Author Topic: A second Animated Star Wars series? (George gives hints)
henchman24  334 posts
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Date Posted: 6/19 1:12am Subject: A second Animated Star Wars series? (George gives hints)
Gry Sarth posted:
So the case is not really about you being sick of 3D, but that you wished they did more hand-drawn 2D productions. That's a fair sentiment. I think it's a pity that Disney closed down its feature film 2D department. I don't really see why the two mediums can't flourish together, be it independently or being meshed into the same production (I loved Titan A.E.). I feel the "3D craze" is dwindling, so 2D could make a comeback. The problem is that currently a 2D production is more costly and time-consuming than 3D, so for the producers it's really a no-brainer...


I liken this arguement to a quantity v. quality discussion that I had here, about low rent studios having more access to average CG. Its why you get a new movie every week on the Sci-Fi channel, and it always sucks. Being able to make a movie (or in this case a 3-D show or film) doesn't mean it should be made. This however isn't limited to the 3-D format....

I went to see "UP", and saw a preview for some hand drawn movie about a frog prince or some such before hand. I was happy to see a feature length hand drawn picture initially, partly because I am also tired of the run of BAD 3-D stuff myself. Then it set in, this movie is just a poor excuse to break ground in the race department, and is completely devoid of character. I wasn't even through the next trailer when it set in. After seeing a masterpiece like Up, its hard to argue that 3-D is at all lacking as a medium, or that 2-D is quality by default, especially after said preview.

Its really about making a movie/show because you have something to convey to an audience, not simply because you can. I don't think Star Wars as a franchise has cornered the market here either. However, I found season 1 to be of very high quality, and the animation was simply the icing.

The question I would have about a second animated series isn't 2-D v. 3-D, I want to know if its a story that really deserves to be told. If its just some crappy EU jibe that gives the animators an excuse to flash with no substance, I dont see how it will matter what format it is presented in. While I am a fan of the franchise, not every story (SW or not) needs to be put on the screen.

 

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Date Posted: 6/19 12:22pm Subject: A second Animated Star Wars series? (George gives hints)
Lucas also informed attendees that he is working on literally 40 screenplays for television including the development of a second Star Wars animated series.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but what I understand is that he's working on screenplays for a second Star Wars animated series. Now, Lucas animation is working on season two since before season one had even started airing. It's highly unlikely for them to be still working on screenplays, that being the first phase of creating an episode. They should have even corrected all the smallest details on the screenplays already. And we know for fact (from the force cast I think) that concept artists are now working on season three. So if Lucas is working on screenplays for The Clone Wars it would have to be screenplays for season three, and he says "second" series, not "third". So...

 

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Gry Sarth  1806 posts
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Date Posted: 6/19 12:43pm Subject: A second Animated Star Wars series? (George gives hints)
Your train of thought makes perfect sense. GL can't possibly still be working on the screenplays for TCW season two, as those episodes must already be on the final stages of post-production. What I think that little very misleading line of news actually means is that GL is working on lots of things for TV right now, including screenplays for upcoming CW seasons and the live action show and he is ALSO overseeing production of the Clone Wars second series (which you can either understand as 2nd SEASON or you can realise that after the Tartakovski 2D series, this IS the 2nd CW series).

 

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swcolts157  329 posts
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Date Posted: 6/19 7:42pm Subject: A second Animated Star Wars series? (George gives hints)
What I'm getting from all of this is that George is making a second Star Wars animated series and that it will probably be that rumored Galactic Heroes show.

Now I don't think it would be too bad if done right: they should make little vignettes set all over the Star Wars universe with characters from the entire saga.

It would be a little like an animated Star Wars Tales, they wouldn't have to be canon, but they would fit in just fine.

 

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StarWarrior77  439 posts
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Date Posted: 6/23 3:57pm Subject: A second Animated Star Wars series? (George gives hints)
I can't wait for another animated Star Wars series, and I hope it has the same style as The Clone Wars series.

 

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WookieeWarrior9  477 posts
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Date Posted: 6/29 5:09pm Subject: A second Animated Star Wars series? (George gives hints)
I'm interested. While I love the Clone Wars and those characters and time period, I'd love to see them move into new ground.

 

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Gry Sarth  1806 posts
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Date Posted: 6/30 1:00am Subject: A second Animated Star Wars series? (George gives hints)
I've just listened to the latest Force-Cast, and it contains more interviews with GL, and now hearing the full quote I have to change my opinion:

"Now, with Clone Wars, and a live-action show I'm working on, and another animated show I'm working on..."

Phrased like that there's very little room for misunderstandings. It does seem GL is working on another Star Wars animated show.

I do hope it's not the "Star Wars for Toddlers" rumor we've heard, although that sounds quite likely... If they do that, however, I hope they go all out so I can completely ignore the whole thing. It would be terrible if there were some great concepts and characters sprinkled around an otherwise Teletubbies-level show.

 

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Bill-Thompson  558 posts
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Date Posted: 6/30 7:29am Subject: A second Animated Star Wars series? (George gives hints)
XCell posted:
I hope they have the sense to make it 2-D, and possibly include Genndy Tartakovsky again


Please, no Genndy. I hate his character designs, I can't stand his writing style, his Clone Wars were terrible, absolutely terrible. Keep Genndy and his overrated pap as far away from any more Star Wars as is possible, thank you very much.

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LawJedi posted:
I don't think its a great idea, but I also don't watch B:BATB, which many DC comics fans adore.

Actually, DC Comic fans are hating B:BATB. It has a REALLY LOW score on TV.com (5.0 out of 10 last I checked).


No, they aren't. Go to any actual comic book message board and you will hear nothing but rave reviews of BTBATB, and that's understandable because it is great TV. If Lucas were to make a SW series in the style of BTBATB that would only be a good thing, because then CN would have two great shows and a good one in The Clone Wars.

 

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Drewton  308 posts
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Date Posted: 6/30 10:44am Subject: A second Animated Star Wars series? (George gives hints) - Date Edited: 6/30 10:55am (6 edits total) Edited By: Drewton
swcolts157 posted:
What I'm getting from all of this is that George is making a second Star Wars animated series and that it will probably be that rumored Galactic Heroes show.

Now I don't think it would be too bad if done right: they should make little vignettes set all over the Star Wars universe with characters from the entire saga.

It would be a little like an animated Star Wars Tales, they wouldn't have to be canon, but they would fit in just fine.


Gry Sarth posted:

I do hope it's not the "Star Wars for Toddlers" rumor we've heard, although that sounds quite likely... If they do that, however, I hope they go all out so I can completely ignore the whole thing. It would be terrible if there were some great concepts and characters sprinkled around an otherwise Teletubbies-level show.


If they do that, Star Wars is officially dead to me. Especially with how great Star Trek is right now. It would just be a joke.





Not that Star Wars is *cough* *wheeze* *cough* too much different right now.





This is what Star Wars should be right now. It's unfortunate neither are on the big or even small screens.



 

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XCell  277 posts
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Date Posted: 6/30 4:47pm Subject: A second Animated Star Wars series? (George gives hints)
Bill-Thompson posted:
XCell posted:
I hope they have the sense to make it 2-D, and possibly include Genndy Tartakovsky again


Please, no Genndy. I hate his character designs, I can't stand his writing style, his Clone Wars were terrible, absolutely terrible. Keep Genndy and his overrated pap as far away from any more Star Wars as is possible, thank you very much.


I'd hate to think what your opinion of this new series is.
OK, if no Genndy.. maybe the creators of Avatar.
And where is this 'Star Wars for toddlers' thing coming from? Sounds pretty amusing, like Dora the Explorer meets Star Wars? Just imagine..

Ahsoka: Oh no! I need to find Artooie. Can YOU see Artooie?
(Artoo beeping loudly in the background)
Ahsoka: You see Artooie? Where?
(Artoo beeps louder.)
Ahsoka: I can't find him.. What? He's right behind me?
(Ahsoka turns around and sees him.)
(They celebrate and do a little song and dance)
Ahsoka: Yay! Thank you for helping me find Artooie! You're a great helper!
(Artoo beeps all cute-like)

 

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Jango_Fettish  1020 posts
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Date Posted: 6/30 8:12pm Subject: A second Animated Star Wars series? (George gives hints)

OK, if no Genndy.. maybe the creators of Avatar.


IIRC, Dave Filoni is one of the creators of Avatar.

 

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XCell  277 posts
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Date Posted: 7/1 7:21am Subject: A second Animated Star Wars series? (George gives hints)
Michael Dante DiMartino and Bryan Konietzko are the creators of Avatar. I think Filoni was one of the writers, though DiMartino and Konietzko wrote and directed episodes too.

 

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Bill-Thompson  558 posts
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Date Posted: 7/1 9:28am Subject: A second Animated Star Wars series? (George gives hints)
XCell posted:
[quote=Bill-Thompson]I'd hate to think what your opinion of this new series is.
OK, if no Genndy.. maybe the creators of Avatar.


I find the new series to be good, but not great, still it's leagues better than Genndy's version. I wouldn't mind the people behind Avatar getting involved with SW in any way, Avatar is a quality show from start to finish.

 

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Date Posted: 7/3 10:33am Subject: A second Animated Star Wars series? (George gives hints)
Gry Sarth posted:
This whole "I'm tired of CG" topic seems so absurd to me. How can you be tired of a particular artistic medium? That's like saying "I'm so tired of oil paintings, I wish they went back to watercolours." That's utter nonsense. You're not tired of CG films, you're tired of BAD films. Because the CG medium has expanded so much in the last years, everybody and their dog is making CG films nowadays. That means the crap/good ratio has reached a very uncomfortable level. There are simply too many cheap, unimaginative, badly written, badly animated CG films and cartoons being released nowadays. That has nothing to do with the CG medium itself. Good CG is good entertainment, and I can't get enough of it. Bad CG is no worse than bad anything else (2D, live-action, what have you). The only problem is that because making bad CG has become so cheap, they're producing it by the bucketload.

The Clone Wars is NOT bad CG, it's pretty darn amazing for weekly television standards, both visually and creatively.


Agreed, going back to 2D is like switching back to dial up. Whether you like the Clone Wars or not, one can't deny how much better visually it looks compared to Gennedy.

 

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Gry Sarth  1806 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 11:04am Subject: A second Animated Star Wars series? (George gives hints)
That's not really agreeing with what I said. I don't think 2D is outclassed and made obsolete by 3D. They are different mediums, with their own strengths and weaknesses. The Genndy series didn't suck because it was 2D, but because some of the designs were silly, the storylines were laughable and the action was exaggerated beyond the breaking point of ludicrousness.

 

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