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WookieeAlpha Registered: Jun '09	Date Posted: 6/26 10:40am Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS
	I know people have been commenting about this vaguely in several other threads. I just want to condense it in one thread because I'm curious. What do you think about the possibility of not having Jedi on the upcoming LAS? Do you guys think the essence of Star Wars is in lightsabers and jedi vs sith duels? Do you believe it wouldn't be star wars if there was not a single lightsabre blade anywhere to be seen? IMHO, there's so much to see in the star wars universe than limiting stories to events surrounding the Jedi is a pity. I think having star wars stories involving other than Jedi would be refreshing. -----signature----- banned yearly [for unexplained reasons] since '03
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MvG-88 Registered: Oct '08	Date Posted: 6/26 11:51am Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS
	It's no real biggie. It's only as of late that Jedi have become a must in all things related to Star Wars. As much as I absolutely adore lightsabers, I can't say I'm disappointed, If the writing and acting is good I doubt we'll even miss them. Maybe the absence of Jedi means it's trying to break new ground instead of recycling old cliques.
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Gry Sarth Title: Moderator: LACWAC Registered: Jun '99	Date Posted: 6/26 3:43pm Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS
	I agree. Up until the prequels were released, lightsabers, Jedi and the Force were just one aspect amongst a myriad of aspects that defined Star Wars. I really don't think Star Wars needs Jedi to be Star Wars. Just look at the video games released, pre-prequel era: Dark Forces, Rebel Assault, the whole X-Wing/TIE Fighter series, Rebellion, etc; hardly a glimpse of a lightsaber anywhere in sight in any of these. But if you look at post-prequel era games, it seems Jedi became mandatory, even where they wouldn't really work like Galaxies and Battlefront. So, my point is, the Jedi-heaviness of the prequels has skewed the general perception of what Star Wars IS. Star Wars is smugglers, bounty hunters, blaster fights, exotic locales, weird aliens and monsters, space battles, fighter pilots... and Jedi. So I have no problem whatsoever if the LAS has no Jedi, I sorely miss the underbelly of the Star Wars universe, with mercs, smugglers, bounty hunters and other scum. That said, I think a Jedi-free LAS would benefit by a very sparse, very well-planned use of Jedi appearances. If they take Jedi away from people for a while, then maybe when a fugitive Jedi does show up and sacrifices himself in an epic lightsaber duel, it will actually be awesome and special and epic, like it used to be, and not just the 3rd or 4th lightsaber clash of the month... -----signature----- If it weren't for bad luck I'd have no luck at all.
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ShaneP Title: Lucasfilm Projects Gremlin(Manager ) Registered: Mar '01	Date Posted: 6/26 4:14pm Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS
	Personally, I think it's time we had something Star Wars that was NOT Jedi/Sith/lightsaber related. Just the idea the LAS might not have those increases my interest in watching it. -----signature----- Keep Your Words Sweet. You May Have To Eat Them.
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Humble_Jedi Registered: Oct '04	Date Posted: 6/26 4:45pm Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS
	Gry Sarth posted: I agree. Up until the prequels were released, lightsabers, Jedi and the Force were just one aspect amongst a myriad of aspects that defined Star Wars. I really don't think Star Wars needs Jedi to be Star Wars. Just look at the video games released, pre-prequel era: Dark Forces, Rebel Assault, the whole X-Wing/TIE Fighter series, Rebellion, etc; hardly a glimpse of a lightsaber anywhere in sight in any of these. But if you look at post-prequel era games, it seems Jedi became mandatory, even where they wouldn't really work like Galaxies and Battlefront. So, my point is, the Jedi-heaviness of the prequels has skewed the general perception of what Star Wars IS. Star Wars is smugglers, bounty hunters, blaster fights, exotic locales, weird aliens and monsters, space battles, fighter pilots... and Jedi. So I have no problem whatsoever if the LAS has no Jedi, I sorely miss the underbelly of the Star Wars universe, with mercs, smugglers, bounty hunters and other scum. That said, I think a Jedi-free LAS would benefit by a very sparse, very well-planned use of Jedi appearances. If they take Jedi away from people for a while, then maybe when a fugitive Jedi does show up and sacrifices himself in an epic lightsaber duel, it will actually be awesome and special and epic, like it used to be, and not just the 3rd or 4th lightsaber clash of the month... This, exactly my opinion. -----signature----- Monkey Lizard did it! "Jan, meet me at the top! I've GOT to get that disk!"
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TaradosGon Registered: Feb '03	Date Posted: 6/26 5:59pm Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS - Date Edited: 6/26 6:01pm (1 edits total) Edited By: TaradosGon
	I agree with Gry. In the OT, Jedi only really figured into Luke's "hero's journey." The other half of the trilogy, centered around Leia, Han, Lando, Chewbacca, and the droids and was more about comradeship among a rag tag group and had little to do with the Jedi. I look forward to seeing some Star Wars content that centers once again around the other aspects that make Star Wars cool. Jedi are just a small piece of it. Frankly, in growing up with the OT, it was the walkers, the creatures, the aliens, the space battles, and the Rebellion vs. the Empire that made Star Wars for me. The Jedi vs. Sith and the story of Luke Skywalker were far from my favorite aspects of the films.
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Dark_Lord_THX_1138 Registered: Jun '09	Date Posted: 6/27 4:17am Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS
	I'm quite interested at the possibility of the series being completely Jedi/Sith/Empire light, and focusing on minor characters. Maybe a Jedi could turn up once or twice for an epic finale, but that's about it.
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brainwash Registered: Jan '09	Date Posted: 6/27 11:37am Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS
	Yeah I agree with Gry's sentiments, too. I've always been more interested in the underworld of Star Wars, anyway. I've been listening to the radio series at work yesterday, and it really got my imagination going like the first time I heard it.
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Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon Registered: Dec '00	Date Posted: 6/27 5:05pm Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS
	I'd be fine with no Jedi. But there had better be some decent space dogfights. It's still STAR WARS after all. Beyond that, I think the best thing the series could do would be to pretend it's a standalone project. It should be about itself, and not about filling in the blanks of the movies. -----signature----- Personally if treating homosexuals with respect and dignity is the definition of 'anti-Christian' then I hope that Obama is the friggin' anti-Christ. - FIDo
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Liliedhe Registered: Feb '09	Date Posted: 6/28 1:52am Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS
	It doesn't have to be heavy on Jedi. It's the Dark Times after all. But, absolutely NO Jedi whatsoever would turn me off this series in a flash. Sure, smugglers and Bounty Hunters are also a part of Star Wars and there is nothing wrong with featuring them heavier and more prominently - but Firefly on Corellia is in no way unique or something that HAS to be Star Wars and can't be anything else. Jedi and the Force are what makes Star Wars Star Wars unique among the many space/sci fi flavoured stuff out there. Exploring less travelled corners of the universe is fine - but either they feature characters that are iconic (like Han Solo, Boba Fett or Princess Leia), or they find some way to bring the Jedi and the Force in there as a bit player (like maybe a Jedi on the run as a recurring character where the audience is left guessing for a while if he is or isn't - like they made Angel on Buffy a recurring enigma for a while). Otherwise, I can't see this being Star Wars. Nobody would ever think of making Star Trek without the Star Fleet, either. Just my 5 (Euro)cents.^^ -----signature----- Joint Winner - PT Trivia Challenge 18+New Edition
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Gry Sarth Title: Moderator: LACWAC Registered: Jun '99	Date Posted: 6/28 2:48am Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS
	Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon posted: I'd be fine with no Jedi. But there had better be some decent space dogfights. It's still STAR WARS after all. HEAR HEAR! I still maintain that Star Wars has enough character in its architecture, ship design, aliens, and overall motifs to stand out as a unique property without the need for glowing rods. Again I refer to most pre-prequel video games, which certainly had the Star Wars feel all over them, yet were completely Jedi-free. -----signature----- If it weren't for bad luck I'd have no luck at all.
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Tzizvvt78 Registered: Jun '09	Date Posted: 6/28 4:14am Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS
	The over-saturation of Jedi in the last ten years is starting to grate me, so I'll be pleased to see a potential Jedi-free series. There's the KOTOR, Prequel, Legacy and NJO eras either on-going or upcoming, so people who want more, have enough to choose from already.
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Darth_Morder Registered: May '04	Date Posted: 7/1 7:28pm Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS - Date Edited: 7/1 7:47pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Darth_Morder
	I agree with what Gry Sarth and many other people say. I've noticed that there are many complaints about not having any Jedi in the LAS. However, the vast majority of those who complain are very young and got to know Star Wars through the new trilogy and/or the CW series. There's a weird phenomena going on amongst the star wars fans these days, where younger fans prefer the new trilogy over the old one. That would be natural and it's a matter of opinion really, but then you go and read many of their posts about wanting the old trilogy to be completely remade... I find that preposterous. George Lucas played his cards well, he managed to keep the star wars flame burning for 3 decades and always renewing the fan base. But the newer generations are getting essence of star wars all diluted and that's why many complain about things like say, not having Jedi on the LAS.
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Reemsworld Registered: Mar '06	Date Posted: 7/2 11:38am Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS
	Would not be shocked if they had a character who is hiding the fact that they're a force user or a character that has latent force ability, that will be developed over the course of the show.
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Ki-Aaron-Mundi Registered: May '08	Date Posted: 7/2 1:32pm Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS
	Darth_Morder posted: There's a weird phenomena going on amongst the star wars fans these days, where younger fans prefer the new trilogy over the old one. That would be natural and it's a matter of opinion really, but then you go and read many of their posts about wanting the old trilogy to be completely remade... I find that preposterous. I understand where you're coming from, but let's face it, there are also plenty of 1st generation fans who would love to see the PT completely remade in a way that conforms better with how they originally imagined it. Darth_Morder posted: George Lucas played his cards well, he managed to keep the star wars flame burning for 3 decades and always renewing the fan base. But the newer generations are getting essence of star wars all diluted and that's why many complain about things like say, not having Jedi on the LAS. I think it's tough to make a claim about what "the essence of Star Wars" is. Part of the reason Star Wars is so popular is that it speaks to so many different people on plenty of different levels. It's because there are so many different ways to look at it--and different things people can have as their focal point when they think "Star Wars"--that allows it to be perennially popular. All of that said, I like the idea of a series that isn't Jedi-focused. While I certainly wouldn't mind (and would actually prefer) having Jedi crop up every now-and-then, and I don't think need to be the focus of the show at all. If every major cast member in the series plays a non-Force sensitive character, I'll be plenty satisfied.
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nett40 Registered: Jul '09	Date Posted: 7/2 1:59pm Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS - Date Edited: 7/2 2:28pm (2 edits total) Edited By: nett40
	Ki-Aaron-Mundi posted: ...I think it's tough to make a claim about what "the essence of Star Wars" is. Part of the reason Star Wars is so popular is that it speaks to so many different people on plenty of different levels. It's because there are so many different ways to look at it--and different things people can have as their focal point when they think "Star Wars"--that allows it to be perennially popular. All of that said, I like the idea of a series that isn't Jedi-focused. While I certainly wouldn't mind (and would actually prefer) having Jedi crop up every now-and-then, and I don't think need to be the focus of the show at all. If every major cast member in the series plays a non-Force sensitive character, I'll be plenty satisfied. I agree with Ki-Aaron-Mundi, and I would also like to have few Jedi or Force sensitive characters to appear now and then, maybe a person like Star-killer. But the master villain Darth Vader, have to be in it, from time to time, and he also needs some opposition. But since it's taking place after the Jedi Purge, I doubt we'll see but a few Jedi at best. To me the Original Trilogy, is the best part of Star Wars, after all, I grew up with them. But to my son it's the animated Clone Wars series and Episode 1. And that is what Star Wars is all about, telling us great stories...
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