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nett40  115 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 5:09pm Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS - Date Edited: 7/3 5:13pm (2 edits total) Edited By: nett40
Drewton posted:
nett40 posted:
Drewton posted:
Well, it's going to be what it's about, so what I think is irrelevant.

That's how life is in the Dark Times. There's going to be a lot of morally gray characterization, as has been said somewhere before.

I personally think it will be great. More like Empire Strikes Back and Republic Commando in tone.

And didn't you say you wanted it to be like Serenity?


NO, I said it is going to be a TV-series like Star Trek or Serenity. I could add BSG, Farscape and more. Great shows in their own right, but STAR WARS is different. It's not grey and hard to see whose bad and whose good. Its black and white, thats the bad guys blast them...


From Rick McCallum:

"We are just starting to interview writers and trying to really figure out which direction to go to. He envisions somewhere like 100 hours between Episode III and Episode IV with a lot of characters that we haven't met that have been developed in some of the novels and other things. We are really excited about that. Finally, we could have the opportunity to answer everybody's questions once and for all by the time we finish the series. It is going to be much darker, grittier. It's much more character-based. Steve Sansweet later explained that the series will reveal the "greasy, seamy underbelly of Star Wars"."

And from Wookieepedia:
"The previously mentioned October 15, 2007 AICN report mentioned several alleged details on the series' characters; according to the report, the series will have a more emotionally nuanced, morally gray take on characterization"


Oh, shoot me dead, a quote from Wookiepedia. So they are planning a sci-fi version of Cops In Space. How sad, seen that, done that, it's certainly going to crash and burn...

Stormtrooper: "Hey, I've got a ten-four incoming, it's probaly just another smuggler"

Captain Ozzel: "Investigate and make a report, trooper"

Stormtrooper: "OK, I hope there are some hot Twi'leks onboard!"

 

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Gry Sarth  1920 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 6:16pm Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS - Date Edited: 7/3 6:16pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Gry Sarth
I can't believe we already have our first LAS hater when the show hasn't even been officially announced yet!

Star Wars fans are really outdoing themselves...

 

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nett40  115 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 6:26pm Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS - Date Edited: 7/3 6:27pm (1 edits total) Edited By: nett40
Gry Sarth posted:
I can't believe we already have our first LAS hater when the show hasn't even been officially announced yet!

Star Wars fans are really outdoing themselves...


Oh, I'm not a LAS hater, but if the show is going to be about cops and robbers in space, Ill stick with TCW...

Hey wait, whats that: "It hasn't been officially announced yet!" So there is a tinsy bitsy possibility that I might be right?

 

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Gry Sarth  1920 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 6:34pm Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS - Date Edited: 7/3 6:35pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Gry Sarth
Of course there is a tiny chance you might be right, I can only hope you aren't. The only thing is, from whatever tidbits of official info we've had, it doesn't seem to have much to do with what you would like to see. And what's all this "cops and robbers" talk? You're the first one I hear talking about this. What we've heard points to a grittier, darker, underbelly of society storyline. That could include just about anything, from bounty hunters to resistance fighter, dark jedi to smugglers, it's anybodys guess.

And yes, so far you do seem to be a LAS hater. From what official info we do have, you've concluded that the show will crash and burn and you'd rather watch anything else. I call that a hater.

 

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Drewton  316 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 7:06pm Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS - Date Edited: 7/3 7:08pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Drewton
I thought the whole idea of this series wouldn't work for a long time but I've grown to like it very much. I'm looking forward to seeing a darker, gritter version of Star Wars and the character development of characters we've never seen before. Not like the Clone Wars rubbish. We've sene too much about Jedi lately, IMO. It's just a first-person shooter but I actually think that Republic Commando is one of the best works in Star Wars. It was dark, gritty, and didn't feel like a fairy tale at all. And there were no Jedi. It felt incredibly realistic. And it showed how the main characters weren't invincible.

 

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MercenaryAce  2804 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 7:24pm Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS
Jedi and the Force are what makes Star Wars Star Wars unique among the many space/sci fi flavoured stuff out there.
But they aren't...not really.

All the force powers from the movie are your standard Psychic Powers package. Ideas of some kind of mystical bond between all things is very common. Even laser swords are far from rare. A lightsaber is no more distinctly star wars than an X-Wing.

So makes Star Wars what it is?
Everything and nothing.

To be blunt, a lot of sci-fi nowadays has its roots in Star Wars the same way fantasy does in Lord of the Rings. Granted not to the same extent where there are Twi'leks in every sci-fi story out there, and Star Wars certainly has it own roots, but there is no one thing that could ever be uniquely Star Wars.

So, Star Wars is greater than the sum of its parts. It is classical heroism and adventure. It is a galaxy use, explored, and ancient, with a deep and rich history. It is a mix of East and West, fantasy and sci-fi, and heroes both larger than life, or very humble.

 

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Gry Sarth  1920 posts
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Date Posted: 7/4 3:07am Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS
Well said, Ace. Boiling down Star Wars to a single element would be a very narrow-minded and misguided thing to do. The Star Wars spectrum is very wide, which means you could have a "Padawan Adventures" series that felt like Star Wars and a "Scum and Villainy of Nar Shadaa" series that still feels just as much like Star Wars.

 

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Daginoh 
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Date Posted: 7/6 6:21am Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS
I have a feeling that there will be at least one jedi on LAS, his name is Quinlan Vos. He's the only jedi worth following, and GL specifically asked the comic creators to make sure he survived order 66.

 

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Gry Sarth  1920 posts
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Date Posted: 7/6 8:34am Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS
Indeed. Quinlan does seem like a perfect fit for the series, with his past of underworld dealings, etc. However, GL has been known to have fleeting affections for characters. Aurra Sing was supposed to have been the big thing in Ep2, yet we didn't see her again until the last CW episode. It's certain that at some point GL considered doing something with Vos, which is why he wanted him spared in the comics and even mentioned him in Ep3, however that doesn't mean he will actually put the guy to use. For all we know his role might have been replaced by a giant green rabbit by now...

 

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Arawn_Fenn  10379 posts
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Date Posted: 7/6 7:44pm Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS
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GARTH_MAUL  8363 posts
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Date Posted: 7/6 8:55pm Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS
As we've discussed before, the period between ROTS and ROTJ-plus was a dark time for the Jedi Order. Perhaps the darkest of times.

It would be contrary to every piece of extant SW literature to have the Jedi have a huge role in the LAS; most of them have simply been wiped out in The Purge.

However, I would be extremely surprised if we didn't get the occasional Jedi character (or Force sensitive, I suppose), whether that be Quinlan (which would rule) or someone else.

Keep in mind, someone as worldly (galaxyly?) as Han Solo in ANH believes the Force to be a big urban legend.

 

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Grytpype  279 posts
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Date Posted: 7/13 6:14am Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS

I don't think it will be completely Jedi-free.

I think (depending on how long after ROTS that it begins) that the Jedi should get mentioned a lot in the early years, but then less frequently as the series progresses until they are no longer spoken of and "May the Force be with you" is just a phrase used by old timers.

I'd like to see some characters who believe that the Jedi were really trying to take over (believing the hype) or people who hated them delighting in their absence.

but I do think that in the early years we will get to see at least one Jedi (and some Force action) in a big "season event" and my feelings tell me that (unless she dies in TCW - which is unlikely) that that Jedi will be Ashoka.

 

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DarthKreVass 
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Date Posted: 7/13 8:41am Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS - Date Edited: 7/13 8:44am (1 edits total) Edited By: DarthKreVass
I also hope the new series will have that "Used" look that ANH had, where everything looked dirty and beat up. Remember, that might be due to the Empire robbing all the Galaxies resources for their military build up.

 

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Grytpype  279 posts
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Date Posted: 7/14 8:15am Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS - Date Edited: 7/14 8:17am (1 edits total) Edited By: Grytpype
Daginoh posted:
I have a feeling that there will be at least one jedi on LAS, his name is Quinlan Vos. He's the only jedi worth following, and GL specifically asked the comic creators to make sure he survived order 66.


I read on Wookiepedia that, although we don't see Vos, we see the tank he is in getting blown up by clones. EDIT - sorry it says a tank opens fire on him and we see his "supposed" demise

 

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Chewgumma  2562 posts
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Date Posted: 7/17 3:09pm Subject: Thoughts on no Jedi on the LAS
Grytpype posted:
Daginoh posted:
I have a feeling that there will be at least one jedi on LAS, his name is Quinlan Vos. He's the only jedi worth following, and GL specifically asked the comic creators to make sure he survived order 66.


I read on Wookiepedia that, although we don't see Vos, we see the tank he is in getting blown up by clones. EDIT - sorry it says a tank opens fire on him and we see his "supposed" demise


I'm sure I have read this article before and it was actually an unfilmed concept that made it to the storyboarding stage but then got cut. Quinlan Vos is still alive and I believe that George Lucas is adamant that the character's story between episodes 3 and 4 remains untouched. I'm sure the series is certainly pushing to use Vos, even if he's just a target for bounty hunters over a story arc. What with the promised crack team of writers I'm also sure the series would do him justice.

 

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