villain would have meant something.

Same with GG. He just pops up and really doesn't do a whole lot but get shot (though I thought he was pretty cool in the CW shorts).

Anyway, I really hope they develop both GG and Dooku more in this series. Give them some depth and give me a reason to care about them as villains. A hero is only as good as his villain, and I really think that a big reason why some of the prequels fell flat was because the villains were mediocre.

 

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GrandWarlord 
Registered: Nov '03
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Date Posted: 4/22 7:41pm Subject: RE: General Grievous in the SW: Clone Wars
It kinda surprises me in other threads/forums how Vader and Grievous are compared to each other. Other then them both being a little on the cyborg side, they are very different. And there is not much comparison beyond that. The thoughts on the sepratists using Grievous as a testbed, on cyborg equipment, I just don't really agree with that. They wanted Grievous because he was a great warrior on his homeworld. They orchestrated the shuttle accident to gain his superior fighting skills, but yet in ROTS not much of that is seen. At most it's seen maybe when Kenobi and him are hand to hand fighting on the platform where his fighter is located. In the original clone wars shows, his lightsaber fighting is awesome. In ROTS he's just very showy. Not much is seen with him, when it comes to skills.

I'm hoping for a much more skillful, darker Grievous in this series. I'm looking for the type of Grievous we see in the deleted scene of ROTS where he kills Shaak-Ti. I want to see that darkness, but I want to see his fighting skills also. I want to see him destroy jedi instantly, with no hesitation. I want to see the jedi put up one heck of a fight, a major challenge, but he toys with them in combat, and finally delivers the final blows. Picking up the lightsaber of the dead jedi after it's over.

 

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Darth-Wyrm 
Registered: Apr '05
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Date Posted: 4/22 9:04pm Subject: RE: General Grievous in the SW: Clone Wars
GrandWarlord posted:
I'm hoping for a much more skillful, darker Grievous in this series. I'm looking for the type of Grievous we see in the deleted scene of ROTS where he kills Shaak-Ti. I want to see that darkness, but I want to see his fighting skills also. I want to see him destroy jedi instantly, with no hesitation. I want to see the jedi put up one heck of a fight, a major challenge, but he toys with them in combat, and finally delivers the final blows. Picking up the lightsaber of the dead jedi after it's over.


Yes please!

 

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Darthhelmut 
Registered: Sep '04
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Date Posted: 4/23 12:39pm Subject: RE: General Grievous in the SW: Clone Wars
GG = Biggest contradiction in SW.

Robotics makes him more agile = Vader's robotics make him a lumbering shadow of his former self.....makes no sense.

 

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