Author Topic: Upcoming Clone Wars Series... What's the difference?
Brendukoo 
Registered: Apr '08
Date Posted: 4/15 8:54am Subject: Upcoming Clone Wars Series... What's the difference?
Greetings all;

First time poster, long time lurker happy

With the all the upcoming SW content due out in the next year or so, I figured now was a good a time as any to start posting. My first question though has to deal with the upcoming Clone Wars series. In short, what's going to be the difference between it, and the previously released Clone Wars series that was a cartoon? I mean, I have both DVD's of the Clone Wars cartoons at home.

So why make another?


Is the story going to be that drastically different?

 

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_Sublime_Skywalker_  2484 posts
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Date Posted: 4/15 9:26am Subject: RE: Upcoming Clone Wars Series... What's the difference?
Yes, yes it will.

It's going to have like a movie plot, that follows most of the story I'm guessing. CW I and II was mainly just Jedi on planets kicking ***.

It's going to be amazing, and just by the looks of it pure eye candy for SW fans.

 

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JediMasterGuff  9607 posts
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Date Posted: 4/15 11:54am Subject: RE: Upcoming Clone Wars Series... What's the difference?
The previous Clone Wars series were twenty 3-minute shorts and five 12-minute shorts, made in 2D style. They were pretty much just action sequences.

The new series will be full 22-minute episodes in 3D style. Given the longer run time, you can expect proper storylines and characterization.

 

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iLoveAnakin7  5161 posts
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Date Posted: 4/15 1:04pm Subject: RE: Upcoming Clone Wars Series... What's the difference?
A lot of the show will have 22 min. episodes that focus solely on characters that didn't get any previous focus in the movies or in the old cartoon, like Kit Fisto, and sometimes episodes will just be about clone troopers and no one else. Things like that.

The previous animated short was rather rushed I guess you could say, and this one will be a lot more in depth with regards to plotlines and character interactions, and give us more insight into the war overall. happy

Three years of war is a lot to tell, and I'm a little sad that they aren't going back to the very beginning of the war right after episode 2 ends, and taking it all the way through, right up until the beginning of 3. Oh well.

I'm excited. grin

 

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Cid  130 posts
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Date Posted: 4/15 7:11pm Subject: RE: Upcoming Clone Wars Series... What's the difference?
iLoveAnakin7 posted:
Three years of war is a lot to tell, and I'm a little sad that they aren't going back to the very beginning of the war right after episode 2 ends, and taking it all the way through, right up until the beginning of 3. Oh well.


Interesting point. What happens if the series goes 5 years or so?

 

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WookieeWarrior9  321 posts
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Date Posted: 4/15 8:26pm Subject: RE: Upcoming Clone Wars Series... What's the difference?
Cid posted:
iLoveAnakin7 posted:
Three years of war is a lot to tell, and I'm a little sad that they aren't going back to the very beginning of the war right after episode 2 ends, and taking it all the way through, right up until the beginning of 3. Oh well.


Interesting point. What happens if the series goes 5 years or so?


Well that's exactly what George is committed to doing. They're already working on scripts for Season 3 right now and the last time he said anything, they were already done with a number of the Season 2 episodes.

 

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Tyi-Maet_Nefer  17624 posts
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Date Posted: 4/15 9:29pm Subject: RE: Upcoming Clone Wars Series... What's the difference?
Welcome to the forums, Brendukoo. It's good to have you with us. grin So...




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Being a visually driven person, the above is the first thing that gets my blood boiling with excitement.

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_Sublime_Skywalker_  2484 posts
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Date Posted: 4/15 9:35pm Subject: RE: Upcoming Clone Wars Series... What's the difference?
New characters, longer screentime, more depth and story. Beautiful animation.

Really, George is already working on a third season of CW?! Oh man, I'm so happy to hear that. I really thought it would be just a one season thing, like a little side project like CW I and II. I didn't doubt the successfulness of the show, but rather Lucas's commitment.

 

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Darth_Garak  372 posts
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Date Posted: 4/16 6:21am Subject: RE: Upcoming Clone Wars Series... What's the difference?
One things keep nagging about this thing (aside from the padawan thing). Anakin is shown with the scar (which we know he got in DoR) which woujld suggest the story takes place after DoR BUT the clones we see here are in Phase I armour while those in DoR were in Phase II armor. It's not a very big continuity error and we can probably retcon it but...I hate the thought of having to retcon something (no matter how many retcons have been done, I still hate the need for them).

 

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ObiWan506  25371 posts
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Date Posted: 4/16 10:36am Subject: RE: Upcoming Clone Wars Series... What's the difference?
Another example of EU getting mixed up with itself.

 

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The2ndQuest  33649 posts
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Date Posted: 4/16 10:56am Subject: RE: Upcoming Clone Wars Series... What's the difference? - Date Edited: 4/16 10:58am (2 edits total) Edited By: The2ndQuest
Not really an error- the Phase II armor didn't go into use until about 24 months into the war- it's quite plausible that not every unit was upgraded only 6-7 months later. Also ARC Troopers and Clone Commandos still had helmets that resembled the Phase I armor more than the Phase II. And plus, by the time of ROTS, there's such a mismatch of armor styles and components, I think anything is really fair game, armor-wise. wink

Plus, at C4, they said they wanted to show the transition from Phase I to Phase II (as well as armored-Obi-Wan from Clone Wars GT to the unarmored Obi-Wan of ROTS), so their inclusion here makes sense for what they're trying to accomplish.

 

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Brendukoo 
Registered: Apr '08
Date Posted: 4/16 11:26am Subject: RE: Upcoming Clone Wars Series... What's the difference?
Yeah, I suppose there is a difference.

I personally thought the old cartoons/DVD's, other than the fact that the animation was a little so-so were actually really good. A lot of you say that it was "just action scenes".

Well there were quite a few, but we're talking about a war here are we not? It also gave us the chance to first see the true power of a jedi that they couldn't pull off in live action. (i.e. Yoda taking down ships using the force, or Mace beating down 100's of droids at once)

Plus, there was a ton of character development and scenes. Such as how 3-PO got his gold coating. Or how Anakin goes through the Knight trials. We also see a lot of interaction between Anakin and Obi-wan in "ordinary" situations which was nice. Like the scene where we see Anakin, "feeding off the living force". I thought that was brilliant.

I just hope the new series/movie brings more to the table, and isn't just a re-hash in prettier form.

 

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Jedimarine  3931 posts
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Date Posted: 4/16 11:51am Subject: RE: Upcoming Clone Wars Series... What's the difference?
I hope the story is good, cause I despise the art style...anorexic avatars....eesh.

I truly hope, even though it's animated, they attempt to keep it in the realm of "realism".

The cartoon got a little too "Samurai Jack" overboard at times.

 

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WookieeWarrior9  321 posts
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Date Posted: 4/16 12:14pm Subject: RE: Upcoming Clone Wars Series... What's the difference?
_Sublime_Skywalker_ posted:
New characters, longer screentime, more depth and story. Beautiful animation.

Really, George is already working on a third season of CW?! Oh man, I'm so happy to hear that. I really thought it would be just a one season thing, like a little side project like CW I and II. I didn't doubt the successfulness of the show, but rather Lucas's commitment.


Yeah, it was on one of the many articles and interviews that popped up around the time of ShoWest. I couldn't find it if I tried, but he mentioned that, along with being committed to 5 seasons. He's mentioned working on Season 3 here, but it's not the same article I saw where he also mentioned being done with some of the season 2 episodes.

http://entertainmentnow.wordpress.com/2008/03/17/george-lucas-star-wars-the-clone-wars-interview/

And JediMarine, the show is keeping with film style physics. That's my only complaint with the original, and it was a big complaint at that.

 

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Tyi-Maet_Nefer  17624 posts
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Date Posted: 4/16 8:42pm Subject: RE: Upcoming Clone Wars Series... What's the difference?
In the article you linked to above, WW, Lucas is quoted as saying: "The TV series is exactly like the movies, exactly. I mean, you can see it in the clip. It’s basically just the movies only with cartoon characters."

This could definitely indicate that he wants to keep it real.

 

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vong333  1613 posts
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Date Posted: 4/17 10:11am Subject: RE: Upcoming Clone Wars Series... What's the difference?
Well, my biggest thing will be is that the Clone Wars is the perfect canvass to tell the kinds of stories that he couldn't do in Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith. So die hard eu loving fans ain't going to like this too much. Jst read the gizmundo site where they got the trailer up and you'll see the negative respone. thinking

GT style was critized by many die hard fans. If you notice I said die hards. The average kid really liked it in fact after GT was shafted with 3 minutes for 19 episodes, 1 five minute episode and 5 twelve minute epiosdes, the series did fantastically well with numerous Emmy and Annie nominations and victories, not to mention the success that it brought to the carton network, GT, and GL's galaxy, plus it did help GL decide that the animated series that he was doing was going to be in "The Clone Wars Era"! Now flash forward to Dark Horses Clone War Adventure books volume 1-10. Their have the same 2-d style art, exaggerated, with the bright colors and now even thoughs are being nominted for an Eisner award for Best Children books and have sold extremelly well for Dark Horse, accroding to Jeremy Barlow.

Now, this new series has its work cut out. This series will have to prove that it is way better than anything that was done before. With the movie release and tv release, these have to score well with the box office and tv ratings, get nomintaed and win some of the industry awards (Oscar,Emmy, and Annie) and do very well with fans. That is a tall order to follow. thinking

The good news though is that unlike the previous series, this one is made accessebile to everyone, and one way or another a lot of people will see the Clone Wars. Whoever thought about the movie release was a smart person, cause that alone will bring in many fans, plus the release of tie-products like ROTS. applause

I'm excited becuase perosnally, in the end, the best era regardless will be the Clone Wars. Think about it, it has been covered in the movies, novels, comic books, video games, toys, short stories, 2-d animation and now 3-d animation with many more coming. No other era will have that kind of diversification and success. Not Legacy, not post NJO, nor the vaunted KOTOR era. The Clone Wars! The sad part is like I said before, many die hard eu loving Legacy, Rebellion, Dark Times, KOTOR, del rey hating fans are going to be against this. rolling_eyes

 

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