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black_saber
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That would be awsome enough has been cover for the Knight of the old republic/ Tales of the Jedi.
Edit: although I would like to see the Knights of the old Republic Era/tales of the jedi era. Its just it would be real cool to see the Ancesters of the Sith and Jedis dating back 10,000 or 20,000 years before The Phantom menace.
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Cid
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vong333 posted:
I have a very hard time believing that GL is going to do anything before or after his 6 movie epic.
He never ruled it out, the way he did post ROTJ stuff. Quite the opposite, apparently...
Celebration III posted:
A fan asked the chances of exploring the KOTOR-era Jedi or the origins of the Sith on TV, and Lucas stated that if the television projects are successful, he would examine the possibility of moving elsewhere in the saga.
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vong333
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Cid-thats nice and dandy...really, I remember when he made that cuase I was their at C-4, but when I see it, I will believe it. Too me, its way out of charatcer. The clone wars is still in the minds of many, and he can really reap benefits with it. The movie will be a hit and the episodes are going to kick arse cause common on, have you seen whats on the Cartoon Network lately? Some of the animation don't even stand a chance with what the Clone wars has to offer.
Next will be the live action series. You can bet you keisters that GL is going to work on the first set of scripts and then kick off to everybody else, but still be heavily involved. That project could also have a 5 year implication.
Then their is a second animated project that GL and LucasAnimation is doing. What it is, is not yet been determined. But some of us speculate that it will be an Indiana Jones one.
The you have that Red Tails movie that he wants to do about black fighter pilots. And Ford in the Maxim edition of May stated that he would be willing to do a 5th Indiana Jones movie. Now, with this one being set in the 50's and doing extemely well, why not grab the gang one more time and do it in the what.......60's? I see that so happening its not even funny. Indy has already made domestically $257 million making the second highest movie in the country behind Iron Man $290 million. With the international cume added to it, it has made a whopping $585 million dollars worldwide total and is the number 1 movie. Now were is GL going to get the time to do a ......KOTOR show? How old is GL? 60 somthing? Do the math. 
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vong333 posted:
Cid-thats nice and dandy...really, I remember when he made that cuase I was their at C-4, but when I see it, I will believe it.
Me, too. But i stand by what i said. He very far from ruled it out the way he did post ROTJ stuff.
vong333 posted:
The clone wars is still in the minds of many, and he can really reap benefits with it. The movie will be a hit and the episodes are going to kick arse cause common on, have you seen whats on the Cartoon Network lately? Some of the animation don't even stand a chance with what the Clone wars has to offer.
Of course the movie will make money. It's repackaging something they were doing anyway (intended to show for free on CN) and instead charging 10$ a ticket to see it. The only extra costs would be marketing.
And honestly who cares about animation if what you're seeing is entertaining? That's the big issue, is it worth the time spent sitting there watching. For Robot Chicken, i'd say yes. Family Guy, a big yes. Jury's still out on TCW. I've seen the same footage you have and so far all i see is more of the same junk that killed the PT. It'll surely be a hit with the kids, and it'll probably be a hit with the people that saw the PT films 10 times each. Me, i'm not so convinced based on what i have seen so far. But who knows.
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Next will be the live action series. You can bet you keisters that GL is going to work on the first set of scripts and then kick off to everybody else, but still be heavily involved. That project could also have a 5 year implication.
Thus far Lucas says he's writing scripts for the first season, so that's a lot of scripts. I don't really bet my 'keisters' on anything Lucas says. He does too many turns for me to do things like that. Plus, IF you are right it still doesn't mean anything. A producer can have several projects going at once without too much trouble. Especially one of Lucas' skill (I maintain that he is one of the best producers in history, and he should have stayed a producer).
vong333 posted:
Then their is a second animated project that GL and LucasAnimation is doing. What it is, is not yet been determined. But some of us speculate that it will be an Indiana Jones one.
That'd be cool but i doubt it.
vong333 posted:
The you have that Red Tails movie that he wants to do about black fighter pilots.
That i'll believe when i see. He's been talking about doing the Tuskegee Airmen movie for years and nothing has materialized. I can see him producing it, maybe, but not directing it. He's also been talking about doing little experimental arthouse movies for years, where are they?
vong333 posted:
And Ford in the Maxim edition of May stated that he would be willing to do a 5th Indiana Jones movie. Now, with this one being set in the 50's and doing extemely well, why not grab the gang one more time and do it in the what.......60's? I see that so happening its not even funny.
God, i hope not. IJ4 was terrible. But i think we're pretty safe from that horror. Even in my dark nightmares i don't see that happening. Besides, Spielberg would have to come along and i really doubt he would.
vong333 posted:
Indy has already made domestically $257 million making the second highest movie in the country behind Iron Man $290 million.
Indiana Jones. The second highest grossing movie of the year behind a second string Marvel comics character. That doesn't seem wrong to you?
vong333 posted:
Now were is GL going to get the time to do a ......KOTOR show? How old is GL? 60 somthing? Do the math.
The math is pretty good, actually. As i said, I'll believe a KOTOR movie when i see it (even if he did do anything set in the distant SW past i doubt it'd be tales/KOTOR era or anything else covered in the EU) but even if threatening us with IJ5 (The Adventures of Mutt), red tails, and whatever else he blows smoke with all actually happens, GL would still have time to do pretty much anything he wanted to do in the SW universe. He owns the animation studio, the sound editing studio, a small army of writers, and the production company, that's a lot of middle men cut out and TCW can't last forever. The fictional war only lasted 3 years, and (with some exceptions) animated series usually don't go a whole lot of seasons anyway. But they can go straight into another era with animation once it's done. Good. I was sick of battle droids three years ago.
I personally maintain they need to animate the original trilogy characters since he's been ignoring HALF his saga for the past decade. THAT would be a smash hit just based on name recognition alone. Or animate Darth Vader's activities during the time the LAS is set in since he's pretty much ruled out any chance of seeing it in the LAS.
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vong333
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Cid- Don't get me wrong, I would really like to see somthing done before TPM and after ROTJ. I for one for many years have argued with many fans that GL is like a comfort person. Only doing things and authorizing things in a safe manner.
As for the clone wars animation, no complaints from me. I agree with you, the marketing strategy is almost the same as the TPM. I'm afraid it going to over saturate the market and end up like the movie itslef. Very succesful but not liked and critized by many.
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I wouldn't rule out Indy 5...I wouldn't bet money on it, but don't rule it out. (Though, this is not the Indy Forum so...yeah)
What you said about animating Darth Vader's doings in the Jedi Purge and such would be...fantastic. 
I don't share your pessimistic view on the CW and its animations, however.
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darth_nemisis posted:
I wouldn't rule out Indy 5...I wouldn't bet money on it, but don't rule it out. (Though, this is not the Indy Forum so...yeah)
What bums me out is that we'll never get our big WWII Indy adventure... Indy 5 with Harrison playing second fiddle to Shia (As much as i do like Shia) doesn't sit well with me.
darth_nemisis posted:
What you said about animating Darth Vader's doings in the Jedi Purge and such would be...fantastic.
I'd like something. Have him be the bad guy 100% but do it somehow. Everyone wants it. It might be hard to conceive of something like SW being told like this. Computer animation, cartoon animation, whatever just not books.
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I don't share your pessimistic view on the CW and its animations, however.
I'll have to see it, but I'll wait until I hear what it's like firsthand. If it's power rangers with laser swords count me out. I'll see it on DVD sometime when i have my kid with me.
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I wish you hadn't brought that up about an animated Darth Vader series...I'd really love to see that. He would look amazing.
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For many years, we have seen the novels, comic books, and role playing games play a real big part in the EU. The video games and animation are also part of it, but don't have the coverage that the other's have. Now, with all this technology, and success by different companies with animation/cartoons/anime. Why in the world, wouldn't you want to tell stories in a direct to dvd style of things. Stuff that would cover different eras,done by different people? I mean, look at the cartoon network. Some of the stuff really is crud. When the micro clone series came out, it just put to shame everything that the cartoon network had. They could do a good 2-d style cartoon plus all these direct to dvd stuff. Why must it always involve the novels and comic books only? I don't want an all inclusive hard worked 3-d series that takes years to produce. That is not what I was looking for. Take for example this new clone war cartoon series. It has taken a long time to do, and its all stuck in one era and its about the same thing......The jedi will fall, the jedi must die, the republic will be overthrown, wear is Skywalker kind of crap, the dark side clouds everything and the droids are idiots. So okay, GL says that the clone troopers are normal people who has feelings, but didn't we cover this before? Hasn't Traviss with her novels done more than enough of this?
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I am not quite sure that having it in a direct to DVD style would be very good at all. I am going on an assumption here, but those sales and the viewing audience for things that go direct to DVD cannot be that high. Besides, this is Star Wars, not some cheesy, unpopular movie.
And why would you want it to be 2-D? Don't you want the best that you can get? The animation we are seeing in these trailers and such are WAAAY better than those from the micro-series.
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darth_nemisis posted:
And why would you want it to be 2-D? Don't you want the best that you can get? The animation we are seeing in these trailers and such are WAAAY better than those from the micro-series.
I'm far more concerned about story. In a tug of war between story and animation: story wins. The reason the old Batman animated series has such staying power is that the stories were usually great even if the animation is shifty sometimes (especially early on).
On top of that, the micro-series' art style was very stylized in true Gennedy form. Apples meet oranges.
And who says 3D is the best you can get? You sound like Michael Eisner. I like SOME of the CGI i've seen from the CW series, but some of the characters look like crap (Mace, Ventress, and Obi-Wan look fine, while Anakin, Dooku, and Palpatine all look like total CRAP) Personally, I've always felt that a mix of 2d and 3d was the best. 2D traditional animation for the characters with 3D CGI for the backgrounds, Ships, and Tech. I'm not too into anime, but I'd be willing to lay money down that you can easily find those fans would seriously argue the merits of 2D traditional animation.
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I would've much rather preferred that they go all-out and go the route of Beowulf: make them look 100% real through CGI. {i]That[/i] be would awesome. Frankly, I think this new Clone Wars art style--much like the GT microseries--is ugly.
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darth_nemisis posted:
And why would you want it to be 2-D? Don't you want the best that you can get?
3D animation is not inherently "better" than 2D animation. CWGT was stylized in a very specific way, but if they wanted to, they could have easily done a more "mature anime" approach to design and made things just as "realistic" as what we're seeing in CW3D. It all depends on the art style and direction and what you do with the medium.
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Actually, i prefer the stylized Bruce Timm DCAU style like Justice League Unlimited or the DCAU movies. That said, sometimes the disney style is great when they lay off the exaggerated bodies (Like Jasmine's Midget dad in Alladin, or Hercules: Angular Hero).
I really do dislike 99% of Anime. It has it's fans so there's something there, but it's not my style at all.
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I'm with you on disliking anime. That's why I was really hesitant for the first CW cartoon. It was the same guy who did that samurai cartoon and I didn't care too much for that. Now the great part is that I loved the styling of the cartoons, both seasons. And I'm kind of liking the movie style. The only thing for me is the faces. They've gone to such lengths for the environments and ships but the chiseled stoic faces of the characters, in my opinion, loses something. If the characters were as detailed and 'real' as everything else, I think they would have hit the jackpot completely and then some.
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