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Ludo_Kressh Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 6/6 2:02am Subject: Is there a chance Ashoka will survive Order 66 and the Jedi Purge?
	DeadOrAlive posted: If Ahasoka were to be killed by Asajj Ventress, that would lead back to two people: Count Dooku and Darth Sidious. So it would have had to come up during the duel aboard The Invisible Hand and when Palpatine's identity is revealed, in which case Anakin would have struck Sidious down right then and there. And if Grievous were to do it, then it would be the same thing, it would have come up during The Invisible Hand and the duel with Kenobi. Yeah, I like that Anakin would be mad at Dooku for indirectly or directly killing his padawan better than the explanation that we got where he was mad because he lost his arm to Dooku(or whatever other explanation they gave for it at the time) -----signature----- ~hopeless member of the Official General Grievous fanclub~ Be thankful, Viceroy...you have not found yourself in my grip! Everybody quiet! I have a call to make...
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The2ndQuest Title: Manager: -Literature -LACWAC -Games Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 6/14 9:52am Subject: Is there a chance Ashoka will survive Order 66 and the Jedi Purge?
	mini-bump -----signature----- "When your future self tells you to do something, YOU DO IT." K'Kruhk, 140 ABY:"Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker? Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..."
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AhsokaSkywalker Registered: Jun '09	Date Posted: 6/23 6:50pm Subject: Is there a chance Ashoka will survive Order 66 and the Jedi Purge?
	I does look like that in the trailer for the clone wars that ventress gets her because Ahsoka turns off her lightsaber, possibly stabbed or hurt, and Ventress says "Now you will die!". I haven't seen all the Episodes so I don't know. Maybe Ahsoka isstill there in ROTS. Maybe she is finally allowed by the Council to go off on missions of her own. Ahsoka wasn't with Anakin when they were negotiating that dispute on that ice planet and Anakin would most certainly have decapitated Ventress if she had killed Ahsoka. So it would seem like Dooku, though in ROTS, it would seem that Anakin and Grevious have never met before, though I'm somewhat certain they have in the Clone Wars series. Also, who says Ahsoka has to die at all, at least until Order 66? Why can't she become a Knight, but because of Anakin's age, or the Council feeling he isn't ready, Anakin is denied the rank of Master, which would explain why he would go from being a loyal Jedi to easily falling to Sidious' lies. If he felt jipped by the Ahsoka incident, then being allowed on the Council but not given the rank of Master might have been the final straw. Also, that whole Anakin on the Council thing was obviously a scheme by Palpatine because he knew they wouldn't let Anakin become a Master and he knew Anakin would be furious about that. If Ahsoka is at the Temple during Operation Knightfall, she may get away, though not her own skill alone of course. Rex is in the 501st and Anakin is leading the Army. Darth Vader doesn't mind killing his own side, he gladly wasted those Imperials to save Galen Marek, and also Vader told Galen to kill stormtroopers that got too close several times. Also, I think Rex would refuse and be choked by the Emperor if ordered to fire upon Ahsoka. If Vader and Rex killed all the 501st in the room, took Ahsoka's lightsaber, let her escape while distracting the clones away from her, say by accidentally dropping his lightsaber and/or gun in Rex's case, she may just go into hiding on Courascant. The Empire would never think a Jedi would hide out in their capital. ----Help me Obi-wan Kenobi! You're my only hope!---------
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AhsokaSkywalker Registered: Jun '09	Date Posted: 6/23 7:09pm Subject: Is there a chance Ashoka will survive Order 66 and the Jedi Purge?
	No, but I did have something about as bizzare in mind for Episode 7. Ahsoka survives Order 66, and the First Galactic Civil War and then finds Luke, and also, they kinda fall in love, later marries him, and Mara Jade becomes a Dark Jedi and tries to get Luke romantically involved with her while trying to get alone with him and put a red saber in his back. Ahsoka fights her on Sun Crusher and Mara Jade says "I hope you don't feel too bad when I kill your man!" and Ahsoka uses the Force to send her out an airlock and says, to the same tone like Obi-wan said it "I don't think so!". They find that love is the power of the Jedi, falsely suppressed by the Council for thousands of years, that can beat the Sith, but after defeating Sidious, who did know the power of Darth Plagius, he said "I havethe power to save the one you love!" , remember?, and his apprentice Darth Trion, their son Cade finds the Dark Holocron, made by the Sith with information from Darth Bane, Darth Malak, Darth Nihilus, etc, that has a lot of Sith information and explains how to become one with the Dark Side and create a thing that feeds on the Dark Side of the Force and can give you power like the Star Forge thingy Malak had, and information on how it may be possible to use the Force to shoot fire, though none of the previous Dark Lords have ever managed to pull it off, and information on how to keep your thoughts from being read and a plot to take over the Jedi Order from the inside, Cade becomes Darth Sohne, and, after a duel in the Temple, convinces Jacen to become Darth Caedus and convinces Ornini of the Yuzzhan Vong to attack the Republic. After his scheme, which worked when the Republic voted power to the Grandmaster of the Jedi Council, and Cade got enough followers on the Council to vote Luke and Ahsoka and Leia and Ben and a few others out and him in as the new Grandmaster. Then he initiates another version of Order 66, this time perpetrated by his own fallen Jedi, and also kills his own Twi'leek wife when she refuses to join him and also teams up with Cad Bane. Boba Fett, who had survived the Sarlaac and joined Luke's side in Episode 7, faces off with Bane. Also, Luke confronts Sohne, and tells Leia, upon her discovering the identity of Darth Caedus, that he forgot to tell her he saw Jacen kill younglings on the Jedi security video, but Darth Sohne has used Force fire to knock out the one in the room he attacked. He then asks Luke to join him, Luke refuses and Ahsoka manages to get the upper hand, though he wasn't really trying that much at all, and Luke says he'll never join Darth Sohne because he killed Cade. Then Sohne says "No, Iam your son!" and Ahsoka, not beliving him, pulls off his mask to reveal that he really is their son. Luke beats Cade with the Force power of love and the Jedi defeat the Sith forever. Nice idea?
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AhsokaSkywalker Registered: Jun '09	Date Posted: 6/23 7:15pm Subject: Is there a chance Ashoka will survive Order 66 and the Jedi Purge?
	Vader couldn't even bring himself to kill Obi-wan when the first met on Mustafar. Also, Ob-wan wasn't that thrilled about battling Anakin either. If Anakin was heartless like Obi-wan and Yoda, who it turned out were wrong about there being no good left in Anakin, said, then why not just go for Obi-wan and after actually killing Padme himself and then going after Obi-wan and killing him immediately? Why shout "Don't make me kill you" instead of "I'm going to kill you!"? Also, maybe Vader turns on the clones like he did when he rescued Galen Marek. Rex would probably agree to keep what Anakin did a secret. ----Army or not, you must realize, you are doomed!----
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AhsokaSkywalker Registered: Jun '09	Date Posted: 6/23 7:21pm Subject: Is there a chance Ashoka will survive Order 66 and the Jedi Purge?
	Well if she has to die, why not add her demise to the list of Jedi Anakin betrayed personally? After all, even Obi gets axed in New Hope. Though that would ruin the Episodes I'm writing, speedily to save her in case Cad Bane gets to her in Season 2, though that Ventress clip of her saying "Now you will die" is still unnerving, though how could Anakin possibly let her live, he'd chase her all over the Galaxy until she was bantha fodder? -----Anakin, you're breaking my heart!------
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AhsokaSkywalker Registered: Jun '09	Date Posted: 6/24 1:41pm Subject: Is there a chance Ashoka will survive Order 66 and the Jedi Purge?
	Sidious is a good liar. He says twice that someone other than Plagius, once he actually said that he personally had that power, and once he said that plagius taught his apprentice everything he knew and blah blah blah. But he says that to cheat death is a power achieved by only one. Anakin seems to have lost his common sense because of his concern over Padme. Also, he never foresaw that his fall to the dark side would be the cause of her death in childbirth, and also he believed sidious when Sidious told anakin/vader that Padme had died and that anakin had killed her, directly. Also, he never mentions Ahsoka being dead, and likely she could just have been able to go on missions for herself, like Anakin did when he was assigned to protect Padme, and also, if Ventress doesn't kill Ahsoka in that confrontation that really creeps me out in the previews, where it kinda looked like she died or was about to, though to tell it plainly, Vader, and perhaps Yoda, were the only ones who died who had actually done a lot when star wars first came out and I'm not even sure if Yoda at that point would qualify. Obi-wan, though a major character, seemed kind of a weak link and died somewhere near the end and mainly helped Luke after he died. Also, his death wasn't that dramatic. Vader's death was the second true incident of the death of a major character. What I mean by major character, is that they have to be in at least two films, or in at least appear in at least many episodes in the clone wars series, like Anakin and Obi-wan of course, Ventress too, Ahsoka, Rex, Padme, Dooku, and Grevious. Sidious doesn't seem to be a major character in the clone wars, or mainly in star wars itself, though he is in fact throughout all 6 six films, and the clone wars series, the mastermind pulling all the strings, he isn't really a major character except in the last episode of the original trilogy and the last episode of the prequel trilogy. So Ahsoka may not die, at least I hope not. Also, Ventress supossedly survives the clone wars series, something she surely wouldn't have done, at least not without being slaughtered like a Tuskan Raider by Anakin, if she had killed Ahsoka. Cad Bane could, though I'd like both to appear in like a new star wars film. Maybe Ahsoka does some kind of dirty battle tactic and kills Ventress in a way against the Jedi Code and gets thrown out of the Order. Or she could have been with Codi Ty on the revenge attack on Grevious and gotten thrown out of the Order along with him. Also, I think Anakin and Rex will betray the 501st and kill a few of them and allow Ahsoka to escape. Anakin wouldn't want to kill those close to him. He probably likes Ahsoka more than Obi-wan, or just the same. So since Anakin wanted to avoid a duel with Obi-wan, he shouted don't make me kill you, and Obi-wan wanted to kill the Emperor and have Yoda take out Anakin if you recall, why fight his one and only Padawan? Yeah he kiled a Padawan during the attack on the temple, but I can't see Anakin killing her. Also, he'd probably, perhaps, want her alive to have her become his new Sith apprentice, though it ends up not turning out that way and he let her go and she didn't join him and went into hiding, and kill Sidious with him and take over the Empire for himself.
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AhsokaSkywalker Registered: Jun '09	Date Posted: 6/24 2:28pm Subject: Is there a chance Ashoka will survive Order 66 and the Jedi Purge?
	Perhaps she dies right when Palpatine is kidnapped. Or she figures out that he is being held prisoner willingly and he kills her himself, hey he got even Mace and Kit Fisto and even Anakin and almost Luke and perhaps even could have gotten Yoda too for that matter. There's no shame if he gets her. Though if she does go MIA, it wouldn't ruin very much. If you recall, Jar Jar is seen at Padme's funeral at the end of ROTS but I don't recall seeing him after the liberation of Naboo at the end of ROTJ. Jar Jar just disappears. Why can't she? ce Personally, I think it'd be funny and cool if she did survive everything and married Luke Skywalker and Mara Jade became a Dark Jedi assigned by Sidious, not so dead, and his apprentice Darth Trion and Ahsoka eventually gets rid of her by using the Force to send her out the airlock of Sun Crusher. Then they have two sons, Ben, and Cade, who is half Togruta. Cade falls to the Dark Side after finding the Dark Holocron with a plot that has been being hatched by the Sith since Darth Bane and Malak, and involves a replica of the star forge to drain force energy and eventually become one with the DArk Side, get an outside force to get the Jedi granted emergency powers, something palpatine did but not within the Jedi Order, and then gets the Order to turn and make him the new Grandmaster and gets LUke and Ahsoka voted out and Ahsoka's padawan, evan, becomes a Dark Jedi, and calls himself Darth Paine, because he thinks Cade will let him become a Sith, but he is mistaken. Cade has gotten Jacen Solo to become his apprentice and become Darth Caedus. Also, Luke and Ahsoka had fallen in love and gotten married at the end of Episode 7, SOTF (Secrets of the Force), and realize that love is the power that the Council has falsely supressed and that it can beat the Sith hate-fueled powers. Also, Cade uses the Yuzzhan Vong, secretly controlled by his secret disciple, Ornini, and joins forces with Cad Bane. Also, Boba Fett, after being paid by the Jedi, he said he needed the money to start a family, and being convinced by Obi's ghost that sidious is the one who is truly responsible for Jango's death, and Boba and Bane face off and Boba wins. Also, they confornt CAde, who had been sending them letters calling himself the Bane of the Jedi, and in the Episode 12, Bane of the Jedi, Ahsoka manages to knock him down. He asks Luke to join him, and Luke refuses, stating that he killed Cade and he'll never join Cade, who is now known as Darth Sohne, Supreme Lord of the Sith and has then been revealed to be the Bane of the Jedi, and Cade says, "No, I am your son!", {gasp} and Ahsoka unmasks him and realizes he truly is.
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AhsokaSkywalker Registered: Jun '09	Date Posted: 6/24 2:50pm Subject: Is there a chance Ashoka will survive Order 66 and the Jedi Purge?
	Also, Yoda never threatened to take away Obi-wan's master status when they saw the video of Anakin killing the Jedi. Why would they blame Anakin if Ahsoka went bad? Also, maybe Ahsoka just fails the final trial, and Anakin furious that he almost became a Master. Then, later, he thinking himself a Maser now that he's a Sith, and offers her a chance to be his apprentice, as we know he wouldn't mind doing in Sidious and becoming Emperor himself, and tells her to go into hiding and help him defeat the Emperor later, but she never helps him.
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TheMacUnleashed Registered: Feb '09	Date Posted: 6/24 3:40pm Subject: Is there a chance Ashoka will survive Order 66 and the Jedi Purge?
	Wow, that's a lot of speculation, AhsokaSkywalker! To address a few specific theories: I don't think that she would disappear in the same way that Jar-Jar did. He wasn't a main character in the latter two movies of the PT. He appeared in all of them, but the only one he was really essential to was TPM. Ahsoka on the other hand has been getting a lot more coverage. She's played an important part in each of the episodes of TCW that she's been in. It's also my belief that she's a bit more... popular than Jar-Jar was; I don't think Lucas would leave many loose strings hanging after introducing a character that was, for the most part, well-received. In my opinion, Anakin would be willing to kill her after turning. I mean, he slaughtered the younglings without a second thought. He was willing to strangle Padme because he thought she had betrayed him, and she was the reason he had gone to the Dark Side in the first place! I think he would have done virtually anything Palpatine told him to at that point. Still, that's a really interesting idea, as is your suggestion that he teams up with Rex to save her. I'm doubtful as to whether or not Anakin would work with Rex to do such a thing: Although I could perhaps see Rex helping her, by that point I think her Master would have been too immersed in his power by then. -----signature----- "Your inner editor is a nitpicky jerk who foolishly believes that it is possible to write a brilliant first draft if you write it slowly enough." (The NaNoWriMo folks)
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Arawn_Fenn Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 6/24 7:51pm Subject: Is there a chance Ashoka will survive Order 66 and the Jedi Purge?
	AhsokaSkywalker posted: Sidious is a good liar. So fanon would have it, though he tells the truth in the films. -----signature----- "James T. Kirk was a great man... but that was another life."
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GGrievous Registered: Nov '05	Date Posted: 6/25 6:55am Subject: Is there a chance Ashoka will survive Order 66 and the Jedi Purge?
	Arawn_Fenn posted: AhsokaSkywalker posted: Sidious is a good liar. So fanon would have it, though he tells the truth in the films. Well, that speculation isn't all fanon. Sidious, indeed lied. -----signature----- "General Kenobi!....You are a bold one... Kill him!" - General Grievous, Ep 3
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Arawn_Fenn Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 6/25 4:28pm Subject: Is there a chance Ashoka will survive Order 66 and the Jedi Purge?
	GGrievous posted: Well, that speculation isn't all fanon. Sidious, indeed lied. He lied to the Senate, but not to Anakin ( other than in his unlikely statement that the Jedi would kill the Senators ). -----signature----- "James T. Kirk was a great man... but that was another life."
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ArrogantJedi Registered: Oct '08	Date Posted: 6/25 9:11pm Subject: Is there a chance Ashoka will survive Order 66 and the Jedi Purge?
	It's interesting that you mention the scenario of her discovering that Sidious was being held prisoner willingly and gets elminated by him personally - or sometime before that discovers something is suspicious with him and it's a scenario of "curiousity killed the cat". Alot of people don't like this idea because it means it would cause Ahsoka to kind of die "MIA", since no-one can find out that he is Sidious just yet, at the same time, her going "MIA" or being found dead without truly knowing what happened to her (apart from the fact that the bad guys got her) could torment Anakin. It's an interesting idea that may or may not work, some also argue that Palpatine/Sidious reveal should stay as it was in Ep3, although to be honest, we all knew it was coming and this show is pretty much mostly watched by fans who already know he is Sidious. Some people would no doubt love to see Sidious fry Ahsoka, although given his brutal nature it probably wouldn't ALL be able to be shown on screen how he kills her, apart from the fact he did it and seized the opportunity to manipulate Anakin further with it. It would also explain her absence from Ep3 and Anakin's moody nature. -----signature----- Posted By: JediGeneral55 @ 12 April 2009, 6:27am Thread: Official General Grievous in TCW Thread (Spoilers) "IM GOING WITH GRIEVOUS HE KILLED LOT'S OF JEDI AND HOW MANY HAS HAN KILLE NON GRIEVOUS 4 EVER"
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AhsokaSkywalker Registered: Jun '09	Date Posted: 6/26 7:33pm Subject: Is there a chance Ashoka will survive Order 66 and the Jedi Purge?
	Also, why did he try to avoid a fight with Obi-wan then? Why yell, don't make me kill you, instead of outright trying to kill him? Why did they have that chat about the Empire and Sith and ultimatums if not for his hesitancy? Also, to make an even better point, why was he crying after he killed the Separatists, which included Gunray, who tried to kill Padme and wanted her head on his desk? Also, he didn't even actually mention his hate for Obi-wan until after Obi-wan left him to die. Also, if you recall, Obi-wan pulled out his lightsaber and basically said he was going to kill Anakin "I will do what I must" he said, before Anakin actually attacked him. Anakin would likely be as close to Obi-wan as he was to Ahsoka, so I would think he'd at least offer her a chance to join him. In fact, it is likely he probably let her go and asked her to become "Darth Ahsoka" and help him kill Sidious so he could be the new Emperor. After all, he told Padme he planned to off Sidious and them rule the galaxy forever. If Anakin is going to keep the Rule of Two, if he had offed Obi-wan, he'd need someone to become the new apprentice, wouldn't he, if he was going to off Sidious? Also, he didn't seem to be the completely heartless unfeeling bad guy until after being informed, by a lie in fact, at least a part lie, as it was on his account she died of a broken heart, that he had destroyed Padme in his anger. Then he had nothing left. Also, if you recall, what about Luke? Vader definitely disobeyed, and presumably killed Sidious there.
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