Author Topic: How about a story-arc that takes place 20 yrs before TPM?
DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR  399 posts
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Date Posted: 5/3 5:22am Subject: How about a story-arc that takes place 20 yrs before TPM? - Date Edited: 5/3 5:47am (5 edits total) Edited By: DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR
I'm not sure if this was a topic before, but I would love to see what happened prior to the events of The Phantom Menace, too. A younger Qui-Gon Jinn and Mace Windu would be interesting to see. Dooku and his rebellious ideals towards the Council, and who Sifo-Dyas really was. The behind the scenes scheming of Plagueis and Sidious, and their power of creating life. And then in much later years show the beginning training of Obi-Wan Kenobi with Yoda, as well as Sidious teaching Maul. The Mandalorian Mercenaries. Grievous before his disfigurement. There is so much to see, and I hope Lucas delivers on this. I just think the Skywalkers will be overexposed to the point where we'll get sick of them. What do you all think?

 

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Humble_Jedi  242 posts
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Date Posted: 5/3 5:47am Subject: RE: How about a story-arc that takes place 20 yrs before TPM?
I'm actually not that interested... Taking another look at the Clone Wars is fine with me, but pre-TPM stuff... I don't know. It would just be a story that leads up to a situation that we already know. In a sense this was the same when the Prequels were made, but we didn't know the story, only how it would end. Showing this pre-TPM material would only be a visual confirmation of facts we already know, and it wouldn't really add to the overall story. There would also be little room for unexpected or 'new' developments to show as well. No big surprises...

I would much rather see a focus on a whole new era, such as the Dark Times (upcoming LAS) or the KotOR era.

 

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DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR  399 posts
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Date Posted: 5/3 5:50am Subject: RE: How about a story-arc that takes place 20 yrs before TPM? - Date Edited: 5/3 5:50am (1 edits total) Edited By: DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR
Humble_Jedi posted:
I'm actually not that interested... Taking another look at the Clone Wars is fine with me, but pre-TPM stuff... I don't know. It would just be a story that leads up to a situation that we already know. In a sense this was the same when the Prequels were made, but we didn't know the story, only how it would end. Showing this pre-TPM material would only be a visual confirmation of facts we already know, and it wouldn't really add to the overall story. There would also be little room for unexpected or 'new' developments to show as well. No big surprises...

I would much rather see a focus on a whole new era, such as the Dark Times (upcoming LAS) or the KotOR era.


Yeah, but it'll give more credit to the characters that were hardly known in the prequels. We don't know anything about most of these characters other than they were the ones that found Anakin.

 

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Jango_Fettish  786 posts
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Date Posted: 5/3 7:44am Subject: RE: How about a story-arc that takes place 20 yrs before TPM?
If I could choose one SW story to be told, it would be the adventurers of Dooku and Qui-Gon as master and apprentice. I think that relationship would be fascinating to see, as they are both rebellious but in different ways.

 

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DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR  399 posts
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Date Posted: 5/3 10:18am Subject: RE: How about a story-arc that takes place 20 yrs before TPM?
That's what I mean. You could start off with Qui-Gon, Mace, Sifo-Dyas and whomever else as Yoda's apprentices and end the series right when Anakin is born. Nobody can say that they don't want to know if Plagueis played a part in the immaculate conception.

 

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Date Posted: 5/3 11:12am Subject: RE: How about a story-arc that takes place 20 yrs before TPM?
Jango_Fettish posted:
If I could choose one SW story to be told, it would be the adventurers of Dooku and Qui-Gon as master and apprentice. I think that relationship would be fascinating to see, as they are both rebellious but in different ways.


I would love to see that too- the short glimpse we got of that relationship in the Legacy of the Jedi book was really quite excellent- the coldness of Dooku and the heart of Qui-Gon. Really helped show why Qui-Gon was the type of Jedi Master to Obi-Wan that he was.

 

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Cid  130 posts
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Date Posted: 5/3 2:55pm Subject: RE: How about a story-arc that takes place 20 yrs before TPM?
DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR posted:
That's what I mean. You could start off with Qui-Gon, Mace, Sifo-Dyas and whomever else as Yoda's apprentices and end the series right when Anakin is born. Nobody can say that they don't want to know if Plagueis played a part in the immaculate conception.


I think that horse has left the gate. I don't think there's a lot of people who care anymore. Had it been part of ROTS, maybe. But, like Sifo-Dyas, Plagueis is just another subplot that went nowhere.

 

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Date Posted: 5/3 4:10pm Subject: RE: How about a story-arc that takes place 20 yrs before TPM?
And also, given the cancellation of the previously announced Plagueis novel, it doesn't seem like Lucas is interested in elaborating too much upon that backstory's mysteries, outside of Plagueis' species.

However, seeing this would be pretty cool, I must admit...


 

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DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR  399 posts
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Date Posted: 5/3 5:33pm Subject: RE: How about a story-arc that takes place 20 yrs before TPM? - Date Edited: 5/3 5:35pm (1 edits total) Edited By: DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR
The2ndQuest posted:
And also, given the cancellation of the previously announced Plagueis novel, it doesn't seem like Lucas is interested in elaborating too much upon that backstory's mysteries, outside of Plagueis' species.

However, seeing this would be pretty cool, I must admit...





Maybe Lucas doesn't want this time period touched because he wants to do it himself so there are no contradictions that could ruin what he has a mind. You guys ever think of that? Would you have him make more stories that center around something we already know, or make new ones that take place way before all this happens?

 

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Cid  130 posts
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Date Posted: 5/3 8:26pm Subject: RE: How about a story-arc that takes place 20 yrs before TPM?
*yawn*

Sorry, DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR, i'm just not interested. I'd rather see holes that should have been filled during the PT plugged up rather than something that doesn't need it. Palpetine's youth and training isn't very important to me, frankly. Outside of a couple lines that turned into throwaways, it's not important to the big pic of the SW saga. We don't need to know where Cardinal Richelieu came from, we don't need to know how Iago felt about his momma, and we don't really need any more information on Darth Siddeus than we already have. I'd argue that too much information would ruin the character, frankly.

I don't mean to be crapping on your ideas, though. Sorry if that's what it seems like I'm doing.

 

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DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR  399 posts
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Date Posted: 5/4 2:22pm Subject: RE: How about a story-arc that takes place 20 yrs before TPM? - Date Edited: 5/4 2:26pm (1 edits total) Edited By: DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR
I think you're wrong, Cid. Not only should they focus on this era, they should elaborate what the Jedi Order really was during it, which was the hey day of their time. If you ask me, the prequels sort of hurt the image of the Jedi. Besides Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, Mace and Yoda, the other Jedi looked like a bunch of incompetents that did nothing to appear great as they should have been. The entire Jedi council was a joke except for the ones mentioned above. The regulars were nothing more than extras who were merely shown just to be killed off on screen, with no credibility that would make us care. I mean four Jedi, and that's it? C'mon! You mean to tell me they are the only ones that appear to have an idea of what to do in all this? Why wasn't there a lead female jedi? What about showing another alien jedi that isn't a master run around and help the main heroes? And one that isn't a midget, too. There is so much to see in these former years, and not showing it only hurts the jedi even more so. The problem with most fans like you you'd rather see characters played out like hell then see others that need more fleshing out. Oh, well. It's too bad many don't feel the same as I do.

 

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Cid  130 posts
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Date Posted: 5/4 5:17pm Subject: RE: How about a story-arc that takes place 20 yrs before TPM?
DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR posted:
I think you're wrong, Cid. Not only should they focus on this era, they should elaborate what the Jedi Order really was during it, which was the hey day of their time. If you ask me, the prequels sort of hurt the image of the Jedi. Besides Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, Mace and Yoda, the other Jedi looked like a bunch of incompetents that did nothing to appear great as they should have been. The entire Jedi council was a joke except for the ones mentioned above. The regulars were nothing more than extras who were merely shown just to be killed off on screen, with no credibility that would make us care. I mean four Jedi, and that's it? C'mon! You mean to tell me they are the only ones that appear to have an idea of what to do in all this? Why wasn't there a lead female jedi? What about showing another alien jedi that isn't a master run around and help the main heroes? And one that isn't a midget, too. There is so much to see in these former years, and not showing it only hurts the jedi even more so. The problem with most fans like you you'd rather see characters played out like hell then see others that need more fleshing out. Oh, well. It's too bad many don't feel the same as I do.


If they are gonna do that, why not go whole hog and do one set in Darth Bane's time. Or around the time period of KOTOR.

 

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DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR  399 posts
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Date Posted: 5/5 12:39pm Subject: RE: How about a story-arc that takes place 20 yrs before TPM?
[quote=Cid

If they are gonna do that, why not go whole hog and do one set in Darth Bane's time. Or around the time period of KOTOR.[/quote]

That would be cool, too. I just think they should show more of jedi adventures of the past then focus on any more clone war era. At least til the animated season ends.

 

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Cid  130 posts
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Date Posted: 5/5 10:10pm Subject: RE: How about a story-arc that takes place 20 yrs before TPM?
OK in that case i agree wholeheartedly.

 

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Blackfryar  71 posts
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Date Posted: 5/6 3:00am Subject: RE: How about a story-arc that takes place 20 yrs before TPM?
at a point they were talking about the adventures of a young yoda, about the time of the fall of the sith empire.

 

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DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR  399 posts
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Date Posted: 5/6 12:32pm Subject: RE: How about a story-arc that takes place 20 yrs before TPM?
Blackfryar posted:
at a point they were talking about the adventures of a young yoda, about the time of the fall of the sith empire.


This is right about Darth Bane's time, right? It would be cool to see a movie about the Sith Empire. But, this is way before Yoda is even born, right? Unless I'm confused, the Sith ruled one thousand years before the Clone Wars, but it's possible they exaggerated the count.

 

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