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nett40  115 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 12:25pm Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS - Date Edited: 7/3 12:26pm (1 edits total) Edited By: nett40
Game3525 posted:
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Gry Sarth posted:

After almost a full season of a completely Jedi-free LAS, the fanboys are pissing their pants at the prospect that one HAS to show up by now. And then, BAM! A Jedi shows up in the cantina, ignites his saber, the fanboys jump in excitement, but just as quickly the Jedi stumbles a bit and is quickly mowed down by a local guard. Done. That's your precious Jedi, folks. They are DONE.


QFT.

The Emperor/Empire wouldn't care if they learned that someone like a bounty hunter was a Jedi. He'd given up the old ways, there'd be no reason to do anything about him.


Yeah, it would be OC for Palpatine to care about the Jedi at this point.


"The son of Skywalker must never become a Jedi", the Emperor to Darth Vader, Empire Strikes Back!!!

"He will join us, or die MASTER!" Darth Vader to the Emperor...

He seems a little bit concerned here, doesn't he???

 

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Game3525  1458 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 12:48pm Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS
nett40 posted:
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[quote=Gry Sarth]
After almost a full season of a completely Jedi-free LAS, the fanboys are pissing their pants at the prospect that one HAS to show up by now. And then, BAM! A Jedi shows up in the cantina, ignites his saber, the fanboys jump in excitement, but just as quickly the Jedi stumbles a bit and is quickly mowed down by a local guard. Done. That's your precious Jedi, folks. They are DONE.


QFT.

The Emperor/Empire wouldn't care if they learned that someone like a bounty hunter was a Jedi. He'd given up the old ways, there'd be no reason to do anything about him.


Yeah, it would be OC for Palpatine to care about the Jedi at this point.


"The son of Skywalker must never become a Jedi", the Emperor to Darth Vader, Empire Strikes Back!!!

"He will join us, or die MASTER!" Darth Vader to the Emperor...

He seems a little bit concerned here, doesn't he???[/quote]

Yeah, but that is an exception, all the other Jedi who survived Order 66 really aren't a threat to Palpatine. And besides he doesn't even know Luke and Leia exist during this era.

 

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Drewton  316 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 1:13pm Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS
He considered Luke to be a threat because he was the son of Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader and had the potential to be more powerful than Vader and himself. And, unlike Obi-Wan and Yoda, he hadn't just exiled himself on an obscure planet.

 

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Gry Sarth  1930 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 2:08pm Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS
Palpy considered Luke to be a threat both for the reasons stated above and because he knew Luke was around and training to become a full-fledged Jedi. Any other surviving Jedi were completely off the radar and Palpy knew nothing about them. It would sound a bit awkward if Palps had told Vader:

"The son of Skywalker must NOT become a Jedi. And also, if you happen to run into any other Force-sensitive wannabes, they must also NOT become Jedi. Oh, and if you stumble across one of those old Jedi we never got to during the Purge, they must NOT, uh... continue to be Jedi. ...meaning, kill them. Are we clear then? No Jedi. No Jedi of any kind. Righty-o? Ok. Palpy out."

 

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nett40  115 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 3:49pm Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS
Gry Sarth posted:
Palpy considered Luke to be a threat both for the reasons stated above and because he knew Luke was around and training to become a full-fledged Jedi. Any other surviving Jedi were completely off the radar and Palpy knew nothing about them. It would sound a bit awkward if Palps had told Vader:

"The son of Skywalker must NOT become a Jedi. And also, if you happen to run into any other Force-sensitive wannabes, they must also NOT become Jedi. Oh, and if you stumble across one of those old Jedi we never got to during the Purge, they must NOT, uh... continue to be Jedi. ...meaning, kill them. Are we clear then? No Jedi. No Jedi of any kind. Righty-o? Ok. Palpy out."


The Emperor didn't have to fear any other Jedi, because "their light had burned out long ago" quote from one of the Imperial officers in STAR WARS (A New Hope) aboard the first Death Star.

Vader had done a damn good job killing of any wannabes, old Jedi or powerful force-sensitive individuals around the Galaxy, at the time of the first Star Wars movie. After all, it is the dark times, so you can't have half a dozen old drunk Jedis running around, complayning about their oh so unfortunate destiny!!!

 

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nett40  115 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 3:56pm Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS
Drewton posted:
He considered Luke to be a threat because he was the son of Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader and had the potential to be more powerful than Vader and himself. And, unlike Obi-Wan and Yoda, he hadn't just exiled himself on an obscure planet.


Both Vader and Palpatine assumed that Obi Wan and Yoda was out of the game at the time of THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK!

Darth Vader didn't know that you could come back from the dead, "If you strike me down, I'll become ore powerful, than you could possible imagine" Obi Wan to Vader aboard the Death Star...

I don't believe I have to tell you these things, are you fans or simply EU freaks?

 

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Gry Sarth  1930 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 4:06pm Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS - Date Edited: 7/3 4:07pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Gry Sarth
Nett40, do you actually have a point to make regarding this thread? Lately it seems like you just reply to whatever anyone posts, trying your hardest to contradict what's being said by adding any info the person left out and calling that a counter-argument.

 

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Drewton  316 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 4:13pm Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS - Date Edited: 7/3 4:14pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Drewton
nett40 posted:
Drewton posted:
He considered Luke to be a threat because he was the son of Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader and had the potential to be more powerful than Vader and himself. And, unlike Obi-Wan and Yoda, he hadn't just exiled himself on an obscure planet.


Both Vader and Palpatine assumed that Obi Wan and Yoda was out of the game at the time of THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK!

Darth Vader didn't know that you could come back from the dead, "If you strike me down, I'll become ore powerful, than you could possible imagine" Obi Wan to Vader aboard the Death Star...

I don't believe I have to tell you these things, are you fans or simply EU freaks?


I'm not just talking about the time of TESB. If Vader really tried to find Obi-Wan, I think he could have. And where did they ever think that Yoda was dead, at least before ROTJ?

In fact, in Dark Lord, Palpatine didn't consider any of the surviving Jedi to be great threats. Again, Luke was something completely different because he was the only Force user alive who had the potential to be more powerful than him.

They certainly considered them to be "out of the game" but certainly not dead most of the time as far as I know.

 

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nett40  115 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 4:16pm Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS - Date Edited: 7/3 4:19pm (1 edits total) Edited By: nett40
Gry Sarth posted:
Nett40, do you actually have a point to make regarding this thread? Lately it seems like you just reply to whatever anyone posts, trying your hardest to contradict what's being said by adding any info the person left out and calling that a counter-argument.


You said that the Empire didn't consider the Jedi a threat, I simply referred to the fact that the Empire believed (like Han Solo) that they no longer existed.

That's why I wrote that the existence of Luke (a mere Padawan) scared the living .... out of them.

Well I'm trying to defend my idea of a Flash Gordon kind of show, I can see on the other thread about LAS. That others agree with me, in making the LAS about the DARK TIMES, and not solely about smugglers, bounty hunters and crime lords (see not bold, italic or underscored).

I wish some of them would visit this site!

"There is too many of them!!! BOOOM..." another X-wing bites the dust...

 

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Drewton  316 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 4:20pm Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS - Date Edited: 7/3 4:21pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Drewton
nett40 posted:
Gry Sarth posted:
Nett40, do you actually have a point to make regarding this thread? Lately it seems like you just reply to whatever anyone posts, trying your hardest to contradict what's being said by adding any info the person left out and calling that a counter-argument.


You said that the Empire didn't consider the Jedi a threat, I simply referred to the fact that the Empire believed (like Han Solo) that they no longer existed.


The Emperor never believed that every single one of them was dead.

nett40 posted:
That others agree with me, in making the LAS about the DARK TIMES, and not solely about smugglers, bounty hunters and crime lords (see not bold, italic or underscored).


You appear to have a completely different version of the Dark Times then what is in canon. It's the DARK times. Not much happens. There's no epic battles. It's about survival and an overall bad life.

 

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Gry Sarth  1930 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 4:25pm Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS
When did I ever say the Empire didn't consider the Jedi a threat? Sure, the Order was not a threat anymore, but any straggling Jedi that surfaced would still be dealt with swiftly. As far as I can tell, pretty much everybody here wants the series to be about the DARK TIMES. But as far as we know, that means an era where Jedi have gone extinct, the galaxy has turned "uncivilized" with the blaster ruling the lives of people and the Empire stomping about. Well, that seems like flourishing times for shady types like smugglers and bounty hunters. Though that doesn't mean we can't have noble resistance fighters and the occasional surviving Jedi who gets stomped as soon as gets his glowrod out.

 

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nett40  115 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 4:33pm Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS
Drewton posted:
You appear to have a completely different version of the Dark Times then what is in canon. It's the DARK times. Not much happens. There's no epic battles. It's about survival and an overall bad life.


And you think that would make a great TV-series? You simply have to watch the news about the Middle East and you get stories about survival and an overall bad life...

Star Wars has to be more than just that, it has to be about the guts to take a stand against that, which every one else has begun to believe in. Although it is against every thing you were brought up believing in. It's good vs. evil, not simply trying to get the best out of what life has to offer. That show has been made it was called "Firefly/Serenity"...

 

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Date Posted: 7/3 4:36pm Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS - Date Edited: 7/3 4:42pm (4 edits total) Edited By: Drewton
nett40 posted:
Drewton posted:
You appear to have a completely different version of the Dark Times then what is in canon. It's the DARK times. Not much happens. There's no epic battles. It's about survival and an overall bad life.


And you think that would make a great TV-series? You simply have to watch the news about the Middle East and you get stories about survival and an overall bad life...

Star Wars has to be more than just that, it has to be about the guts to take a stand against that, which every one else has begun to believe in. Although it is against every thing you were brought up believing in. It's good vs. evil, not simply trying to get the best out of what life has to offer. That show has been made it was called "Firefly/Serenity"...


Well, it's going to be what it's about, so what I think is irrelevant.

That's how life is in the Dark Times. There's going to be a lot of morally gray characterization, as has been said somewhere before.

I personally think it will be great. More like Empire Strikes Back and Republic Commando in tone.

And didn't you say you wanted it to be like Serenity?

 

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nett40  115 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 4:51pm Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS
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Well, it's going to be what it's about, so what I think is irrelevant.

That's how life is in the Dark Times. There's going to be a lot of morally gray characterization, as has been said somewhere before.

I personally think it will be great. More like Empire Strikes Back and Republic Commando in tone.

And didn't you say you wanted it to be like Serenity?


NO, I said it is going to be a TV-series like Star Trek or Serenity. I could add BSG, Farscape and more. Great shows in their own right, but STAR WARS is different. It's not grey and hard to see whose bad and whose good. Its black and white, thats the bad guys blast them...

 

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Drewton  316 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 4:57pm Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS - Date Edited: 7/3 4:57pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Drewton
nett40 posted:
Drewton posted:
Well, it's going to be what it's about, so what I think is irrelevant.

That's how life is in the Dark Times. There's going to be a lot of morally gray characterization, as has been said somewhere before.

I personally think it will be great. More like Empire Strikes Back and Republic Commando in tone.

And didn't you say you wanted it to be like Serenity?


NO, I said it is going to be a TV-series like Star Trek or Serenity. I could add BSG, Farscape and more. Great shows in their own right, but STAR WARS is different. It's not grey and hard to see whose bad and whose good. Its black and white, thats the bad guys blast them...


From Rick McCallum:

"We are just starting to interview writers and trying to really figure out which direction to go to. He envisions somewhere like 100 hours between Episode III and Episode IV with a lot of characters that we haven't met that have been developed in some of the novels and other things. We are really excited about that. Finally, we could have the opportunity to answer everybody's questions once and for all by the time we finish the series. It is going to be much darker, grittier. It's much more character-based. Steve Sansweet later explained that the series will reveal the "greasy, seamy underbelly of Star Wars"."

And from Wookieepedia:
"The previously mentioned October 15, 2007 AICN report mentioned several alleged details on the series' characters; according to the report, the series will have a more emotionally nuanced, morally gray take on characterization"

 

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