Author Topic: *Official* Live Action Series General Thread (spoilers - 2012 airdate)
Sven_Starcrown  1684 posts
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Date Posted: 3/10 2:32pm Subject: What's going on with the Live Action show
Lucas was always too Anicentric. talk_hand

 

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Humble_Jedi  428 posts
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Date Posted: 3/10 4:26pm Subject: What's going on with the Live Action show - Date Edited: 3/10 4:28pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Humble_Jedi
novajoe23 posted:
Humble_Jedi posted:
Robimus posted:
Makes me more hopefully that its really going to happen and not end up like Episodes 7,8 and 9.


Episodes 7,8 and 9 never existed dude. Except on the website of he-who-shall-not-be-named. whistling


That's what he meant... he didn't want it to end up not existing. Like 7, 8, and 9, the show was mentioned to be coming at some point, but was in danger to never come to fruition, just like the cancelled 7, 8, and 9.


7, 8 and 9 weren't 'cancelled'. They were never written and they were never even planned to be written. Lucas never -ever- said he was planning to make them. It's just a fan rumour that's managed to stick around for ages.

 

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QueenMother_LK  2957 posts
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Date Posted: 3/10 6:16pm Subject: What's going on with the Live Action show
oh come on Lucas! no one likes Anakin that much anyway! lol tongue

 

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Robimus  3654 posts
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Date Posted: 3/11 8:53am Subject: What's going on with the Live Action show - Date Edited: 3/11 9:02am (1 edits total) Edited By: Robimus
I just want to address this Episode 7,8 and 9 whirlwind I started here. Those episodes are not "fan rumor" and have nothing to do with anyones "website". They were official plans from Lucas from the early 80's that appeared in print in licenced articles about Star Wars.

From a fall 1982 edition of Tribute distributed free in theatres. The issue is an all Star Wars issue approved by LFL that discusses "Revenge of the Jedi" and how it was soon coming to theatres. Here's the text reguarding the future of the franchise circa 1982 tongue :

Following Revenge of the Jedi, the next picture to be filmed in the nine part Adventures of Luke Skywalker, will be Episode #3, a prequel to the original Star Wars. Episodes #2 and #1 will follow and back track sequentially to the beginning of the story.. After this history of the rebellion against the empire, the final sequels #7 through #9 will be filmed and released in chronological order.

Lucas has even mentioned Episodes 7,8 and 9 on many occasions, though he clearly changed his mind about making them. Lucas's and LFL's many statements about these Episodes clearly show his original intent to make those films, though he clearly never wrote them(outside of an outline I think) and later decided they wouldn't be made.

A "fan rumor" these are not. happy

 

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Humble_Jedi  428 posts
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Date Posted: 3/11 5:45pm Subject: What's going on with the Live Action show
I remember hearing about this 'trilogy of trilogies' story when I was a kid. However, in recent years Lucas has only said things like 'the story is only about Anakin.' So I assumed these had been false rumours. I had no idea this actually came from Lucas himself, back in the day. I assumed you had seen the fake 7,8 and 9 scripts. Because sadly, that's how a lot of people seem to hear about them these days. So, my apologies. happy

 

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Robimus  3654 posts
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Date Posted: 3/11 6:46pm Subject: What's going on with the Live Action show
No worries happy

 

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DarthBreezy  13133 posts
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Date Posted: 3/11 7:14pm Subject: What's going on with the Live Action show
FWIW - as a true 'dinosaur' of the fandom, I remember when George was talking about how surprised he was that the original 'Star Wars' (pre Episode IV - A New Hope) really took off, and he was asked about a sequel - he said that the success of the movie meant he would definitely be up for one, and 'call it something cheesy, like "the Empire Strikes Back" or something, in keeping with the old movie serial titles' - If you can ever find an issue of "StarLog" circa 1978-1979 (the one with Buck Rodgers "Hawk" on the cover, I believe (in my foggy old brain) it's in there...

 

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black_saber  3359 posts
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Date Posted: 5/30 5:03pm Subject: What's going on with the Live Action show
Humble_Jedi posted:
novajoe23 posted:
Humble_Jedi posted:
[quote=Robimus]Makes me more hopefully that its really going to happen and not end up like Episodes 7,8 and 9.


Episodes 7,8 and 9 never existed dude. Except on the website of he-who-shall-not-be-named. whistling


That's what he meant... he didn't want it to end up not existing. Like 7, 8, and 9, the show was mentioned to be coming at some point, but was in danger to never come to fruition, just like the cancelled 7, 8, and 9.


7, 8 and 9 weren't 'cancelled'. They were never written and they were never even planned to be written. Lucas never -ever- said he was planning to make them. It's just a fan rumour that's managed to stick around for ages.[/quote]

As far as I can tell Lucas did plan for a two-set sequel trilogy after Return of the Jedi. Judging upon what I have know He may of been crazy enough to do a 7 set sequel Trilogy. The more Star Wars the better.

 

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SithLordDarthRichie  26730 posts
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Date Posted: 5/31 2:46am Subject: What's going on with the Live Action show
I think he dropped the idea once he realised he'd left it too long and his cast either were no longer interesting in being part of it or were too old.

Probably for the best, if he'd made the same mistakes with that as he did with the prequels we'd have had all the great OT characters like Han Solo ruined the way Vader & Obi Wan were

 

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Date Posted: 6/12 8:29am Subject: What's going on with the Live Action show
Humble_Jedi posted:
novajoe23 posted:
Humble_Jedi posted:
[quote=Robimus]Makes me more hopefully that its really going to happen and not end up like Episodes 7,8 and 9.


Episodes 7,8 and 9 never existed dude. Except on the website of he-who-shall-not-be-named. whistling


That's what he meant... he didn't want it to end up not existing. Like 7, 8, and 9, the show was mentioned to be coming at some point, but was in danger to never come to fruition, just like the cancelled 7, 8, and 9.


7, 8 and 9 weren't 'cancelled'. They were never written and they were never even planned to be written. Lucas never -ever- said he was planning to make them. It's just a fan rumour that's managed to stick around for ages.[/quote]

Actually, if you read the book "The secret history of Star Wars", you will see that 7,8, and 9 were planned (actually there was going to be 12 total), but they were cancelled. Leia was not the original "Other" that Yoda spoke of. There was going to be a different twin and the remainder of the series was going to focus on them. After having such trouble with IV, V, and VI, Lucas canceled the remainder of the series. He has since changed his story to cover this up, but if you look you can find the proof of it.

 

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Robimus  3654 posts
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Date Posted: 6/12 9:16am Subject: What's going on with the Live Action show
I'm curious as to when this Secret History of Star Wars was published? I never heard anything about 12 films but I did hear a lot about the 9 films back in the 80's, as I pointed to about a page back. And that was from LFL itself. happy

 

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LawJedi  449 posts
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Date Posted: 6/12 10:43am Subject: What's going on with the Live Action show
Robimus posted:
I'm curious as to when this Secret History of Star Wars was published? I never heard anything about 12 films but I did hear a lot about the 9 films back in the 80's, as I pointed to about a page back. And that was from LFL itself. happy


You should check out some Gary Kurtz interviews. He insists that Lucas gave him a basic outline of the nine movies, including the aforementioned "lost twin."

 

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Arden_Kingslayer 
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Date Posted: 6/12 12:49pm Subject: What's going on with the Live Action show
Robimus posted:
I'm curious as to when this Secret History of Star Wars was published? I never heard anything about 12 films but I did hear a lot about the 9 films back in the 80's, as I pointed to about a page back. And that was from LFL itself. happy


November 18, 2008. Here's a link:

http://www.amazon.com/Secret-History-Star-Wars/dp/0978465237/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1244835546&sr=8-1

The reason why the original idea was for 12 episodes was that in the Flash Gordon serials there was normally 12 episodes. Also, despite what Lucas has said about "A New Hope" always being Episode IV, it was not. Early versions of the script always referred to it being the first chapter. He later decided (after '78) that the prequels would center around a young Obi-Wan. Of course, he changed his mind later to make them center around Vader.

The book is quite interesting, and I highly recommend it to any fan.

 

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Robimus  3654 posts
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Date Posted: 6/13 9:10am Subject: What's going on with the Live Action show - Date Edited: 6/13 9:12am (1 edits total) Edited By: Robimus
It's clear that Episode four wasn't always intended as Episode 4 just based on how it appeared in Theaters initially. It's also fairly common knowledge that Lucas tweaks a lot as he goes along.

Even if he always intended Luke to be Vader's son from his own interviews(and I'm not sure he did) its clear he didn't decide he was going to go that route for certain until working on Empire.

The 12 Episodes thing is interesting but farfetched even if George wanted to go that route initially. I think it's very likely George had all kinds of ideas from Mace Windy to the Whills to Starkiller, all of which recieved overwrite after overwrite until he reached a point he was comfortable with.

I fully believe Lucas had an outline for the nine films, though I also believe a lot got tweaked in ROTJ. wink Leia's revelation was always a late addition or he wouldn't have had them kissing in ESB tongue

In any case I'll check out this book if I get a chance, it sounds interesting. I'll be interested to see if everything matches up with events as I remember them.

And from a certain pont of view the Prequels did revolve around Obi-Wan as much as they did Anakin. Those two characters are very closely connected.

 

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Date Posted: 6/13 3:20pm Subject: What's going on with the Live Action show
Yeah, there were definitely 9 films planned initially- they were never fan rumor, though Lucas has tried to dismiss it as such in interviews over the past 10 years (the fans aren't the only ones who like to retcon, it seems wink ). But the 9 films thing came from him, Mark and Kurtz, amongst other sources.

The 12 film notion was floated around by Lucas in a couple interviews, but he mentioned it far less frequently than the 9 film plan, which we know, via Kurtz and other sources, was altered before ROTJ went into production, and many of the ideas of the sequel trilogy (Luke's sister, introducing the Emperor, etc) were condensed into the Episode VI plan into the film we know today.

 

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