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Drewton  310 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 7:25am Subject: George Lucas' new live -action TV-series? - Date Edited: 7/3 8:54am (2 edits total) Edited By: Drewton
nett40 posted:
Darth_Morder posted:
Aside from the fact that big numbers are equal to an important loss of credibility from the public, the real problem behind it is that he/she intends to use Episode XVIII(8) as Order 66? That is the thing that makes the least sense in all of the whole number thing. Where's episode 7 in that train of thought? Also, the whole point of having "episode #" is to establish a chronological order.


XVIII is number 18, I was making an example. In a re-edited and re-cut version of PT the episode containg "order 66" would be Episode 18!!!


Okay, reality check here...

There is no way this is going to happen. Twenty episodes is twenty weeks or longer, because of holidays during the series. And very few people would actually want to see the prequels, which most consider to be sub-par, on TV for eighteen weeks. It's not a good way to start a series. There wouldn't be enough original footage, and I highly doubt most of the main actors (Ewan McGregor in particular) would want to come back again. That's an extremely bad way to start the series.

The prequels were so bad they need to remake the films (as films) rather than just extend them.

The new series is aboout MINOR characters. Vader and the Emperor are not going to appear. They've already had some episodes written and I doubt they had some random writers be extending the prequels into episodes.

 

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novajoe23  95 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 8:11am Subject: George Lucas' new live -action TV-series?
Yeah, as Drewton said, this has devolved from speculation about what the LAS could be into an argument over whether or not such an idea could even ever occur, to which the answer would be no. What you're talking about isn't feasible, couldn't happen, and won't happen. No one would watch (and no TV network would produce) film footage that is taken directly from the movie and spliced up into television episodes, with some new footage in between. Not to mention that there are already books in place, such as the excellent novelization by Matt Stover, that do some of the things that you're already asking for.

And just because there are bounty hunters in the series doesn't mean it's not Star Wars. In fact, Boba Fett (rumored to be a possible main character) is one of the most popular characters in general. It doesn't have to be taken directly from the movies, or include characters from the movies for that matter, to be "Star Wars." Again, another example, the Knights of the Old Republic video games, and the corresponding time period in the Expanded Universe, are some of the most loved RPGs of all time as well as having a highly popular group of characters such as Revan, Malak, the Exile, and their companions.

 

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nett40  115 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 8:27am Subject: George Lucas' new live -action TV-series? - Date Edited: 7/3 8:45am (1 edits total) Edited By: nett40
Drewton posted:
Okay, reality check here...

There is no way this is going to happen. Twenty episodes is eighteen weeks or longer, because of holidays during the series. And very few people would actually want to see the prequels, which most consider to be sub-par, on TV for eighteen weeks. It's not a good way to start a series. There wouldn't be enough original footage, and I highly doubt most of the main actors (Ewan McGregor in particular) would want to come back again. That's an extremely bad way to start the series.

The prequels were so bad they need to remake the films (as films) rather than just extend them.

The new series is aboout MINOR characters. Vader and the Emperor are not going to appear. They've already had some episodes written and I doubt they had some random writers be extending the prequels into episodes.


Well twenty episodes is if it's going to be a full season, like a season of Battlestar Galactica or the Clone Wars animated 1st Season.

6 or 7 hours of photage from PT would become 12 or 13 episodes of 30 min. each. You then only need 7 or 8 new episodes with other characters than Obi Wan, Anakin, Amidala or Dooku.

You don't need Ewan McGregor, or Liam Neeson, cause the 8 new episodes which had to be made could be about: Mon Mothma, Bail Organa, Garm Bel Iblis, Aayla Secura, Plo Kloon, Kit Fisto, Sifo Diyas, Jan Dodonna, Admiral Ackbar, Ventress or Asokha. These 8 new episodes should introduce the new heroes of the new LAS and what they did during the end of the Old Republic, so that you better understand their character in the 2nd Season.

How does the Alliance begin? It began in the end of the Clone Wars as some Senators became aware of Palpatines intentions. The LAS has to be about the emerging Rebel Alliance, if its just about smugglers, bounty hunters and crime lords it should be called Star Cops or Star Crime! Star WARS need battles in space and on land, it needs adventures and credible heroes and villains that you connect to.

 

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nett40  115 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 8:36am Subject: George Lucas' new live -action TV-series?
Darth_Morder posted:
God, yes 18... my mistake. Someone shoot me down and burn my corpse now.

But anyways, I guess ANH would be episode 19? or perhaps 20 something?


No it wouldn't. Because if you by ANH, mean A New Hope or Star Wars the very first movie, then it is not part of the PREQUEL TRILOGY, it is part of the Original Trilogy. Don't you know that??? It seems like you haven't read my idea correctly!

 

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nett40  115 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 8:52am Subject: George Lucas' new live -action TV-series?
koonfan posted:
nett40 posted:
George Lucas could then use the episode designation for his live-action TV-series instead, just emagine...

STAR WARS
EPISODE XVIII
"Order 66"

Obi Wan Kenobi has killed General Grievous on Utapau and the end of the Clone Wars are near. But the fate of the Galaxy hangs in the balance, as the evil plans of the Sith begin to unfold on Coruscant...

First off the bat, actually listing how long its gone and providing it with its own substantial scrolling text would remind some people of the extremely long Star Trek series. tongue

Sorry, but I'm afraid that's not gonna fly with both the fans and the public, most of them at least. For one thing, getting it that long will make the series seem bloated and give the impression of dragging on. People are used to the numbers of Star Wars meaning something BIG, like a BIG major event. You've had the two trilogies, you've had Knights of the Old Republic 1 and 2, you've had Kyle Katarn's game series, etc.


The scrolling text in the beginning of a STAR WARS adventure, is one of the magic things about the whole franchise... And it doesn't have anything to do with Star Trek... Furthermore, I don't recall a scrolling text in Star Trek???

 

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koonfan  491 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 9:24am Subject: George Lucas' new live -action TV-series?
nett40 posted:
The scrolling text in the beginning of a STAR WARS adventure, is one of the magic things about the whole franchise... And it doesn't have anything to do with Star Trek... Furthermore, I don't recall a scrolling text in Star Trek???

I don't think you fully understood what I meant fully. I was referring to the large, VERY VISIBLE episode numbers which draw attention. STAR TREK has been known to go all the way up to ELEVEN movies, as well as having like three or four different franchises, and it makes me think it's very bloated. If you go putting a number like EIGHTEEN on an episode, or if you make big openings for all of them, I'm afraid people are just going to go from thinking 'oooh, an opening crawl in a TV show!' to 'Oh, krif, this show just won't DIE!'

I'm rather amazed how seriously these things are taken. At any rate, I just felt the need to explain. It would also help if, instead of telling people 'I don't think you read my idea!' you elaborated what you meant to help your case. tongue

 

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nett40  115 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 9:37am Subject: George Lucas' new live -action TV-series?
koonfan posted:
... I don't think you fully understood what I meant fully. I was referring to the large, VERY VISIBLE episode numbers which draw attention. STAR TREK has been known to go all the way up to ELEVEN movies, as well as having like three or four different franchises, and it makes me think it's very bloated. If you go putting a number like EIGHTEEN on an episode, or if you make big openings for all of them, I'm afraid people are just going to go from thinking 'oooh, an opening crawl in a TV show!' to 'Oh, krif, this show just won't DIE!'

I'm rather amazed how seriously these things are taken. At any rate, I just felt the need to explain. It would also help if, instead of telling people 'I don't think you read my idea!' you elaborated what you meant to help your case. tongue


I'm sorry, But I never suggested turning the old Trilogy into TV-episodes, only the New Trilogy. My idea is based on George Lucas' wish to make a Flash Gordon style of show to begin with (before he actually made STAR WARS). The old classic Flash Gordon show had a Scrolling Text as well, to explain what had happened before. The episode designation could be left out, or made very tiny. But the scrolling text is very important to me, at least...

 

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Game3525  1356 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 9:43am Subject: George Lucas' new live -action TV-series?
nett40 posted:
koonfan posted:
... I don't think you fully understood what I meant fully. I was referring to the large, VERY VISIBLE episode numbers which draw attention. STAR TREK has been known to go all the way up to ELEVEN movies, as well as having like three or four different franchises, and it makes me think it's very bloated. If you go putting a number like EIGHTEEN on an episode, or if you make big openings for all of them, I'm afraid people are just going to go from thinking 'oooh, an opening crawl in a TV show!' to 'Oh, krif, this show just won't DIE!'

I'm rather amazed how seriously these things are taken. At any rate, I just felt the need to explain. It would also help if, instead of telling people 'I don't think you read my idea!' you elaborated what you meant to help your case. tongue


I'm sorry, But I never suggested turning the old Trilogy into TV-episodes, only the New Trilogy. My idea is based on George Lucas' wish to make a Flash Gordon style of show to begin with (before he actually made STAR WARS). The old classic Flash Gordon show had a Scrolling Text as well, to explain what had happened before. The episode designation could be left out, or made very tiny. But the scrolling text is very important to me, at least...


He is already doing something like that it is called Star Wars: The Clone Wars.He spent 15-20 years making the movies his way, why would he waste his time on making them into tv episodes, it is pointless.

 

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nett40  115 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 9:58am Subject: George Lucas' new live -action TV-series? - Date Edited: 7/3 10:03am (1 edits total) Edited By: nett40
Game3525 posted:
He is already doing something like that it is called Star Wars: The Clone Wars.He spent 15-20 years making the movies his way, why would he waste his time on making them into tv episodes, it is pointless.


He would "waste his time doing this" because it would make sence to get his Live Action TV Show, the best possible start - Just like the New Trilogy was launched by a re-edited and polished version of the Old Trilogy. So it's not that pointless as it seems. The Classic Flash Gordon was a great short LAS and I believe Lucas would love to make his vision of a Flash Gordon kind of show come through.

Btw. the New Trilogy really isn't that much about the Clone Wars - It's about the fall of the Old Republic and the Jedi Purge.

 

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Game3525  1356 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 10:07am Subject: George Lucas' new live -action TV-series?
nett40 posted:
Game3525 posted:
He is already doing something like that it is called Star Wars: The Clone Wars.He spent 15-20 years making the movies his way, why would he waste his time on making them into tv episodes, it is pointless.


He would "waste his time doing this" because it would make sence to get his Live Action TV Show, the best possible start - Just like the New Trilogy was launched by a re-edited and polished version of the Old Trilogy. So it's not that pointless as it seems. The Classic Flash Gordon was a great short LAS and I believe Lucas would love to make his vision come through.


The live action show will get a fresh start, nothing from the PT has to be changed for it to flow in with LAS, it is a complete waste of money. And again Lucas is making his Flash Gordon type shows with The Clone Wars.

 

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nett40  115 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 10:18am Subject: George Lucas' new live -action TV-series?
Game3525 posted:
nett40 posted:
Game3525 posted:
He is already doing something like that it is called Star Wars: The Clone Wars.He spent 15-20 years making the movies his way, why would he waste his time on making them into tv episodes, it is pointless.


He would "waste his time doing this" because it would make sence to get his Live Action TV Show, the best possible start - Just like the New Trilogy was launched by a re-edited and polished version of the Old Trilogy. So it's not that pointless as it seems. The Classic Flash Gordon was a great short LAS and I believe Lucas would love to make his vision come through.


The live action show will get a fresh start, nothing from the PT has to be changed for it to flow in with LAS, it is a complete waste of money. And again Lucas is making his Flash Gordon type shows with The Clone Wars.


Have you seen the old Flash Gordon show? It's about a few men fighting against an evil Emperor and his many henchmen. Not about wizards fighting robots...

 

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Game3525  1356 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 10:26am Subject: George Lucas' new live -action TV-series?
nett40 posted:
Game3525 posted:
nett40 posted:
[quote=Game3525]He is already doing something like that it is called Star Wars: The Clone Wars.He spent 15-20 years making the movies his way, why would he waste his time on making them into tv episodes, it is pointless.


He would "waste his time doing this" because it would make sence to get his Live Action TV Show, the best possible start - Just like the New Trilogy was launched by a re-edited and polished version of the Old Trilogy. So it's not that pointless as it seems. The Classic Flash Gordon was a great short LAS and I believe Lucas would love to make his vision come through.


The live action show will get a fresh start, nothing from the PT has to be changed for it to flow in with LAS, it is a complete waste of money. And again Lucas is making his Flash Gordon type shows with The Clone Wars.


Have you seen the old Flash Gordon show? It's about a few men fighting against an evil Emperor and his many henchmen. Not about wizards fighting robots...[/quote]

Yeah, it has different plots. But The Clone Wars has a similar format. The same kind of swashbuckling adventures. The Clone Wars is a cross between Band of Brothers adn Flash Gordon show.

 

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Date Posted: 7/3 11:24am Subject: George Lucas' new live -action TV-series?
I really don't want to see re-makes and extended television versions of the Prequels as you suggested. I've had enough of that time period and would much rather see George put his effort into filling the gaps between ROTS and ANH as planned, so your idea is pretty irrelevant as continuity wise it wouldn't work at all and the public wouldn't be too interested.

 

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nett40  115 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 12:20pm Subject: George Lucas' new live -action TV-series?
Dark_Lord_THX_1138 posted:
I really don't want to see re-makes and extended television versions of the Prequels as you suggested. I've had enough of that time period and would much rather see George put his effort into filling the gaps between ROTS and ANH as planned, so your idea is pretty irrelevant as continuity wise it wouldn't work at all and the public wouldn't be too interested.


I've realized a long time ago that you dislike my ideas, but that doesn't mean that your right. If you want to start a Television show based on the Star Wars universe then you need to have a beginning or something familiar gp people. The show has to be directed towards more people than simply the most hardcore fans, such as your self. Otherwise, I surely think that Lucas would drop this whole idea of a LAS and continue his work with CGI.

I know the show has to be about the dark times. But you also need the HOW, WHERE and WHEN. Otherwise it all becomes nonsense...

 

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Game3525  1356 posts
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Date Posted: 7/3 12:50pm Subject: George Lucas' new live -action TV-series?
nett40 posted:
Dark_Lord_THX_1138 posted:
I really don't want to see re-makes and extended television versions of the Prequels as you suggested. I've had enough of that time period and would much rather see George put his effort into filling the gaps between ROTS and ANH as planned, so your idea is pretty irrelevant as continuity wise it wouldn't work at all and the public wouldn't be too interested.


I've realized a long time ago that you dislike my ideas, but that doesn't mean that your right. If you want to start a Television show based on the Star Wars universe then you need to have a beginning or something familiar gp people. The show has to be directed towards more people than simply the most hardcore fans, such as your self. Otherwise, I surely think that Lucas would drop this whole idea of a LAS and continue his work with CGI.

I know the show has to be about the dark times. But you also need the HOW, WHERE and WHEN. Otherwise it all becomes nonsense...


That is pretty redundant seeing how the PT told us how we got to this point.

 

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