Author Topic: A second Animated Star Wars series? (George gives hints)
DarthKreVass 
Registered: Dec '08
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Date Posted: 6/14 8:48am Subject: A second Animated Star Wars series? (George gives hints) - Date Edited: 6/17 2:53pm (2 edits total) Edited By: GARTH_MAUL
Did I read this right?

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Might as well make this the official thread for this for now. Thanks, G_M.

 

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LawJedi  450 posts
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Date Posted: 6/14 9:22am Subject: A seconded Animated Star Wars series?
I wouldn't get very excited. If its the show that was hinted at on a previous Forcecast, it is a more kiddie animated series based on the Hasbro Galactic Heroes toyline. Not my cup of tea at all. I suppose it would be the equivalent of Batman: Brave and the Bold.

 

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Arden_Kingslayer 
Registered: Jun '09
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Date Posted: 6/14 9:31am Subject: A seconded Animated Star Wars series?
LawJedi posted:
I wouldn't get very excited. If its the show that was hinted at on a previous Forcecast, it is a more kiddie animated series based on the Hasbro Galactic Heroes toyline. Not my cup of tea at all. I suppose it would be the equivalent of Batman: Brave and the Bold.



You mean to tell me they are going even more kiddie? The current Clone Wars series is already a little to kiddie for me, but I still watch it. I realize the movies/shows are suppose to be for kids, but what's the harm in making one of the spin-offs more for later teens and adults?

 

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LawJedi  450 posts
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Date Posted: 6/14 9:37am Subject: A seconded Animated Star Wars series? - Date Edited: 6/14 9:38am (1 edits total) Edited By: LawJedi
Clone Wars is all ages, just as Star Wars should be.

Here's my analogy, Clone Wars is Batman the Animated Series (more family friendly than the movies, but still strong adult themes and storytelling). This new show would be, again, Batman: The Brave and the Bold (or even Superfriends). cry

I don't think its a great idea, but I also don't watch B:BATB, which many DC comics fans adore.

I think a return to Ewoks and Droids fare would be a terrible idea. But it will find an audience. Again, this is all based on what Jason said on the Forcecast last week.

 

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G-FETT  22607 posts
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Date Posted: 6/14 9:45am Subject: A seconded Animated Star Wars series? - Date Edited: 6/14 9:53am (1 edits total) Edited By: G-FETT
I assume he's talking about a second animated series of the Clone Wars, i.e Clone Wars season 2 starting in September.

The 80 scripts I assume relates to the live action series. They seem to have been developing scripts for the LAS since forever! shame_on_you

 

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XCell  277 posts
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Date Posted: 6/14 3:31pm Subject: A seconded Animated Star Wars series?
Think I missed it? I didn't catch him actually saying anything about another animated series.. but if they do make it, I hope they have the sense to make it 2-D, and possibly include Genndy Tartakovsky again (if he's not too busy with The Dark Crystal sequel). And making cartoons based off of toys? Talk about cheap..

 

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ThrawnRocks  14867 posts
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Date Posted: 6/14 6:55pm Subject: A seconded Animated Star Wars series?
G-FETT posted:
I assume he's talking about a second animated series of the Clone Wars, i.e Clone Wars season 2 starting in September.

Unlikely. Americans don't use the word series that way.

 

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DarthIktomi  1380 posts
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Date Posted: 6/14 9:10pm Subject: A seconded Animated Star Wars series?
LawJedi posted:
I think a return to Ewoks and Droids fare would be a terrible idea. But it will find an audience. Again, this is all based on what Jason said on the Forcecast last week.

Urrgh, not Ewoks. A part of the Star Wars franchise that featured neither.

 

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LawJedi  450 posts
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Date Posted: 6/14 10:13pm Subject: A seconded Animated Star Wars series?
XCell posted:
but if they do make it, I hope they have the sense to make it 2-D, and possibly include Genndy Tartakovsky again (if he's not too busy with The Dark Crystal sequel).


Um, may I ask... why? Clone Wars is about the most beautiful thing I've ever seen on TV, and perfectly in tune with the movies. Why go back to the low budget "Samurai Jack with lightsabers" style?

 

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koonfan  491 posts
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Date Posted: 6/15 1:45am Subject: A seconded Animated Star Wars series?
XCell posted:
Think I missed it? I didn't catch him actually saying anything about another animated series.. but if they do make it, I hope they have the sense to make it 2-D, and possibly include Genndy Tartakovsky again (if he's not too busy with The Dark Crystal sequel). And making cartoons based off of toys? Talk about cheap..

Not sure where I stand on this issue, but I just want to point out that the Transformers dynasty at the least, from G1 to its present incarnations, was always tightly interwoven into toys and their sales. XD

The Ewoks series (haven't seen droids) was a fun little show, with some aspects that require a certain amount of experience to appreciate, but I personally prefer the current Clone Wars over that. Similar response to the old Genndy series, but not from an 'age' angle, but more of a 'look hard enough you'll find it' angle. tongue

Of course, if they can continue delivering good, interesting stories and solid fun, I'm game. Could even be in similar graphics as Force Unleashed, or the Old Republic cinematic, but I wonder whether that's way too expensive.

 

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XCell  277 posts
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Date Posted: 6/15 6:09am Subject: A seconded Animated Star Wars series? - Date Edited: 6/15 6:13am (2 edits total) Edited By: XCell
LawJedi posted:
XCell posted:
but if they do make it, I hope they have the sense to make it 2-D, and possibly include Genndy Tartakovsky again (if he's not too busy with The Dark Crystal sequel).


Um, may I ask... why? Clone Wars is about the most beautiful thing I've ever seen on TV, and perfectly in tune with the movies. Why go back to the low budget "Samurai Jack with lightsabers" style?

This show is the most beautiful thing you've ever seen on TV? I'll just say I think you've really limited your viewing experience. And perfectly in tune with the movies? It creates an unecessary gap with the appearance of a (pretty annoying) character (Miss Snips). The show has had some decent stuff, but it's a step down in quality of writing, animation, originality..
The Tartakovsky cartoons felt more like they were made by talented writers and artists, and smart fans who took it seriously and enjoyed making it, and not just for the 'tasteless kids' demographic. The animation (more creative than the standard video-game 3-D look of this show) seemed to be made by actual artists, people who could.. you know. Draw. This new show feels like the creators don't care as much about quality or the characters, and they're more interested in pleasing the kiddies who will watch it (along with Power Rangers and iCarly) cause it's got lazer guns and robots and lightsaber battles..
Plus, I'm sick of 3-D animation. I'm ready for 2D to make a comeback and bury 3-D with a vengeance.
So, yeah, if there's another animated series.. Tartakovsky and 2D, please.

 

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koonfan  491 posts
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Date Posted: 6/15 8:41am Subject: A seconded Animated Star Wars series?
XCell posted:
This show is the most beautiful thing you've ever seen on TV? I'll just say I think you've really limited your viewing experience. And perfectly in tune with the movies? It creates an unecessary gap with the appearance of a (pretty annoying) character (Miss Snips). The show has had some decent stuff, but it's a step down in quality of writing, animation, originality..
The Tartakovsky cartoons felt more like they were made by talented writers and artists, and smart fans who took it seriously and enjoyed making it, and not just for the 'tasteless kids' demographic. The animation (more creative than the standard video-game 3-D look of this show) seemed to be made by actual artists, people who could.. you know. Draw. This new show feels like the creators don't care as much about quality or the characters, and they're more interested in pleasing the kiddies who will watch it (along with Power Rangers and iCarly) cause it's got lazer guns and robots and lightsaber battles..
Plus, I'm sick of 3-D animation. I'm ready for 2D to make a comeback and bury 3-D with a vengeance.
So, yeah, if there's another animated series.. Tartakovsky and 2D, please.

Your opinion is certainly your own right, and remains highly valid in an era where 3D shows are increasingly mass-produced with little distinguishing differences (take, for instance, the umpteen number of 3D cartoons about animals that focus more on making 3D animals than diversifying their humour styles), but I'd advise against stating it as if it was a fact, as well as dismissing/downplaying the efforts of the show's creators just like that. It certainly doesn't help that it sounds like you're writing off all the time and effort that goes into it. Heck, I'm sure even Jimmy Neutron or the Penguins of Madagascar had a lot of painstaking care poured into them.

It's interesting to note, though, that it's the 2D shows (modern ones, that is) that focus more on distinct styles of writing and action (Samurai Jack, Justice League, Transformers Animated, El Tigre, Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy, heck, even Codename: Kids Next Door, Spongebob Squarepants and Fairly Oddparents), so I can understand where you're coming from. Under most circumstances, given a list of shows, I'd actually pick the hand-drawn (or heck, computer drawn) 2D ones over the 3D ones. Clone Wars surprises me, though, in that I actually hold it in a similar regard as I do 2D shows.

That said, TCW is actually the best 3D series I've seen in a long time (compared to its gimmicky, blocky and cash-in predecessors). Its accomplishments in its action, storytelling, and characters actually mimic, approach, and in some cases, even match those of conventional modern drawn-cartoons. You could argue it's any of the flaws mentioned, but it can be counter-argued that it's 'Star Wars adventure, not gimmicky', or 'more like Genndy, not blocky', or even 'Star Wars has been doing the cash-in thing for a LOOOOOONG time'.
It falls short (so far) because firstly, it suffers from time cuts and a chaotic production line, and secondly, it has yet to perfect its storytelling mechanics. The first flaw, I'm sure, will be dealt with as we go along. The second is up for grabs, because we don't know where they plan to take things like MORAL AMBIGUITY, HEROIC LOSSES, or even the handling of multi-episode story arcs.

In any case, whatever style they use, so long as it's presentable, my main concern will remain the writing. Well-made action is a close second, because hey, who ever heard of Star Wars without action? tongue

Hmm. Maybe they'll go the anime route and simply adapt and animate canon events from videogames. Not that I'd mind seeing Revan or Kyle Katarn in action. laugh

 

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SuperSaiyaMan12  2595 posts
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Date Posted: 6/15 2:17pm Subject: A seconded Animated Star Wars series?
LawJedi posted:
I don't think its a great idea, but I also don't watch B:BATB, which many DC comics fans adore.

Actually, DC Comic fans are hating B:BATB. It has a REALLY LOW score on TV.com (5.0 out of 10 last I checked).

 

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DarthIktomi  1380 posts
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Date Posted: 6/15 6:18pm Subject: A seconded Animated Star Wars series?
I'm sure you mean a SECOND animated series. A SECONDED animated series is something like this:

Lucas: There should be another animated series.
Random other LFL exec: That's right.

 

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DarthKreVass 
Registered: Dec '08
40701_Anakin
Date Posted: 6/15 6:26pm Subject: A seconded Animated Star Wars series?
DarthIktomi posted:
I'm sure you mean a SECOND animated series. A SECONDED animated series is something like this:

Lucas: There should be another animated series.
Random other LFL exec: That's right.


My Bad :-)

 

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LawJedi  450 posts
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Date Posted: 6/15 6:58pm Subject: A seconded Animated Star Wars series? - Date Edited: 6/15 7:20pm (1 edits total) Edited By: LawJedi
SuperSaiyaMan12 posted:
LawJedi posted:
I don't think its a great idea, but I also don't watch B:BATB, which many DC comics fans adore.

Actually, DC Comic fans are hating B:BATB. It has a REALLY LOW score on TV.com (5.0 out of 10 last I checked).


Meh, I happen to agree with you, but I know a lot of Silver Age fanboys that are obsessed with it. I don't get it. But if the ratings are bad, then that makes it suck even more.

This is exactly why shows like the current Clone Wars are needed; to appeal to *all* age groups.

 

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