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MsLanna Title: CR GSFF Central = Offizieller Burger Brater Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 8/22/08 12:58am Subject: RE: Was Ahsoka only added to appeal to young girls?
	I'm too old to get drawn in by her. But hey, there's clones. Many clones... Buckets off! And, Artooy? I saw it In germanand when she used that silly name, we thought is was just bad translation and she had actually said something like 'Artie'. -----signature----- "You will kill yourself trying to live up to their expectations." "That's okay for me." Cuyir adate jate, bal droten ori'dush Proud Master and buir'ika of Commander_Ducky. My New Title: Lords and Ladies of the Empire
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norway Registered: Sep '00	Date Posted: 8/23/08 2:00pm Subject: RE: Was Ahsoka only added to appeal to young girls?
	I just came back from a second viewing and man did that improve my opinion of the film! I no longer have such major issues with Ahsoka, though she still annoyed me at times - only at times, not always this time. The thing I dislike most I think is the excessive use of "Sky guy" (used at least one time too many for my taste) and her mouthiness on the Tatooine space journey (rear shields, etc). She was actually pretty cool. So, for those who found her annoying the first time, watch it again and let me know if it sticks. -----signature----- Harry Potter Friends: http://www.snitchseeker.com "My mother used to tell me you could either be oh so smart or oh so pleasant. For years I was smart, I recommend pleasant." ~ Elwood P. Dowd
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_ThatJediScum_ Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 8/27/08 11:12pm Subject: RE: Was Ahsoka only added to appeal to young girls?
	Ahsoka does improve on a second viewing. I was prepared to like her and she rubbed me the wrong way the first time I saw the film. I felt she was too much and too forward. Then I thought about the situation. Anakin did reject her out right the first time they met. I could understand her being upset and on edge about that. I could also understand Anakin being upset about the Council choosing his padawan for him. I don't think either gave a good first impression. The second time I saw the movie, I liked her more. Ahsoka pushed too hard but I felt that had more do to trying to prove she could be a good padawan, even if while trying to prove it she messed up. And with her personality, I do think she and Anakin are a good fit. As far as appealing to young girls, I agree with MissPadmé. If LFL wanted a young female Jedi- Barriss would have done nicely, but I think the appeal for the character is that she's a padawan who is still learning and isn't necessarily the perfect Jedi. And training a padawan provides more opportunities for showing the further development of Anakin as a Jedi Knight. bran
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Meriwyn Title: FanForce RSA, Northeast USA Registered: Mar '02	Date Posted: 8/28/08 9:17am Subject: RE: Was Ahsoka only added to appeal to young girls?
	MissPadme posted: If they only wanted to appeal to young girls, just have Anakin and Obi-Wan wander about shirtless as many times as possible . I fully support this as well hehe And yes, Ahsoka's style of dress (or lack thereof) was yet ANOTHER case of practically every female in the SW Universe (EU very much included) who has to run around with a bare midriff and other skimpy clothing. Yes, I understand we all like to look at hard bodies, yadda yadda, and yes, I understand that the SW fandom is mostly boys/men, but there are quite alot of us fangirls out there, and I for one am getting tired of "oh look, another bare-midriffed, tight-costumed female...how...original" I find it really hard to believe every single female runs around the galaxy dressed in skimpy costumes all the time. And yes, I'll go out on a limb and say that Padme's strong character was cheapened in AOTC to make into a tease for Anakin. Lame. -----signature----- "Cake or death?? Um...cake please" "This calls for a very special blend of psychology and extreme violence" Proud female Star Wars collector Hate leads to lollipops... http://www.operationbling.org - inspired by my Mom
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XCell Registered: Apr '04	Date Posted: 8/28/08 9:54am Subject: RE: Was Ahsoka only added to appeal to young girls?
	Meriwyn posted: MissPadme posted: If they only wanted to appeal to young girls, just have Anakin and Obi-Wan wander about shirtless as many times as possible . I fully support this as well hehe And yes, Ahsoka's style of dress (or lack thereof) was yet ANOTHER case of practically every female in the SW Universe (EU very much included) who has to run around with a bare midriff and other skimpy clothing. Yes, I understand we all like to look at hard bodies, yadda yadda, and yes, I understand that the SW fandom is mostly boys/men, but there are quite alot of us fangirls out there, and I for one am getting tired of "oh look, another bare-midriffed, tight-costumed female...how...original" I find it really hard to believe every single female runs around the galaxy dressed in skimpy costumes all the time. And yes, I'll go out on a limb and say that Padme's strong character was cheapened in AOTC to make into a tease for Anakin. Lame. Yeah it's kind of strange, Leia's Senator mom dressing in skimpier clothes than her, of her own free will. In AotC Padme seemed to be trying to be professional and not attract Anakin and all that.. and she does that by wearing all these sexy dresses around him? (in a dark room...around a fire...) At least there was a reason for Leia being in her bikini. I see no reason for a little Jedi girl to be fighting a war in a tube-top and short skirt.
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Meriwyn Title: FanForce RSA, Northeast USA Registered: Mar '02	Date Posted: 8/28/08 11:32am Subject: RE: Was Ahsoka only added to appeal to young girls?
	I totally agree, XCell. -----signature----- "Cake or death?? Um...cake please" "This calls for a very special blend of psychology and extreme violence" Proud female Star Wars collector Hate leads to lollipops... http://www.operationbling.org - inspired by my Mom
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jedi-soon Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 8/28/08 9:20pm Subject: RE: Was Ahsoka only added to appeal to young girls?
	Like MissPadme said, Ahsoka brings a fun element to the series. One of the big criticisms of the prequels has been a lack of fun characters like Han Solo, so i think she was in part designed to address that issue. She will almost certainly become more serious as things move along. She is also going to develop an attraction to Anakin, and the initial seeds for that aspect of their relationship are just barely hinted at in TCW. She's got a long way to go. -----signature----- "let me see that jewel!" -abe "there's no such thing as the film. the 'film' is the thing that is spat out at the end." -gl "films are never completed, only abandoned." -alfred hitchcock My Star Wars animations and more at http://www.kneelingplant.com
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Obi-Mcfly Registered: May '08	Date Posted: 8/29/08 4:53am Subject: RE: Was Ahsoka only added to appeal to young girls?
	jedi-soon posted: Like MissPadme said, Ahsoka brings a fun element to the series. One of the big criticisms of the prequels has been a lack of fun characters like Han Solo, so i think she was in part designed to address that issue. She will almost certainly become more serious as things move along. She is also going to develop an attraction to Anakin, and the initial seeds for that aspect of their relationship are just barely hinted at in TCW. She's got a long way to go. Are we sure she's going to develop a crush on Anakin? I remember the voice actress for Ashoka (can't remember her name) saying in her interview on the Force-cast that any romantic relationship between them is not goign ot happen, and their relationship is more like brother and sister. -----signature----- "Only a Sith deals in absolutes. I will do what I must." "Last night, Darth Vader came down from the planet Vulcan, and told be if I didn't ask Loraine to the dance, he'd melt my brain" "Let's.Get.Dangerous!" Ah-E-Oh! Killer Tofu!
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jedi-soon Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 8/29/08 6:41am Subject: RE: Was Ahsoka only added to appeal to young girls?
	Trying to remember where i learned this. I'm pretty sure it's alluded to on the Clone Wars CD-ROM preview included with TV Guide a couple of weeks back. Hope i'm not spoiling anybody! -----signature----- "let me see that jewel!" -abe "there's no such thing as the film. the 'film' is the thing that is spat out at the end." -gl "films are never completed, only abandoned." -alfred hitchcock My Star Wars animations and more at http://www.kneelingplant.com
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Obi-Mcfly Registered: May '08	Date Posted: 8/29/08 2:35pm Subject: RE: Was Ahsoka only added to appeal to young girls?
	Yeah, I remember reading that in the article. But that was something that TV Guide was saying, because I thought the quote from Dave seemed liek it was taken out of context. It's always hard to really know what's going on in those interviews. -----signature----- "Only a Sith deals in absolutes. I will do what I must." "Last night, Darth Vader came down from the planet Vulcan, and told be if I didn't ask Loraine to the dance, he'd melt my brain" "Let's.Get.Dangerous!" Ah-E-Oh! Killer Tofu!
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Meriwyn Title: FanForce RSA, Northeast USA Registered: Mar '02	Date Posted: 8/30/08 10:17am Subject: RE: Was Ahsoka only added to appeal to young girls?
	I REALLY REALLY hope they don't go in that direction. First, it would cheapen his marriage to Padme and second, He's 21-22 by now and Ahsoka is somewhere around 13 I believe. A crush I can see, but please dear God don't put those two in a romantic relationship. -----signature----- "Cake or death?? Um...cake please" "This calls for a very special blend of psychology and extreme violence" Proud female Star Wars collector Hate leads to lollipops... http://www.operationbling.org - inspired by my Mom
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JSnyder Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 8/30/08 10:54am Subject: RE: Was Ahsoka only added to appeal to young girls?
	XCell posted: Yeah it's kind of strange, Leia's Senator mom dressing in skimpier clothes than her, of her own free will. In AotC Padme seemed to be trying to be professional and not attract Anakin and all that.. and she does that by wearing all these sexy dresses around him? Well, I got the impression that Pre-Clone Wars the style of dress would be similar to Renaissance England Nobility - refined dress, refined speech, more "civilized"; even her "peasant" clothing while traveling incognito was of high caliber. Post Republic, everyone is subdued; dress becomes more plain and unassuming, language becomes more "common-man" and the population is turned into pseudo-clones with no individuality. [quote]I see no reason for a little Jedi girl to be fighting a war in a tube-top and short skirt.[/quote] Jedi robes get in the way? -----signature----- "I go online sometimes, but everyone's spelling is really bad, and it's... depressing."
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GrandAdmiral_Frank Registered: Aug '03	Date Posted: 8/30/08 2:47pm Subject: RE: Was Ahsoka only added to appeal to young girls?
	Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon posted: Make a live-action Clone Wars movie all about Ashoka, starring Miley Cyrus. It will make more money than the other movies COMBINED. LFL has someone who just scans this website looking for some witty ideas they think would work. You just gave them one. It will happen in a year or so. We'll be gray haired or white haired instantly some who are already at that point will turn into Palpatine and then when we talk of Star Wars we will say "For over three decades Star Wars was awesome before the dark times, before the starring of Miley". LOL that was funny though. As for the topic. Well I think Ahsoka was created to appeal to little girls. I remember some people complaining that the PT did not have a girl who could kick some arse like Leia. Even though Padme totes a blaster? So I think they wanted a girl that could be a main character and appeal to the girls who like SW. I also think that they thought it would be interesting to put Anakin with someone so unlikely. Maybe they were trying to pull a James Cameron with Tom Arnold and Arnold Schwarzenegger. -----signature----- Member of the Han Solo and Chewbacca FanClub Member of the TFF Winner of the PT Rewrite Challenge Four "Don't make me destroy you"-Darth Vader, The Empire Strikes Back
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beezel26 Registered: May '03	Date Posted: 8/30/08 3:36pm Subject: RE: Was Ahsoka only added to appeal to young girls?
	Miley as Ahsoka, Oh my god Anakin, I so hot for you right now. I can't believe how lucky I am to be your padawan.
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jedi-soon Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 8/30/08 5:57pm Subject: RE: Was Ahsoka only added to appeal to young girls?
	Yeah, i think it will just be a crush. A 14yo admiring her 19yo teacher. I fully expect it to be unrequited, due both to her age and Anakin's devout love for Padme. However, it should create some drama for Ahsoka's character! I can foresee her becoming very tragic.... -----signature----- "let me see that jewel!" -abe "there's no such thing as the film. the 'film' is the thing that is spat out at the end." -gl "films are never completed, only abandoned." -alfred hitchcock My Star Wars animations and more at http://www.kneelingplant.com
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