GARTH_MAUL posted:Ahsoka - I've warned you about spamming this thread. If this continues, you're headed for a ban, I'm sorry to say. With respect to your idea that Ashoka marries Luke, that is clearly in the realm of fanfiction. The Saga is Complete. Please stay on the topic of Ashoka post-TCW without delving into the realm of complete fantasy (i.e., completely contradicting ROTS, ANH, ESB and ROTJ. Thanks, G_M.
AhsokaSkywalker posted:GARTH_MAUL posted:Ahsoka - I've warned you about spamming this thread. If this continues, you're headed for a ban, I'm sorry to say. With respect to your idea that Ashoka marries Luke, that is clearly in the realm of fanfiction. The Saga is Complete. Please stay on the topic of Ashoka post-TCW without delving into the realm of complete fantasy (i.e., completely contradicting ROTS, ANH, ESB and ROTJ. Thanks, G_M. Do you know something the rest of us don't about Ahsoka's fate? If so, please tell us so we can stop this debate. I think my warning was sufficiently clear. G_M.
AhsokaSkywalker posted:You mean like Anakin? He got away with being married to Padme and going gung ho on the sand people. Is it too much to ask that Ahsoka be able to do the same?
TheMacUnleashed posted:Also, I don't think that there were just two clones sent for Yoda, although I could be wrong about that- It's been a little while since I've watched ROTS. I think Order 66 was executed using whatever clones were with the Jedi at the time to shoot them. That worked well, for the most part, because very few Jedi were without troopers.
DarthBoba posted: Really, the first thing the Jedi should've done at Anakin's news would have been an immediate order to all Republic forces to not accept any orders from the Chancellor. I mean, who leaves a Sith Lord in charge of millions of completely loyal perfect soldiers? Or heck, just destroy the Holonet system linking to the Chancellor's office.
DarthBoba posted:Just a random thought here-Ahsoka arguably could have been a much better Padawan for Kenobi. It's pretty much a given that she'll die eventually (IMO) and that Anakin will respond as Anakin always does-by getting darker. Which won't really be all that interesting, if you ask me-we know Anakin gets angry when people he cares about are threatened. However, if she died while under Obi-Wan's care, we could have a very interesting story arc as we see how Obi-Wan would deal with this. We know he does get attached, as TPM and ROTS both showed to dramatic effect, and Obi-Wan doesn't really have a great deal of emotional investment from any source. But anyway-I'd say close to the end of the series, probably in some heroic fashion. Although maybe she'll just get caught in a trash compactor.
TheMacUnleashed posted:AhsokaSkywalker posted:You mean like Anakin? He got away with being married to Padme and going gung ho on the sand people. Is it too much to ask that Ahsoka be able to do the same? Well, nobody -Save for Sidious- knew about his marriage, or the slaughter. With Ahsoka, she's been flaunting her emotions in front of elder Jedi. And Obi-Wan has reprimanded Anakin before; we saw him do that numerous times in AOTC. And -while I do think he should have been more in-control of his emotions- Anakin has some excuses, to a point. He wasn't raised in the Temple like Ahsoka was. He had to live life as a slave; she didn't. I think that we need to see her be a more... believable character, and honestly, I don't see how she could be, if she makes it out of Order 66 alive. Also, Obi-wan seemed to know about Anakin and Padme, and perhaps Ahsoka finds out too, and he's worried that she'll give away his secret by screaming it out if he tries to kill her so he doesn't or sends a clone, which of course she kills and is very confused why a clone tried to kill her. Or the clone could succeed. It would be especially interesting if Anakin sent Rex to do the job, as we've seen him have a sort of friendship with her before. It would be possible Ahsoka could get away where most Jedi didn't. Anakin trained her after all, which could be a problem if Sidious assigns him to personally kill her. But why could she get away with more? A lot of the time we've seen her and Anakin, another Jedi has been with them. (My apologizes to G_M at this point- that might have been a bit off-topic.) What would Vader to if Sidious told him to murder his (former?) Padawan? We know he was willing to duel with Obi-Wan, although whether or not he enjoyed doing so is debatable. Would he really have a stronger attachment with Ahsoka than he did the man who trained him for ten years, and whom we know he had a close friendship to? Also, why did they only send two clones for Yoda? Some of Order 66 didn't make sense, so there again the Empire could have underestimated her and she got away. That would be possible! Still, I'm not sure if Vader would underestimate her; after all, he trained her. Also, I don't think that there were just two clones sent for Yoda, although I could be wrong about that- It's been a little while since I've watched ROTS. I think Order 66 was executed using whatever clones were with the Jedi at the time to shoot them. That worked well, for the most part, because very few Jedi were without troopers.
GARTH_MAUL posted:Guys, don't make me destroy this thread.
LukeTano posted:TheMacUnleashed posted:AhsokaSkywalker posted:You mean like Anakin? He got away with being married to Padme and going gung ho on the sand people. Is it too much to ask that Ahsoka be able to do the same? Well, nobody -Save for Sidious- knew about his marriage, or the slaughter. With Ahsoka, she's been flaunting her emotions in front of elder Jedi. And Obi-Wan has reprimanded Anakin before; we saw him do that numerous times in AOTC. And -while I do think he should have been more in-control of his emotions- Anakin has some excuses, to a point. He wasn't raised in the Temple like Ahsoka was. He had to live life as a slave; she didn't. I think that we need to see her be a more... believable character, and honestly, I don't see how she could be, if she makes it out of Order 66 alive. Also, Obi-wan seemed to know about Anakin and Padme, and perhaps Ahsoka finds out too, and he's worried that she'll give away his secret by screaming it out if he tries to kill her so he doesn't or sends a clone, which of course she kills and is very confused why a clone tried to kill her. Or the clone could succeed. It would be especially interesting if Anakin sent Rex to do the job, as we've seen him have a sort of friendship with her before. It would be possible Ahsoka could get away where most Jedi didn't. Anakin trained her after all, which could be a problem if Sidious assigns him to personally kill her. But why could she get away with more? A lot of the time we've seen her and Anakin, another Jedi has been with them. (My apologizes to G_M at this point- that might have been a bit off-topic.) What would Vader to if Sidious told him to murder his (former?) Padawan? We know he was willing to duel with Obi-Wan, although whether or not he enjoyed doing so is debatable. Would he really have a stronger attachment with Ahsoka than he did the man who trained him for ten years, and whom we know he had a close friendship to? Also, why did they only send two clones for Yoda? Some of Order 66 didn't make sense, so there again the Empire could have underestimated her and she got away. That would be possible! Still, I'm not sure if Vader would underestimate her; after all, he trained her. Also, I don't think that there were just two clones sent for Yoda, although I could be wrong about that- It's been a little while since I've watched ROTS. I think Order 66 was executed using whatever clones were with the Jedi at the time to shoot them. That worked well, for the most part, because very few Jedi were without troopers. What I meant is, Anakin seems like a Mary Sue character. He never gets in trouble for his marriage to Padme or killing the Sandpeople. He survives on Mustafar and even manages to be the sole, minus those guys who deserted and eventually joined the Alliance or never came back to the Empire anyway in the novel Deathstar, survivor of the destruction of the first Death Star, not to mention the attempt(s) to assassinate him, and the two times that Ahsoka saved him to the one time that he saved her. Anakin does seem to get away with a lot. Also, he can bully Imperial Officers and even choke them and get away with it. Also, he can directly argue with the Council about not becoming a Master and only be told to sit down. Also, he is a bit lucky he didn't die when he blew up the Trade Federation's control ship in TPM. Isn't it a bit reasonable to consider that his Padawan Ahsoka may get away with more than most Jedi would? Also, Sidious seems to get away with everything, until the end. He manipulates Padme and becomes Supreme Chancellor. He eggs on Dooku and creates the war so he can get more power. Then he later turns on Dooku. Then the Jedi grow suspicious, but he meanwhile tries to turn Anakin. Anakin is too thick to act, and the Council doesn't, or so it would seem, bother to tell the rest of the Order that they've learned that Palpatine is Sidious. And the Council is suspicious of Palpatine yet they don't seem to bother to try to keep Anakin away from him...at least not until it was kind of too late. And Sidious somehow gets the Senate to actually accept the end of Democracy and the whole Galactic Empire thing. I think I saw him waving his hand, but surely there had to be senators who that wouldn't work on, besides the Organas and Padme, present. Also, why did they clap. Also, the Emperor almost got away with letting the Alliance get the Imperial Shuttle and land on the forest moon and getting them to die in his booby traps and he nearly turned Luke. It was only then that he kinda got foiled. Also, he managed to, if not beat, at least not get beaten by Grandmaster Yoda. And he never got offed by his power-hungry apprentice Vader, until the scene near the end of ROTJ. There's two right there. And Obi-wan is a bit deceptive and can go around and act like he knows about the clone army being made that he really has no idea about and the Kaminoans believe him. And he escapes the Fetts, and the arena along with Anakin and Padme, and he even escaped Dooku, Grevious, and even Order 66, and Darth Vader on Mustafar. And he also survived till ANH too. And Yoda only had two clones and survived that big fall in the Senate Room and also survived till ESB, and into ROTJ. And Yoda survied Order 66, and also that battle with Ventress' droids, and with Dooku, and with the clones at the Temple, along with Obi-wan. And Luke survived the three TIE Fighters, including Vader, his Father, thanks to Han, nearly got offed by the Imperials who killed the Lars family, and nearly got nabbed at Mos Eisley, and the Death Star, and would have died if Han hadn't rescued him on Hoth, and also almost got crushed by an Imperial Walker, and could have easily have died on Bespin, and possibly on Dagobah with all the creatures running around, and with Jabba, and with Vader and the Emperor and escaped Death Star II seconds before that part blew up. So Ahsoks wouldn't be the first to get away with a lot, if she does, which I hope she does.
LukeTano posted:GARTH_MAUL posted:Guys, don't make me destroy this thread. Can't we just create more if you do? There did seem like I found a "Create Thread" button somewhere.
Game3525 posted:LukeTano posted:TheMacUnleashed posted:[quote=AhsokaSkywalker]You mean like Anakin? He got away with being married to Padme and going gung ho on the sand people. Is it too much to ask that Ahsoka be able to do the same? Well, nobody -Save for Sidious- knew about his marriage, or the slaughter. With Ahsoka, she's been flaunting her emotions in front of elder Jedi. And Obi-Wan has reprimanded Anakin before; we saw him do that numerous times in AOTC. And -while I do think he should have been more in-control of his emotions- Anakin has some excuses, to a point. He wasn't raised in the Temple like Ahsoka was. He had to live life as a slave; she didn't. I think that we need to see her be a more... believable character, and honestly, I don't see how she could be, if she makes it out of Order 66 alive. Also, Obi-wan seemed to know about Anakin and Padme, and perhaps Ahsoka finds out too, and he's worried that she'll give away his secret by screaming it out if he tries to kill her so he doesn't or sends a clone, which of course she kills and is very confused why a clone tried to kill her. Or the clone could succeed. It would be especially interesting if Anakin sent Rex to do the job, as we've seen him have a sort of friendship with her before. It would be possible Ahsoka could get away where most Jedi didn't. Anakin trained her after all, which could be a problem if Sidious assigns him to personally kill her. But why could she get away with more? A lot of the time we've seen her and Anakin, another Jedi has been with them. (My apologizes to G_M at this point- that might have been a bit off-topic.) What would Vader to if Sidious told him to murder his (former?) Padawan? We know he was willing to duel with Obi-Wan, although whether or not he enjoyed doing so is debatable. Would he really have a stronger attachment with Ahsoka than he did the man who trained him for ten years, and whom we know he had a close friendship to? Also, why did they only send two clones for Yoda? Some of Order 66 didn't make sense, so there again the Empire could have underestimated her and she got away. That would be possible! Still, I'm not sure if Vader would underestimate her; after all, he trained her. Also, I don't think that there were just two clones sent for Yoda, although I could be wrong about that- It's been a little while since I've watched ROTS. I think Order 66 was executed using whatever clones were with the Jedi at the time to shoot them. That worked well, for the most part, because very few Jedi were without troopers. What I meant is, Anakin seems like a Mary Sue character. He never gets in trouble for his marriage to Padme or killing the Sandpeople. He survives on Mustafar and even manages to be the sole, minus those guys who deserted and eventually joined the Alliance or never came back to the Empire anyway in the novel Deathstar, survivor of the destruction of the first Death Star, not to mention the attempt(s) to assassinate him, and the two times that Ahsoka saved him to the one time that he saved her. Anakin does seem to get away with a lot. Also, he can bully Imperial Officers and even choke them and get away with it. Also, he can directly argue with the Council about not becoming a Master and only be told to sit down. Also, he is a bit lucky he didn't die when he blew up the Trade Federation's control ship in TPM. Isn't it a bit reasonable to consider that his Padawan Ahsoka may get away with more than most Jedi would? Also, Sidious seems to get away with everything, until the end. He manipulates Padme and becomes Supreme Chancellor. He eggs on Dooku and creates the war so he can get more power. Then he later turns on Dooku. Then the Jedi grow suspicious, but he meanwhile tries to turn Anakin. Anakin is too thick to act, and the Council doesn't, or so it would seem, bother to tell the rest of the Order that they've learned that Palpatine is Sidious. And the Council is suspicious of Palpatine yet they don't seem to bother to try to keep Anakin away from him...at least not until it was kind of too late. And Sidious somehow gets the Senate to actually accept the end of Democracy and the whole Galactic Empire thing. I think I saw him waving his hand, but surely there had to be senators who that wouldn't work on, besides the Organas and Padme, present. Also, why did they clap. Also, the Emperor almost got away with letting the Alliance get the Imperial Shuttle and land on the forest moon and getting them to die in his booby traps and he nearly turned Luke. It was only then that he kinda got foiled. Also, he managed to, if not beat, at least not get beaten by Grandmaster Yoda. And he never got offed by his power-hungry apprentice Vader, until the scene near the end of ROTJ. There's two right there. And Obi-wan is a bit deceptive and can go around and act like he knows about the clone army being made that he really has no idea about and the Kaminoans believe him. And he escapes the Fetts, and the arena along with Anakin and Padme, and he even escaped Dooku, Grevious, and even Order 66, and Darth Vader on Mustafar. And he also survived till ANH too. And Yoda only had two clones and survived that big fall in the Senate Room and also survived till ESB, and into ROTJ. And Yoda survied Order 66, and also that battle with Ventress' droids, and with Dooku, and with the clones at the Temple, along with Obi-wan. And Luke survived the three TIE Fighters, including Vader, his Father, thanks to Han, nearly got offed by the Imperials who killed the Lars family, and nearly got nabbed at Mos Eisley, and the Death Star, and would have died if Han hadn't rescued him on Hoth, and also almost got crushed by an Imperial Walker, and could have easily have died on Bespin, and possibly on Dagobah with all the creatures running around, and with Jabba, and with Vader and the Emperor and escaped Death Star II seconds before that part blew up. So Ahsoks wouldn't be the first to get away with a lot, if she does, which I hope she does.
LukeTano posted:TheMacUnleashed posted:[quote=AhsokaSkywalker]You mean like Anakin? He got away with being married to Padme and going gung ho on the sand people. Is it too much to ask that Ahsoka be able to do the same? Well, nobody -Save for Sidious- knew about his marriage, or the slaughter. With Ahsoka, she's been flaunting her emotions in front of elder Jedi. And Obi-Wan has reprimanded Anakin before; we saw him do that numerous times in AOTC. And -while I do think he should have been more in-control of his emotions- Anakin has some excuses, to a point. He wasn't raised in the Temple like Ahsoka was. He had to live life as a slave; she didn't. I think that we need to see her be a more... believable character, and honestly, I don't see how she could be, if she makes it out of Order 66 alive. Also, Obi-wan seemed to know about Anakin and Padme, and perhaps Ahsoka finds out too, and he's worried that she'll give away his secret by screaming it out if he tries to kill her so he doesn't or sends a clone, which of course she kills and is very confused why a clone tried to kill her. Or the clone could succeed. It would be especially interesting if Anakin sent Rex to do the job, as we've seen him have a sort of friendship with her before. It would be possible Ahsoka could get away where most Jedi didn't. Anakin trained her after all, which could be a problem if Sidious assigns him to personally kill her. But why could she get away with more? A lot of the time we've seen her and Anakin, another Jedi has been with them. (My apologizes to G_M at this point- that might have been a bit off-topic.) What would Vader to if Sidious told him to murder his (former?) Padawan? We know he was willing to duel with Obi-Wan, although whether or not he enjoyed doing so is debatable. Would he really have a stronger attachment with Ahsoka than he did the man who trained him for ten years, and whom we know he had a close friendship to? Also, why did they only send two clones for Yoda? Some of Order 66 didn't make sense, so there again the Empire could have underestimated her and she got away. That would be possible! Still, I'm not sure if Vader would underestimate her; after all, he trained her. Also, I don't think that there were just two clones sent for Yoda, although I could be wrong about that- It's been a little while since I've watched ROTS. I think Order 66 was executed using whatever clones were with the Jedi at the time to shoot them. That worked well, for the most part, because very few Jedi were without troopers.
TheMacUnleashed posted:[quote=AhsokaSkywalker]You mean like Anakin? He got away with being married to Padme and going gung ho on the sand people. Is it too much to ask that Ahsoka be able to do the same?