Vortigern99 posted:I could kind of take or leave her; she was okay-ish without being especially impressive. I do like the way she holds her lightsaber, and clearly she can handle herself nicely. But she seems to be depicted as too strenuous of a bad*** to be entirely believable as a child/tween/padawan. It seems to me she should have got in more trouble, or had a harder time with her adversaries. What I'm trying to wrap my mind around is how Yoda could have assigned Anakin, who is Kenobi's padawan, a padawan. For that matter, how could Kenobi, who early in the film speaks of "a new padawan", receive a second padawan? Did I miss something? Is Anakin no longer Kenobi's padawan? If so, why does Anakin call him "Master" and follow his orders in ROTS? I'm so confused.
JSnyder posted:XCell posted:Yeah it's kind of strange, Leia's Senator mom dressing in skimpier clothes than her, of her own free will. In AotC Padme seemed to be trying to be professional and not attract Anakin and all that.. and she does that by wearing all these sexy dresses around him? Well, I got the impression that Pre-Clone Wars the style of dress would be similar to Renaissance England Nobility - refined dress, refined speech, more "civilized"; even her "peasant" clothing while traveling incognito was of high caliber. Post Republic, everyone is subdued; dress becomes more plain and unassuming, language becomes more "common-man" and the population is turned into pseudo-clones with no individuality. [quote]I see no reason for a little Jedi girl to be fighting a war in a tube-top and short skirt.
XCell posted:Yeah it's kind of strange, Leia's Senator mom dressing in skimpier clothes than her, of her own free will. In AotC Padme seemed to be trying to be professional and not attract Anakin and all that.. and she does that by wearing all these sexy dresses around him?
XCell posted:I don't think the Renaissance fashion thing makes sense for it. Padme disguised herself as a plain handmaiden before, but in AotC she dresses up around Anakin and she's supposed to be 'uncomfortable' around him.
JSnyder posted:XCell posted:I don't think the Renaissance fashion thing makes sense for it. Padme disguised herself as a plain handmaiden before, but in AotC she dresses up around Anakin and she's supposed to be 'uncomfortable' around him. As a Senator and ex-queen, I doubt she has the equivalent of sweatshirt and sweatpants, since this is what you are seemingly trying to indicate she should be wearing to be discouraging. She has nice clothes (station actually requires even nicer clothes). Passerby on the "street" have nice clothes. The outer rim where the Republic has no influence has slavery and poor clothes. What is so hard to grasp here? [quote]And Anakin and Obi-Wan fight in their Jedi robes well enough, so why not Ahsoka? I'm not trying to make a big deal out of all this skimpy clothes stuff. It's not like it makes the rating any higher, it's just...well, cheap.
Azura posted:Anakin is no longer a padawan at this point, but a Knight, as indicated by his lack of a padawan braid. (The knighting ceremony was shown in Chapter 21 of the original Clone Wars cartoon.) He is therefore fully qualified to train a padawan, and said padawan will refer to him as "master" in honor of his role as teacher and mentor. However, he is not yet a full Master in rank, and will still defer to the seniority of Masters such as Kenobi and the other Council members. I think the main source of confusion here is the dual usage of the term "Master": 1. as a relative rank, used in the same way we use the term "sir." This is used when any junior Jedi addresses a senior Jedi, such as a padawan addressing a Knight. 2. as an absolute rank, given to a Jedi who has successfully trained a padawan to knighthood, or who has otherwise proven himself through experience and accomplishments. This is the rank that gets denied to Anakin in ROTS.
Gallandro posted:Go-Mer-Tonic posted:I liked the character, and I'm an old dude. Me too. I didn't find the character annoying at all. I found her to be A LOT like my youngest daughter who's 13. Her older sister (by a year) is an overachiever who excels at sports, academics... pretty much everything she puts her mind to. As a result my youngest has always found herself a bit in her sister's shadow (not in our home mind you), and there are always inevitable comparisons between the two from teachers, coaches, and peers. As a result she really, really tries hard to show that she is her own person and not like her sister at all. My oldest is very respectful, somewhat shy initially and very reserved... my youngest is very boisterous, outgoing, and VERY opinionated... not in a disrespectful way mind you, but she wears her emotions on her sleeve. She works very hard to make sure people realize she is NOT her sister. That's what I saw in Ashoka; a young girl struggling to prove her worth and to prove that she is worthy of the honor that's been bestowed on her. She can be somewhat pushy and very outspoken, but ultimately she understands her place. My favorite scene in the movie: 1) After the battle on Christophsis when Anakin gently berates her for her attitude, then praises her for how hard she fought, and finally explains that she may not be a good enough Padawan for Obi-Wan but she's good enough for him. Good stuff... is it pandering to girls? Sure, I guess, but no more so than Star Wars panders to young boys in general... Yancy
Go-Mer-Tonic posted:I liked the character, and I'm an old dude.
Amdrag posted:Gallandro posted:Go-Mer-Tonic posted:I liked the character, and I'm an old dude. Me too. I didn't find the character annoying at all. I found her to be A LOT like my youngest daughter who's 13. Her older sister (by a year) is an overachiever who excels at sports, academics... pretty much everything she puts her mind to. As a result my youngest has always found herself a bit in her sister's shadow (not in our home mind you), and there are always inevitable comparisons between the two from teachers, coaches, and peers. As a result she really, really tries hard to show that she is her own person and not like her sister at all. My oldest is very respectful, somewhat shy initially and very reserved... my youngest is very boisterous, outgoing, and VERY opinionated... not in a disrespectful way mind you, but she wears her emotions on her sleeve. She works very hard to make sure people realize she is NOT her sister. That's what I saw in Ashoka; a young girl struggling to prove her worth and to prove that she is worthy of the honor that's been bestowed on her. She can be somewhat pushy and very outspoken, but ultimately she understands her place. My favorite scene in the movie: 1) After the battle on Christophsis when Anakin gently berates her for her attitude, then praises her for how hard she fought, and finally explains that she may not be a good enough Padawan for Obi-Wan but she's good enough for him. Good stuff... is it pandering to girls? Sure, I guess, but no more so than Star Wars panders to young boys in general... Yancy That is the problem I have with it. These are kids raised in a temple. They don't have these kind of personalities. She reminds me of my niece. Wouldn't exactly give her a lightsaber.
Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon posted:Make a live-action Clone Wars movie all about Ashoka, starring Miley Cyrus.
DVCPRO-HDeditor posted:(Personally, I wouldn't want to live in a world where there were only men and machines. It would get boring pretty quick, don't you think?)