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Game3525  1458 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 1:28pm Subject: George Lucas' new live -action TV-series?
nett40 posted:
[quote=Game3525]No offense, but this is a terrible idea. Why would Lucas just four years removed from ROTS, go back and basically remake them. I for one hope GL stays with the "Dark times" era, he is already "remaking" the Clone Wars, I don't see why he would redo the PT.


I DIDN'T SAY REMAKE THE PT, I said turn the 3 movies into 12 Episodes, He should use the existing photage and some of that, which didn't make into the final release. He should of course add new scenes and 30 min. episodes with other Jedi adventures and some of the heroes of the LAS could be introduced here.

I also hope that GL stays with the "Dark Times" era, it's hard not to, when it's supposed to take place between episodes III and IV. What I'm saying is that it would help the timeline of TCW and the PT, if he began the LAS with a beefed up version of the PT.

In TCW he's not remaking the Clone Wars, he is MAKING the Clone Wars, only the beginning and the end was portrayed in the movies. My nightmare of LAS would be a bounty hunter/smuggler show, it's after all still called STAR WARS and not STAR COPS or STAR CRIME!!![/quote]

There is more to Star Wars then Lightsabers, Jedi etc. And besides the LAS really needs to get away from that, it is different era now.

 

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nett40  115 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 3:38pm Subject: George Lucas' new live -action TV-series?
Game3525 posted:
... There is more to Star Wars then Lightsabers, Jedi etc. And besides the LAS really needs to get away from that, it is different era now.


Yes it's a Flash Gordon kind of era, with an evil Emperor who's taken control and a few good men and women trying to overthrow him. I got that, BUT HOW WOULD YOU PRESENT THAT ADVENTURE TO THE PUBLIC???

 

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Gry Sarth  1930 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 3:48pm Subject: George Lucas' new live -action TV-series? - Date Edited: 7/3 3:53pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Gry Sarth
Bit of advice: Writing something in bold, italics AND CAPITAL LETTERS doesn't automatically make it a persuasive argument.

And as for your flamboyant question, here's the answer:

- Certainly not the way you are proposing. Don't know if you've noticed but your concept hasn't received an ounce of sympathy from anyone around here. I'd say that's a good indicator that it is, in fact, a very poor idea.

 

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nett40  115 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 4:04pm Subject: George Lucas' new live -action TV-series?
Point taken, but you still haven't convinced me that it's a bad idea. Btw. did GL listen to the most hardcore fans when he decided to make the PT or when he decided to re-edit the Original Trilogy?

I've not experienced the same kind of hostility on any of the other Star Wars fan sites!

 

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Drewton  316 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 5:05pm Subject: George Lucas' new live -action TV-series?
nett40 posted:
Btw. did GL listen to the most hardcore fans when he decided to make the PT or when he decided to re-edit the Original Trilogy?


So, what's your point? GL's already decided what the series will be about and it's completely different from your idea.

 

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nett40  115 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 5:15pm Subject: George Lucas' new live -action TV-series?
Drewton posted:
nett40 posted:
Btw. did GL listen to the most hardcore fans when he decided to make the PT or when he decided to re-edit the Original Trilogy?


So, what's your point? GL's already decided what the series will be about and it's completely different from your idea.


If you say so!

 

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novajoe23  95 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 6:46pm Subject: George Lucas' new live -action TV-series?
nett40 posted:
Drewton posted:
nett40 posted:
Btw. did GL listen to the most hardcore fans when he decided to make the PT or when he decided to re-edit the Original Trilogy?


So, what's your point? GL's already decided what the series will be about and it's completely different from your idea.


If you say so!

He's not saying so; George is. And, pray tell, what do you still need to know that would convince you that it's a bad idea? No one would watch it, because they already have, save for the few scenes that you've already told us that are floating about in your head. Also, no TV network would carry the show, because it's a formula for utter failure. Finally, most of the ideas for scenes that you've suggested are already made: the "start" of the Rebellion was hashed out in a deleted scene from ROTS as well as in The Force Unleashed, Ventress and Ahsoka's fates are yet to be determined in The Clone Wars but probably will be by the time the LAS reaches the small screen, and the Jedi that were killed in Order 66 already have a significant amount of backstory (Secura, Koon, Ki-Adi-Mundi, etc.) and anything beyond Order 66 for them would be pointless since we of course see them DIE in Ep. III.

Also, if you're so confident, stubborn, and stand-offish about your idea, you should try posting it in the official VIPs thread at the Official Site forums. That way, you can see what some folks who actually work at Lucasfilm think about your proposal.

 

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brainwash  85 posts
Registered: Jan '09
Date Posted: 7/3 8:30pm Subject: George Lucas' new live -action TV-series?
I thought Lucas said the show was going to be about a bunch of things, not necessarily about any one person or thing, though it's going to have a lot of underworld and Boba Fett, for example. Isn't everything else vague at this point?

 

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novajoe23  95 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 9:51pm Subject: George Lucas' new live -action TV-series?
brainwash posted:
I thought Lucas said the show was going to be about a bunch of things, not necessarily about any one person or thing, though it's going to have a lot of underworld and Boba Fett, for example. Isn't everything else vague at this point?

Yes, but it has been virtually completely confirmed that it will take place between ROTS and ANH, in an effort to "bridge the gap," just like Force Unleashed did. That's about the only thing that's 100% at this point. Even Boba Fett starring in it isn't guaranteed yet.

But we do know that Lucas won't be re-releasing the Prequel Trilogy in bite-sized 44 minute episodes on network television.

 

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Darth_Neznarf  113 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 11:15pm Subject: George Lucas' new live -action TV-series?
As goofy as this makes me sound I kinda get where nett40 is going with some of his ideas, but remaking, reusing or rehashing anything that we've seen in the movies is kinda overkill. It seems that he basicly wants everything that was ever referenced in the films put in the live action show. I too would like to see how some of stuff referenced in the movies came to be as well like how Han won the Falcon from Lando, the whole Sifo Dias thing, Luke racing T-16 Skyhoppers ect. but the LAS is definatly NOT the place for it.

In nett40's "using the prequil movie footage" in the TV show episodes idea would be a disaster because trying to get the actors to reprise their roles wouldn't work because of their aging and disinterest at this point. So then they'd have to get new actors playing the parts of those characters to film new footage & that would be insane as the 1st episode would have Ewen & Liam in it then the next would have look alikes doing bad impressions of them. Casual fans would be sooo outta there at that point. (and we fans would all be scratching our heads lol)

I have posted this idea before in other threads but for nett40's benifit I'll say it again. A new animated anthology type show would be the perfect place for these and many more stories to take place. A great title for the show would be "STAR WARS: TALES FROM THE GALAXY FAR, FAR AWAY" Every week a story from a different time in the SW timeline could be told. This week the Sifo Dias thing, next week Luke & Biggs racing Skyhoppers, following week Lando infiltrating Jabba's palace preparing for the rescue of Han... ect.,ect.

I wouldn't want them to make the movies or anything covered in them over because what is in the movies IS SET IN STONE wether or not we like how it came out or not. But stories that crossed paths with the events in the movies in an animated form would totally be cool. Like for instance here is an idea off the top of my head:

An animated story about random Rebel soldiers (or a lesser focased on heros like Wedge) in Hoth base fending off the Impirial Stormtroopers that have entered the base to bye the Rebels & Han, Leia & crew enough time to escape from the base. The episode wouldn't focas on Han & Leia at all, but from afar towards the end in a far away shot we could see them boarding the Falcon and escaping. So it would take what we know happened in the movie in a few moments, and add to the story but from a different perspective.

I personally would love some tales like that. It would be great to watch new stories that while your watching them you all of a sudden figure out exactly where and when they take place. An animated show would be much easier to do these sorts of things with. The LAS needs to be about something different then the Jedi or Skywalker family but thats not to say that they shouldn't have an episode or two about a straggler Jedi trying to get out of harms way. I do agree that some known charicters need to make appearances from time to time, especially Stormtroopers and possibly rarely an Obiwan or Vader.

 

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Date Posted: 7/4 1:53am Subject: George Lucas' new live -action TV-series?
nett40 posted:
Dark_Lord_THX_1138 posted:
I really don't want to see re-makes and extended television versions of the Prequels as you suggested. I've had enough of that time period and would much rather see George put his effort into filling the gaps between ROTS and ANH as planned, so your idea is pretty irrelevant as continuity wise it wouldn't work at all and the public wouldn't be too interested.


I've realized a long time ago that you dislike my ideas, but that doesn't mean that your right. If you want to start a Television show based on the Star Wars universe then you need to have a beginning or something familiar gp people. The show has to be directed towards more people than simply the most hardcore fans, such as your self. Otherwise, I surely think that Lucas would drop this whole idea of a LAS and continue his work with CGI.

I know the show has to be about the dark times. But you also need the HOW, WHERE and WHEN. Otherwise it all becomes nonsense...


I do dislike your ideas, but you're entitled to your opinion. It is just my opinion that it's a bad idea and the public won't buy it. But you're entitled to whatever opinion you want.

 

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Darth_Morder  116 posts
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Date Posted: 7/4 8:48am Subject: George Lucas' new live -action TV-series? - Date Edited: 7/4 8:48am (1 edits total) Edited By: Darth_Morder
Darth_Neznarf posted:
"STAR WARS: TALES FROM THE GALAXY FAR, FAR AWAY" Every week a story from a different time in the SW timeline could be told. This week the Sifo Dias thing, next week Luke & Biggs racing Skyhoppers, following week Lando infiltrating Jabba's palace preparing for the rescue of Han... ect.,ect.


tbh, I always wanted that too. But that is still far from Nett's concept for a show. However, I must say that if they're going to make a series based on the things that are referred to in the movies I'd rather have at least an animated movie or maybe a series on Shadows of the Empire.

Yeah, completely offtopic.

 

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TaradosGon  1043 posts
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Date Posted: 7/4 12:44pm Subject: George Lucas' new live -action TV-series?
Well, from what little we know about the LAS, you might get your wish of it being "like Star Trek" (to a point). The films were about wars, and about the heroes and major players on both sides. The LAS is said to be more about the people living under the Empire, and not focusing on a war. I would expect a more character driven story with more dialogue, than some action heavy series based on battles and chase scenes. In that regard it will probably be more like Star Trek, which I'm all for. However, I'm sure it will keep a Star Wars feel.

 

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nett40  115 posts
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Date Posted: 7/5 6:43am Subject: George Lucas' new live -action TV-series? - Date Edited: 7/5 7:16am (7 edits total) Edited By: nett40
It is easy, to make everything seem idiotic, if its taken out of its context. So here are my answers, to Darth_Morder tired

Darth_Morder posted:
No offense, but how old are you? I think this thread proves what I was talking about in my post on the "No Jedi on the LAS" thread.

I wonder if everything you talked about is what you wish the LAS to be about or if you are speculating what it'll be about. Although we know very little about the stories that will be part of the LAS, we know what we won't get from it and basically, everything you say it'd be a good idea is everything that won't happen.


I was 7 when the original Star Wars movie came out! Btw. Isn't the show to be about the period between "Revenge Of The Sith" and "A New Hope"? If so then, my wish might come true!

Darth_Morder posted:
nett40 posted:
I think the new Star Wars live-action TV series 1st Season should be an edited re-released version of all the 3 movies of the Prequel-Trilogy. The 3 movies should be turned into approx. 20 episodes of 30 minutes each. George Lucas would have to add quite a few more scenes, more in-depth portrayals of the other Jedi and lots of long battle-scenes.

As I see it, the story-arc can easily take this. There are plenty of untold stories in "Revenge Of The Sith" alone. How does the Alliance begin? A better description of some of the other Jedis last battles, Aayla Secura, Plo Kloon and others. But also what becomes of Asokha and Rex? A few episodes with a younger Anakin and Obi Wan in the decade between Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones, would also be enjoyable. What about an episode with Sifo Diyas' mission to Kamino, and how Darth Sidious had him killed!


What's the point of that?...really.


To give a nice slow and familiar start to a new TV-series in a very competitive TV-environment. After all, there are other TV-channels to turn to, and If the show doesn't connect with people it will be cancelled, right?

Darth_Morder posted:
nett40 posted:
By doing this George Lucas would give SW-fans a fantastic new TV-series with the evil super villain DARTH VADER. This would allow us to view new awsome battles and adventures each week, as the evil Empire struggles against heroic freedom fighters, Hutt crime lords and Jedi survivors.


hmm....


Darth Vader is the most popular villain around, is he not? I know, GL have indicated that the old main characters, won't play any role in the new show. But, I still think it would be unwise not to let him or the Emperor be in it, from time to time.

Darth_Morder posted:
nett40 posted:

A re-release on DVD of the original trilogy in an un-edited version (digitalized and re-polished of course). With the original movie posters from 1977, 1980 and 1983, as covers. The re-release should include both the original movie-version, as well as the director's cut version. "STAR WARS - Episode IV - A New Hope" should simply be called STAR WARS as it was named in 1977. Episode V should simply be The Empire Strikes Back in a yellow Star Wars "box" (like it was originally) and Episode VI should also just be Return Of The Jedi, also in the yellow Star Wars "box" and with no episode designation.


and what's the point of that? do you really want another edition of star wars?!


NO, I want the ORIGINAL versions on DVD, I don't think I'm the only one!


Darth_Morder posted:
nett40 Posted:

George Lucas could then use the episode designation for his live-action TV-series instead, just imagine...

STAR WARS
EPISODE XVIII
"Order 66"
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...what?



The scrolling text at the beginning of a STAR WARS movie, is one of the most significant parts of the show, so it would be madness not to have the scolling text at the beginning of each TV-episode. Would it not? thinking

Darth_Morder posted:
nett40 Posted:
I am sure that this would give him an opportunity to turn the Prequel-trilogy into that what it was intended to be from the start, a great SAGA about Anakin's fall to the Dark Side and the rise of the evil Empire...

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Of course, and the reason he spent millions of dollars and time in making the prequels the way he didn't want them to be was because he was pulling a joke on us, the fans, right?

I'm sorry man, but with all due respect all you're saying is complete nonsense.



To my knowledge the LAS is going to take place in the Dark Times between ROTS and ANH.

My little wish is that GL would use this opportunity to re-edit the PT and add some of the deleted scenes into the plot. Like the meeting between Bail Organa, Mon Mothma, Amidala and other Senators. That scene is more or less the formation of the Alliance to restore the Republic. But also new episodes that gives a better understanding of the new heroes of the LAS, during the end of the Old Republic. So you better understand their actions during the Dark Times... Garm Bel Iblis should be a major character in the LAS (one of my impossible wishes), why did he break with Mon Mothma and Bail Organa???

 

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Gry Sarth  1930 posts
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Date Posted: 7/5 7:10am Subject: George Lucas' new live -action TV-series? - Date Edited: 7/5 7:15am (1 edits total) Edited By: Gry Sarth
nett40 posted:
Isn't the show to be about the period between "Revenge Of The Sith" and "A New Hope"? If so then, my wish might come true!

How do you figure a re-edited prequel trilogy fits in the period that starts after the end of last prequel film? That's a bit of time-juggling that I would love to see explained...

nett40 posted:
To give a nice slow and familiar start to a new TV-series in a very competitive TV-environment.

You really think that after two film trilogies (one of which has at least two different editions), two animated Clone Wars series and countless other stories people still need more to be familiar with Star Wars in order to follow the upcoming LAS? I'm not talking hardcore fans here, hardcore fans will watch it whatever it is. It's the casual viewer who would be immediately turned off if they realized the series on TV is basically a stuffed and dragged version of the films they've already seen. Everybody knows the Empire is bad and the Jedi were wiped out, that's all the info you need to springboard the LAS.

nett40 posted:
Darth Vader is the most popular villain around, is he not? I know, GL have indicated that the old main characters, won't play any role in the new show. But, I still think it would be unwise not to let him or the Emperor be in it, from time to time.

Just so you don't think I have anything personal against you, I do agree with you on that, to a certain extent. Darth Vader IS the best villain ever. During the Dark Times he's at the top of the world and it makes a lot of sense for him to show up on the series. I do hope that when GL said "no Vader", it's more of a cover-up for "very little Vader". I don't want Vader to be the main villain, I don't want him showing up every week. But it would be nice to have him show up from time to time at key points in the story. Plus, many actors can wear the suit and there are excellent James Earl Jones impersonators around, so it's easy to portray him. The Emperor I can see staying completely in the shadows. He was always a background player and we really don't need to see him in action anymore.

nett40 posted:
NO, I want the ORIGINAL versions on DVD, I don't think I'm the only one!

I wouldn't mind it. Though I would prefer a fine-tuned special edition with better lightsabers and the like.

nett40 posted:
The scrolling text at the beginning of a STAR WARS movie, is one of the most significant parts of the show, so it would be madness not to have the scolling text at the beginning of each TV-episode. Would it not?

No it wouldn't. The scrolling text is iconic and all, but it only really works in sparse doses. Anybody who's ever watched a couple of fan-films in a row know how the urge to just fast-forward the bloody thing increases dramatically after the first time it flows by. The problem with numbering the episodes in the classic Star Wars fashion is how would you fit dozens of episodes between III and IV? Episode 3.257 would look a little silly.

nett40 posted:
My little wish is that GL would use this opportunity to re-edit the PT and add some of the deleted scenes into the plot. Like the meeting between Bail Organa, Mon Mothma, Amidala and other Senators. That scene is more or less the formation of the Alliance to restore the Republic. But also new episodes that gives a better understanding of the new heroes of the LAS, during the end of the Old Republic. So you better understand their actions during the Dark Times... Garm Bel Iblis should be a major character in the LAS (one of my impossible wishes), why did he break with Mon Mothma and Bail Organa???

You don't need to re-edit the prequel trilogy to show the formation of the Rebellion. The LAS could very well just pick where Ep3 left off and then show Mon Mothma and her gang start concocting their little insurrection. Having Bel Iblis as a major character might not be very realistic, but I wouldn't call it impossible. I would like to see him in action too. Plus, he's a Corellian, which automatically places him in that gray, shady, underbelly part of the story which we love so much.

 

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