Gry Sarth posted:nett40 posted:Isn't the show to be about the period between "Revenge Of The Sith" and "A New Hope"? If so then, my wish might come true! How do you figure a re-edited prequel trilogy fits in the period that starts after the end of last prequel film? That's a bit of time-juggling that I would love to see explained...
nett40 posted:Isn't the show to be about the period between "Revenge Of The Sith" and "A New Hope"? If so then, my wish might come true!
Gry Sarth posted:nett40 posted:To give a nice slow and familiar start to a new TV-series in a very competitive TV-environment. You really think that after two film trilogies (one of which has at least two different editions), two animated Clone Wars series and countless other stories people still need more to be familiar with Star Wars in order to follow the upcoming LAS? I'm not talking hardcore fans here, hardcore fans will watch it whatever it is. It's the casual viewer who would be immediately turned off if they realized the series on TV is basically a stuffed and dragged version of the films they've already seen. Everybody knows the Empire is bad and the Jedi were wiped out, that's all the info you need to springboard the LAS.
nett40 posted:To give a nice slow and familiar start to a new TV-series in a very competitive TV-environment.
nett40 posted:Again something taken out of a context! The re-edited version of PT would be 12 of the 20 episodes of the 1st version of the LAS, leaves good room to present the heroes and villains of the Dark Times correctly... (8 episodes)
nett40 posted: If you want to dive into the deep grey underbelly of STAR WARS, you'll need to know where the new characters did during the fall of the Old Order... Character building... That's my opinion!
Gry Sarth posted:nett40 posted:The scrolling text at the beginning of a STAR WARS movie, is one of the most significant parts of the show, so it would be madness not to have the scolling text at the beginning of each TV-episode. Would it not? No it wouldn't. The scrolling text is iconic and all, but it only really works in sparse doses. Anybody who's ever watched a couple of fan-films in a row know how the urge to just fast-forward the bloody thing increases dramatically after the first time it flows by. The problem with numbering the episodes in the classic Star Wars fashion is how would you fit dozens of episodes between III and IV? Episode 3.257 would look a little silly.
nett40 posted:The scrolling text at the beginning of a STAR WARS movie, is one of the most significant parts of the show, so it would be madness not to have the scolling text at the beginning of each TV-episode. Would it not?
nett40 posted:I like a optimist, but 3.257 episodes thats quite a succesfull show, lasting a couple of decades. That's nonsense...
Gry Sarth posted:nett40 posted:I like a optimist, but 3.257 episodes thats quite a succesfull show, lasting a couple of decades. That's nonsense... Episode 3.257 doesn't necessarily comes after Episode 3.256. It's just a fraction between two round numbers, and thus it is dependant on how many divisions you have between the one and the other. If the series lasted only 4 episodes and they were evenly spaced in time, then they would be called Episode 3.2, 3.4, 3.6 and 3.8. Which would be very silly, as I said before.
nett40 posted:That's your idea, not mine - I wrote episode XVIII - How would you write episode 3.267 in Roman numerals???
Gry Sarth posted:nett40 posted:That's your idea, not mine - I wrote episode XVIII - How would you write episode 3.267 in Roman numerals??? It was not my idea. It was just the only way I could imagine fitting numbered episodes in order between Ep3 and Ep4, which is what you said you wanted. I didn't know you wanted to commit the sacrilege of removing the numbers from the films themselves. Wow, you would like the numbers removed from the movies?! A LOT of people call the films just by their numbers, the whole campaign for Episode I was VERY number-centered, and you would have that just wiped out?
nett40 posted:Didn't you read my opening idea!!!
Gry Sarth posted:nett40 posted:Didn't you read my opening idea!!! Frankly, I didn't pay it much attention at first. It seemed like a load of nonesense and I didn't think it would lead to so much discussion. It's nice to have is summarized like that, cause usually people don't want to waste their time reading a big post that just doesn't seem worth it. Of your three points, the only one I think might merit any consideration is the third one. However, it's a very vague statement. I, like most Star Wars fans, never really watched the old Flash Gordon serials, only knowing it from little clips here and there and what's been said about them. So when you say that the new show should be like it, it's hard to be sure what you mean by it. It has been argued that TCW is very much in the same serial spirit, but apparently that's not what you mean. I'm sure you don't mean it should have crappy effects... Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow seems like a direct homage to that kind of thing, but it follows the adventures of a fighter pilot...
Gry Sarth posted:Not really. The scroll of Ep4 says that the Alliance has just won its first victory against the Empire. That means we don't get all-out rebellion and large battles until right before Ep4. Everything we've ever known about the Dark Times says it's the time when the Empire ruled supreme, swiftly crushing any glimmer of uprising and wiping away any memory of the Jedi. It's not a time of civil war (like what we could say it's what happens in the old Flash Gordon serial), it's a time of a flourishing dictatorship, it's the squeeze that will eventually lead to open rebellion.
nett40 posted:Yes, they have won their first victory. But, they must have tried to defeat Imperial forces before, and failed! And what about the Seperatist holdouts, they must have been crushed somehow. I would like to see these battles, eventhough the imps win all the time. Why had Alderaan given up its arms, it must have revolted against Empire at some time!
Gry Sarth posted:nett40 posted:Yes, they have won their first victory. But, they must have tried to defeat Imperial forces before, and failed! And what about the Seperatist holdouts, they must have been crushed somehow. I would like to see these battles, eventhough the imps win all the time. Why had Alderaan given up its arms, it must have revolted against Empire at some time! Yes, we can have these small skirmishes, as I said before. We could have the last weak remnants of the Separatists being wiped out at the beginning of the series, and maybe the first rebel attempts against the Empire at the end of the series. But first, they couldn't be the huge battles you'd like to see, because, as I say, we don't have a proper war going on. And second, these things could only bookend the series, they couldn't be what the series is all about. Any Separatist holdouts would be wiped out shortly after Ep3 and any Rebel attacks would only take place right before Ep4, and yet the show is set right between these two points... I agree with you 100% on Alderaan, though. They really could explore this planet's history here, and there's no set timeline for it. The more we got to know Aldreaan's struggle, the more impact its explosion in Ep4 would have.
nett40 posted:Remember it was called the Clone Wars (plural) meaning more than one. The First Clone War, ended with the destruction of the Jedi Order and the formation of the Galactic Empire. The Second Clone War, could be the one against Alderaan, other disgruntled democratic worlds such as Naboo and the Seperatist holdouts of course.
nett40 posted:You have to look on this with open eyes, or else the show will be about nothing at all...
Gry Sarth posted:nett40 posted:Remember it was called the Clone Wars (plural) meaning more than one. The First Clone War, ended with the destruction of the Jedi Order and the formation of the Galactic Empire. The Second Clone War, could be the one against Alderaan, other disgruntled democratic worlds such as Naboo and the Seperatist holdouts of course. Your fan fiction is very interesting, but it just has no bearing on the Star Wars universe as we know it. The Clone Wars was the collection of battles fought between Separatists and Republic, from the Battle of Geonosis to the dimanstling of the Separatist Army following the death of Grievous and the CIS leaders. There's no 1st and 2nd Clone War, not in the Star Wars the rest of us knows...
Gry Sarth posted:nett40 posted:You have to look on this with open eyes, or else the show will be about nothing at all... That's exactly what I'm doing. You keep repeating that you want the show to be about either what the prequels were about (2nd CW) or what the classic trilogy was about (rebellion). How about opening our eyes and accepting that this show could be about... wow... something actually NEW! Wouldn't that be exciting! New villains, new heroes (tempered with old ones, sure, but new nonetheless) and a new overall scenario.