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AhsokaSkywalker Registered: Jun '09	Date Posted: 7/9 8:56pm Subject: Is there a chance Ashoka will survive Order 66 and the Jedi Purge?
	Arawn_Fenn posted: What he said in ROTS is where the EU got the idea in the first place. "To cheat death is a power only one has achieved, but if we work together, I know we can discover the secret." But he also said that Plagius taught his apprentice everything he knew, which would imply that the apprentice also knew that power. But, as you said above, Sidious said the power has been only achieved by one. But he also yells "I have the power to save the one you love". So there's a statement that says that Plagius' apprentice, which may or may not be Sidious, knows the power and also one that definitely indicates that Sidious knows the power. So there is at least one statement, possibly two, that Sidious does know it, and only one that he doesn't. Also, how stupid would Anakin have to be not to notice that contradiction and think that Sidious is just bluffing? If he can fall for that, it's certainly probable that Ahsoka can outwit him and get away. And it makes a lot more sense than the cloning theory given by the EU as to why Sidious returns. And I have an idea of how that power might be gotten, and why so few Sith have attempted it. What if you have to shoot Force lightning into black holes, which are strong in the Dark Side of the Force, to enhance Dark Side healing powers, and to be able to cheat death, you have to shoot Force lightning into the supermassive black hole at the center of the galaxy for...say...a few minutes, and be able to use the Force to keep you and your ship from being ripped apart. That would explain why so few did it, and noone else has done it before Plagius. Also, it would explain why Plagius, with such an ego, would underestimate his apprentice Sidious. Just a thought. ------I think the baby's coming!------- ------What baby? Jedi aren't supposed to get married Ahsoka, who's the father?----- ----Funny story about that....-------- ----Luke?----- -----He's a good Jedi! Sidious was in a clone body of Luke.....----- ----Mommy, who's that?----- ---That's your Aunt Ahsoka.----- ----I didn't know she was my Aunt.---- ----Neither did I Anakin.---- ----We've got to kill her! She's in league with your Uncle Luke! She's a Sith!---- ----Leia, we are on your side! Haven't you noticed that love makes you powerful?---- ---Love is forbidden by the Jedi Code, but I see that you, like Father, could care less." ---You didn't know Anakin! He wasn't always a monster! And would you be as powerful if you never married Han?---- ---I married Han before I was inducted into the Order. I'm allowed to marry and have kids.---- ---So you've escaped through a loophole in the Jedi Code. I wasn't so lucky! Love increases your midichlorian level!---- -----Anakin, we've got to kill her!------ ----Hi Leia, and Anakin Solo, I've heard so much about you. Leia, I see you've met my wife.----- ----You won't get away Luke!----- -----Luke, I'm going to have a baby!---- ----Ahsoka, run!--- ----You're not going anywhere!---- ---Your sister is a good fighter but I'm afraid I'm going to have to kill her to get out of here!---- ----That's Leia for you.----- ----Anakin Solo, what are you doing?---- ----I can't kill them, they're having a baby.----- ----Sometimes we have to let the innocent die for the greater good.---- ----Well....I don't think so.---- ----Thank you Anakin!---- ----I see we have more training to do my son.-----
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Arawn_Fenn Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 7/9 9:00pm Subject: Is there a chance Ashoka will survive Order 66 and the Jedi Purge? - Date Edited: 7/9 9:02pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Arawn_Fenn
	AhsokaSkywalker posted: Also, how stupid would Anakin have to be not to notice that contradiction Once again, since Anakin doesn't know that Plagueis was Palpatine's master, there's no contradiction from his POV. AhsokaSkywalker posted: But he also yells "I have the power to save the one you love". Also known as "if we work together". -----signature----- "Just when you think the amount of fail cannot possibly increase, the Internet keeps on giving." - SalvorHardin "Let's see them argue with nature and persuade the nonexistent polar bears not to eat them." - crownarmourer
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AhsokaSkywalker Registered: Jun '09	Date Posted: 7/9 9:32pm Subject: Is there a chance Ashoka will survive Order 66 and the Jedi Purge?
	Arawn_Fenn posted: AhsokaSkywalker posted: Also, how stupid would Anakin have to be not to notice that contradiction Once again, since Anakin doesn't know that Plagueis was Palpatine's master, there's no contradiction from his POV. AhsokaSkywalker posted: But he also yells "I have the power to save the one you love". Also known as "if we work together". However, even so, he still says that the apprentice, not revealed to Anakin as himself...yet...was taught everything Plagius knew, which would, by implication, mean that the apprentice also knew the power. But he said it had been achieved by only ONE, yet, with the statement that Plagius taught his apprentice EVERYTHING he knew, that would imply that the power had been achieved by at least TWO. And also, how did Sidious suddenly become all wrinkled in that scene? Luke didn't become all wrinkled and he was zapped worse than Sidious. And, also, why didn't Anakin become suspicious when he learned that Plagius was Sidious' master, and he was taught the power? Why didn't Vader just use that secretly instead of throwing Sidious into the main reactor to save Luke if he did? And if he didn't, why didn't it dawn on Anakin that he'd been set up and then he kills his Master for betraying him?
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AhsokaSkywalker Registered: Jun '09	Date Posted: 7/9 9:58pm Subject: Is there a chance Ashoka will survive Order 66 and the Jedi Purge?
	1.) Nothing rules out that Sidious can't know the power of Plagius, as he could be the apprentice, as I heard he grins when he says that Plagius' apprentice, the one whom Plagius taught everything he knew, including the power if true, murdered Plagius in his sleep. Also, how else would he know of Plagius? The Sith have been extinct supposedly for a thousand years? If Anakin never heard of Plagius, he wasn't in the Jedi archives which would mean he was in power during the 1000 years the Sith were thought to be extinct, and that would include the time Sidious was trained. 2.) Sidious would know the power by ROTJ.
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Arawn_Fenn Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 7/10 8:35am Subject: Is there a chance Ashoka will survive Order 66 and the Jedi Purge? - Date Edited: 7/10 8:50am (6 edits total) Edited By: Arawn_Fenn
	AhsokaSkywalker posted: Also, how else would he know of Plagius? Presumably the Sith have records of earlier Sith. See: holocrons. AhsokaSkywalker posted: However, even so, he still says that the apprentice, not revealed to Anakin as himself...yet...was taught everything Plagius knew, which would, by implication, mean that the apprentice also knew the power. But he said it had been achieved by only ONE, yet, with the statement that Plagius taught his apprentice EVERYTHING he knew, that would imply that the power had been achieved by at least TWO. The apprentice learning Plagueis' knowledge doesn't necessarily mean that the apprentice achieved the ability. He may not have been strong enough in the dark side of the Force to achieve it, or he may have been killed before having adequate time to put the theory into practice. AhsokaSkywalker posted: And also, how did Sidious suddenly become all wrinkled in that scene? Luke didn't become all wrinkled and he was zapped worse than Sidious. That is a completely separate issue. AhsokaSkywalker posted: Why didn't Vader just use that secretly instead of throwing Sidious into the main reactor to save Luke if he did? According to Death Star, neither Plagueis nor Vader learned the ability to "preserve the immortal ego". AhsokaSkywalker posted: And if he didn't, why didn't it dawn on Anakin that he'd been set up and then he kills his Master for betraying him? Mutual dependency, and weakness to Force lightning. He does in fact consider killing Sidious, both in ROTS itself and afterwards, continuing into the OT era. Treachery is the way of the Sith. -----signature----- "Just when you think the amount of fail cannot possibly increase, the Internet keeps on giving." - SalvorHardin "Let's see them argue with nature and persuade the nonexistent polar bears not to eat them." - crownarmourer
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GARTH_MAUL Title: LACWAC Manager & White Wizard Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 7/10 9:42am Subject: Is there a chance Ashoka will survive Order 66 and the Jedi Purge?
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AhsokaSkywalker Registered: Jun '09	Date Posted: 7/10 10:25am Subject: Is there a chance Ashoka will survive Order 66 and the Jedi Purge?
	Arawn_Fenn posted: AhsokaSkywalker posted: Also, how else would he know of Plagius? Presumably the Sith have records of earlier Sith. See: holocrons. AhsokaSkywalker posted: However, even so, he still says that the apprentice, not revealed to Anakin as himself...yet...was taught everything Plagius knew, which would, by implication, mean that the apprentice also knew the power. But he said it had been achieved by only ONE, yet, with the statement that Plagius taught his apprentice EVERYTHING he knew, that would imply that the power had been achieved by at least TWO. The apprentice learning Plagueis' knowledge doesn't necessarily mean that the apprentice achieved the ability. He may not have been strong enough in the dark side of the Force to achieve it, or he may have been killed before having adequate time to put the theory into practice. AhsokaSkywalker posted: And also, how did Sidious suddenly become all wrinkled in that scene? Luke didn't become all wrinkled and he was zapped worse than Sidious. That is a completely separate issue. AhsokaSkywalker posted: Why didn't Vader just use that secretly instead of throwing Sidious into the main reactor to save Luke if he did? According to Death Star, neither Plagueis nor Vader learned the ability to "preserve the immortal ego". AhsokaSkywalker posted: And if he didn't, why didn't it dawn on Anakin that he'd been set up and then he kills his Master for betraying him? Mutual dependency, and weakness to Force lightning. He does in fact consider killing Sidious, both in ROTS itself and afterwards, continuing into the OT era. Treachery is the way of the Sith. I know that power would probably have to be constantly activated on Anakin as he would need it constantly to breathe. Also, doesn't Death Star II have a spare breathing machine handy? What I had meant is why didn't Vader use that power on Luke and while the Emperor was confused why Luke wasn't dying, Vader would stab Sidious with his lightsaber and Force push him into the main reactor? Why didn't Vader just decapitate the Emperor like he did Dooku or Force push him into the main reactor while the Emperor was distracted attacking Luke? He could have lived...which means that maybe GL would have made more Episodes, like Episode 7, etc. Also, about the Sith always turning on each other, why isn't it likely that Vader could have tried to form an alliance with Ahsoka to take care of Sidious and let her go but she didn't help him? Or he might just let her go. Ventress can't get redemption if she was slaughtered like an animal by Anakin for killing Ahsoka. Dooku could, possibly, as he hasn't actually killed anyone, besides space pirates, and he hasn't, at least I don't recall, killed a Jedi. However, if he killed Ahsoka, Anakin probably would've killed Dooku as soon as Palpatine told him to kill him the first time, or even before then. If Grevious killed her, then Anakin would have probably tried something stupid when they met on the Invisible Hand. He probably would have once again not used his common sense and charged Dooku by himself again and possibly gotten zapped again if Dooku had killed Ahsoka. Also, Anakin has been known to disobey the Council, and he would probably be a lot angrier at not being able to fight Grevious than he appeared in ROTS if Grevious had killed Ahsoka. Also, he would have probably gone for Grevious first instead trying to escape and only confronting Grevious because he was captured. I really like Anakin, yeah he's Darth Vader, and I like Ahsoka a lot too. If Anakin kills Ahsoka, I'll both be a broken Jedi because she died and I'd probably hate Anakin and he definitely wouldn't be my favorite character, probably one of my most hated. Also, Anakin might lose popularity if he kills Ahsoka. Not to mention, Anakin doesn't exactly kill those he's close to, except Obi-wan and possibly Luke when he swung at him and told him that he was unwise to lower his defenses. He doesn't want to kill Luke, though in ROTJ, it seems that the Emperor has corrupted him enough to make him do it if Luke won't turn, perhaps anyway, and he doesn't kill Padme, she died of a broken heart, and he didn't even attack Obi-wan when he saw him on Padme's ship. He went for Padme. If attachment is the cause of his downfall, then it could also get him to spare Ahsoka, even as Vader. Sidious could, and, though I'd be very upset about her death, if Sidious killed her I'll feel that she died nobly, as Sidious even kills Kit Fisto, presumably Mace, and even Anakin himself. Also, if Anakin gets her, it would make more sense, though I'd be furious at him and George Lucas, because Anakin does even kill Obi-wan after all. If she must die, and not of old age, I'd say let her be killed by Sidious or Vader, as they've killed some of the other main characters. Also, Leia is attached to Han. How can she become a Jedi? She'd have to marry him before she got inducted into the Order.
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AhsokaSkywalker Registered: Jun '09	Date Posted: 7/10 10:40am Subject: Is there a chance Ashoka will survive Order 66 and the Jedi Purge?
	TheMacUnleashed posted: Darth_Porker posted: Thinking of a creative ending what if Ashoka finished training and went towards a far part of the galaxy like yoda or got into a fight with Ventress and crash landed on a remote planet and from there on should be a mystery. Well thats what George will probably do considering kids 9+ really have a liking to all main charecters in seris they are fond of. That would work, but it's still inconclusive. I think if Ahsoka were to survive Order 66, and still be remaining with the Order, than they might show her going off to become part of the Rebellion. Of course, there would still be a period of wait between the Rise of the Empire, and when the Rebellion we know was formed. Do you think that the Empire would hunt her down? They were very thorough in eliminating the Enclaves. Obi-Wan and Yoda were able to survive, but they were both very powerful, and they chose remote locations to hide. AhsokaSkywalker posted: Also, I think I've got just as much of an imagination as GL. Do you ever write fanfiction? You've come up with a lot of theories that could probably be turned into good stories. Yes. In mine, Luke marries Ahsoka and the Emperor and his new Imperial Guard apprentice Darth Trion ask the Dark Jedi Mary Jade to try to flirt with Luke or distract him and get him away from Ahsoka and alone with him and then literally stab him in the back before Luke and Ahsoka can defeat them, which doesn't work, as Ahsoka foils her and later sends her out the airlock of Sun Crusher, where either she dies or she somehow breaks into a ship and jumps into its escape pod and is picked up by Sidious and Trion, then trains Luke and Ahsoka's son, Cade Skywalker, in the ways of the Dark Side and helps him find the Dark Holocron, but he then literally stabs her in the back and then becomes Darth Sohne, Dark Lord of the Sith, besides Sidious, who is still alive and has given his position to Cade in an attempt to get Cade to be his apprentice, but Darth Sohne gives the location to Luke and Ahsoka so he won't have Sidious to compete with. He battles Jacen, who finds him, and they fight, while both only being ten-year-old Padawans, while Sidious and Trion fight Luke and Ahsoka. Luke almost kills Sidious, but won't kill Sidious when he is unarmed, and Sidious nearly gets Luke, but Ahsoka manages, along with Vader's Force ghost, to convince Trion that Sidious always uses his apprentices, causing Trion to stop fighting Ahsoka and stab Sidious in the back, killing him for good. Then, after being mortally wounded by Luke, Trion says that he regrets his dark ways and feels that the Dark Side was the wrong side to be on, and somehow gets a bit of redemption and then dies. Luke and Ahsoka think they have beaten the Sith for all time, in spite of the fact that Luke hasn't had a Sith Master in his family yet, which means he wouldn't be the Chosen One. However, Luke is, as Cade is now the new Dark Lord of the Sith. Cade manages to knock away Jacen's lightsaber, and asks him to join him. Jacen hears Luke and Ahsoka saying that Sidious and Trion are dead, and Jacen tries to run in and tell them that there is still a Sith Lord, but Cade closes the door. He then manages to lure Jacen in with promises of power and Jacen becomes his apprentice, Darth Caedus.
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AhsokaSkywalker Registered: Jun '09	Date Posted: 7/10 11:11am Subject: Is there a chance Ashoka will survive Order 66 and the Jedi Purge?
	GARTH_MAUL posted: Stay on target, this is off-topic. I was trying to discuss an option where Ahsoka marries Luke and they team up against Sidious, who would know the power of Darth Plagius, and use it to cheat death on Death Star II, and his new apprentice. And yes, I've taken care of the obvious Mara Jade problem. She's a Dark Jedi working for the Empire trying to flirt with Luke and get alone with him so she can kill Luke by stabbing him in the back with her lightsaber, without Ahsoka being there to stop her, and she almost gets but Ahsoka manages to foil her attempt, and she, now exposed as a Dark Jedi, has to flee. That option, while a bit bizarre would give Ahsoka a more conclusive tale, and a greater one than dying or disappearing. And it could continue the Saga if GL likes it. -----I'll never join you Sohne, you killed my son!----- ----No, fools, Iam your son!----- ----I'll just see for myself! This can't be true....oh....Cade, nooooo!----- ----Sorry to break the news to you Snips but your little Cade is Supreme Lord of the Sith.-----
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Gry Sarth Title: Moderator: LACWAC Registered: Jun '99	Date Posted: 7/10 12:23pm Subject: Is there a chance Ashoka will survive Order 66 and the Jedi Purge? - Date Edited: 7/10 1:04pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Gry Sarth
	Shouldn't this whole thing be in the Fan-Fiction forums? I haven't read AhsokaSkywalker's posts but just from glimpsing things like "Ahsoka marries Luke" this whole discussion doesn't strike me as realistic conjecturing on Ahsoka's fate. Yes Garth! I'm after your job! -----signature----- If it weren't for bad luck I'd have no luck at all.
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AhsokaSkywalker Registered: Jun '09	Date Posted: 7/10 2:00pm Subject: Is there a chance Ashoka will survive Order 66 and the Jedi Purge?
	GARTH_MAUL posted: Thank you for the last couple of posts. Let's stay on target, troopers. And my feeling is that Ahsoka will go out in a blaze of glory, showing Anakin she truly learned to be an excellent Jedi. Do you think even GL and Eckstein know what will happen to Ahsoka yet? I thought I heard somewhere that she wasn't going to die. Anyway, the most likely ones, are Dooku, though why Anakin hesitated to kill him in ROTS would be a mystery though, Ventress, though it would seem that Anakin would make sure she was dead, and possibly KO Obi-wan, or something, if he tried to stop him, and then Obi-wan wakes up and Anakin says Ventress attacked him and then he killed Ventress, Grevious, though Anakin didn't have an angry looks in his eyes when confronting Dooku or Grevious, nor did he try anything foolish with Grevious, like he did that one time with Dooku, as he almost surely would have done had Grevious killed Ahsoka. It would be too lame if a droid or droids killed her or if she dies in some accident or of some disease. That leaves her either leaving the Jedi Order, voluntarily or otherwise, escaping Order 66 and possibly the Purge, or being killed by Anakin or Sidious. Having Snips being killed by Skyguy will make a lot of people upset. It would probably be damaging for Anakin's character, since killing his one and only sweet Padawan Ahsoka is far worse than killing a bunch of young kids armed with training lightsabers. Also, Ahsoka could outwit Anakin. Obi-wan did, and Sidious didn't really seem to think Yoda was that powerful, as he only sent two clones to take out Yoda, so they Sith can be outsmarted. After all, I'm sure Vader wasn't planning on Marek/Starkiller actually helping the Rebel Alliance do anything more than expose themselves so Palpatine could execute them, but he did. She wouldn't be the only apprentice of Vader's to outsmart him. Also, maybe Vader spares her on purpose. Maybe he thinks Obi-wan and Yoda may have died, though he's probably not so sure about Obi-wan, and he knows Ahsoka is alive, and that's why he's smug when the Imperial Officer tells him he's the last follower of his sad little religion. Also, Vader lives in his own little universe and does things that don't necessarily help the Empire, or even his Master. If Vader doesn't kill her, and she still is killed, that leaves Sidious. It would kinda make sense...after all....Sidious even kill Skyguy. However, the thought of her dying a slow painful death from Force lightning or even Force choke, though that one's quicker, is a bit harsh and probably might be a little too much for the fans, even the ones that don't really care for her. Anakin could, to increase the scope of his betrayal, and also the fact that Anakin was the death of Obi-wan after all. But I prefer that she survives. So what happens to her then? I did just think that Vader could kill her with Force lightning, which again is probably a bit too much, but the Vader fans no doubt would like to see him use Force lightning, though all of us Ahsoka fans hope he chooses a different target than Ahsoka. So what do you think Ahsoka would do if she survived the Clone Wars series, Order 66, and the Great Jedi Purge and the First Galactic Civil War? Would she find Rotta and help him take back Jabba's crime empire and sympathize with him because Jabba left him out of the will and end up serving as Rotta the Hutt's enforcer? Does she open a cantina on Shili? Does she move to another galaxy and help in the Star Trek battles? Does she move to the Milky Way? Does she join Vader and help him kill the Younglings? The only other option for her surviving besides escaping Vader and the clones is going to the Dark Side. But the fans would sooner see her die, though they don't want that either, than go to the Dark Side. She's supposed to be a role model....which would imply she chooses a different path from Anakin.
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AhsokaSkywalker Registered: Jun '09	Date Posted: 7/10 2:08pm Subject: Could Ahsoka become a Dark Side follower like Skyguy?
	Also, why does the Twi'leek girl at the top of the page have only one leg? I thought she had two in the series. Also, why did she bite that clone? I Twi'leeks were sentient beings, like Togrutas like Ahsoka, that didn't bite and do weird stuff like that. They're not Wookies after all. Also, have you heard of a Togruta going to the Dark Side, either as a Sith or a Dark Jedi? I can't find any that did. Cody Ti is the closest, but he was expelled from the Order for seeking revenge of GG. And he never, besides perhaps for wanting GG (General Grevious) dead, didn't really use the Dark Side. Anyway, no Togruta I've found has ever actually become a Dark Jedi like Ventress or a Sith (Master or Apprentice) like Vader or Sidious. I don't think having Ahsoka would go bad, as it would seem she'd be the first Togruta in Galactic history to do so, and likely the only one. What do you think?
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TheMacUnleashed Registered: Feb '09	Date Posted: 7/10 2:45pm Subject: Is there a chance Ashoka will survive Order 66 and the Jedi Purge?
	Twi'leks are sentient species, very much so! I think she bit the clone in self-defense. Also, if you look closely, she does have two legs. Sorry; that was off-topic. Anyway, I don't think species has much to do with one's likelihood of turning. Authors, artists, anyone contributing to the EU has an enormous number of species to choose from to work with. Humans, if I remember correctly, have the highest population in the GFFA, so if more of them have gone to the Dark Side, then it's probably because of the greater number. Also, AhsokaSkywalker, I think you hit upon a major point when you said Ahsoka is "Supposed to be a role model...". How far can LucasFilm go before she just becomes a a vessel to rope in younger viewers? I think she needs to be developed more as a character. This could include her turning -After all, how come she's been allowed to show so much emotion without getting reprimanded for it? I expect that Anakin is probably a bit more lenient as a Master than Obi-Wan was, but when we see them onscreen, the usually have another Jedi accompanying them. Why has she gotten away with so much? Another way to develop her would be to actually show her losing a battle. That might, or might not, result in her death. Even if she makes it to Order 66 and she's still a Jedi, for the reasons above, I can't see her surviving. It makes little sense that a seventeen/eighteen year old apprentice could easily survive execution, whereas stronger Jedi -Aayla Secura, for example- who was fully trained could be so easily killed. To be honest, I think her surviving would turn her into what authors refer to as a 'Mary-Sue'- Basically, a character that's way too perfect and can get away with things nobody else could. -----signature----- "Your inner editor is a nitpicky jerk who foolishly believes that it is possible to write a brilliant first draft if you write it slowly enough." (The NaNoWriMo folks)
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GARTH_MAUL Title: LACWAC Manager & White Wizard Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 7/10 3:47pm Subject: Is there a chance Ashoka will survive Order 66 and the Jedi Purge? - Date Edited: 7/10 4:00pm (1 edits total) Edited By: GARTH_MAUL
	Ahsoka - I've warned you about spamming this thread. If this continues, you're headed for a ban, I'm sorry to say. With respect to your idea that Ashoka marries Luke, that is clearly in the realm of fanfiction. The Saga is Complete. Please stay on the topic of Ashoka post-TCW without delving into the realm of complete fantasy (i.e., completely contradicting ROTS, ANH, ESB and ROTJ. Thanks, G_M. -----signature----- Dustin + Tina = 5 years of marriage Obama given First Annual Montgomery Burns Award for Outstanding Achievement in the Field of Excellence
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AhsokaSkywalker Registered: Jun '09	Date Posted: 7/10 7:30pm Subject: Is there a chance Ashoka will survive Order 66 and the Jedi Purge?
	TheMacUnleashed posted: Twi'leks are sentient species, very much so! I think she bit the clone in self-defense. Also, if you look closely, she does have two legs. Sorry; that was off-topic. Anyway, I don't think species has much to do with one's likelihood of turning. Authors, artists, anyone contributing to the EU has an enormous number of species to choose from to work with. Humans, if I remember correctly, have the highest population in the GFFA, so if more of them have gone to the Dark Side, then it's probably because of the greater number. Also, AhsokaSkywalker, I think you hit upon a major point when you said Ahsoka is "Supposed to be a role model...". How far can LucasFilm go before she just becomes a a vessel to rope in younger viewers? I think she needs to be developed more as a character. This could include her turning -After all, how come she's been allowed to show so much emotion without getting reprimanded for it? I expect that Anakin is probably a bit more lenient as a Master than Obi-Wan was, but when we see them onscreen, the usually have another Jedi accompanying them. Why has she gotten away with so much? Another way to develop her would be to actually show her losing a battle. That might, or might not, result in her death. Even if she makes it to Order 66 and she's still a Jedi, for the reasons above, I can't see her surviving. It makes little sense that a seventeen/eighteen year old apprentice could easily survive execution, whereas stronger Jedi -Aayla Secura, for example- who was fully trained could be so easily killed. To be honest, I think her surviving would turn her into what authors refer to as a 'Mary-Sue'- Basically, a character that's way too perfect and can get away with things nobody else could. You mean like Anakin? He got away with being married to Padme and going gung ho on the sand people. Is it too much to ask that Ahsoka be able to do the same? Also, Obi-wan seemed to know about Anakin and Padme, and perhaps Ahsoka finds out too, and he's worried that she'll give away his secret by screaming it out if he tries to kill her so he doesn't or sends a clone, which of course she kills and is very confused why a clone tried to kill her. It would be possible Ahsoka could get away where most Jedi didn't. Anakin trained her after all, which could be a problem if Sidious assigns him to personally kill her. Also, why did they only send two clones for Yoda. Some of Order 66 didn't make sense, so there again the Empire could have underestimated her and she got away. Now, whether she can survive the Imperial hunters like Galen Marek is another thing. Actually, since Marek is Anakin's other apprentice, if she does survive Order 66, I wouldn't be surprised if the two meet. I'd talk more about what I'd like to do with Ahsoka, but Garth Maul has been sent by the Empire to keep me down, so I'll just say that my name shows what I'd like to do and just talk about why so-and-so couldn't have killed her, and keep explaining why I think/know she survived the Clone Wars and the Great Jedi Purge from now on. And I can get other aliases too, in case Garth Maul tells Palpatine I don't like him yelling at me.
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