Author Topic: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
SuperSaiyaMan12  2595 posts
Registered: Aug '05
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Date Posted: 11/6 5:35pm Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
This episode as 100% awesome from the start of it to the end. We see the largest battle in the Clone Wars series and it sure as hell didn't disappoint. I wonder what the final death toll was for the Clones...probably it topped 20,000 or higher.

 

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SpecialOpsUnit  82 posts
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Date Posted: 11/6 5:36pm Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
I actually approved of the ending, it was a quick job they had to do. Skywalker take a small squad through the shield and disable the shield long enough for the tanks to come in and permanently take the shield down. It wasn't a mission to last a whole episode or even half of the episode, it had to be quick and and swift.

Anyway I think I enjoyed this episode even more the second time through as I got to pay attention to more things in the background. I still laugh at the "Good thing those bugs can't aim" and than a second later the gunship is destroyed.

Another small continuity issue with the "Commander" and "Captain" business. Commander Jet was called a Captain three times during the issue but I noticed that a Captain might also be apart of Ki-Adi-Mundi's galactic marines as I saw another clone with a pauldron.

 

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Game3525  1446 posts
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Date Posted: 11/6 5:42pm Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
Very solid episode, and the battle scenes were amazing.

 

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Ludo_Kressh  6193 posts
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Date Posted: 11/6 5:42pm Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
I finally got to see this and it was worth the wait for me! grin It felt like watching a war movie with the hot LZs and the fight from the clones' POV; the proximity of the fighting and the hits...brought the realism of the war right to you. And the action balanced out the dialogue IMO, the beginning exposition to me was a good set-up for the action.

And gods, tanks, gunships, droid fighters, Geonosians and explosions and blaster fire galore! dancing It truly felt like a 'Clone Wars' episode. That, and I liked the 'circle the wagons' part with the gunships(I guess the producers are still keeping with the Western theme tongue ) And the gunwall reminded me of the Gates of Mordor, although I can't believe only two packs of explosives took down the whole thing(they had to be some pretty powerful explosives!)

Dang, it was kind of hard to see my favorite Jedi knocked out of action, Obi-Wan looked pretty banged up and so did Ki-Adi...I wasn't surprised that Anakin and Ahsoka got through unscathed, I had a feeling that would happen raised_brow . Not to mention, the kill count game they were playing did seem a bit out of place and immature, but it didn't totally distract from the action...I like Ki-Adi at the end and Obi-Wan's comment made me totally LOL.


Overall, it was a great episode, and I'm definitely looking forward to seeing the next parts, I hope they get better and better. And next week, hmm, it seems Ahsoka will have to work with Barriss after all, although it looks like she might be wrong and Ahsoka will save the day again.(Gods, I hope I'm wrong about that..it's hard to judge based on a 15 second preview clip.)

 

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SpecialOpsUnit  82 posts
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Date Posted: 11/6 5:47pm Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
I'm just hoping the entire episode doesn't revolve around those two sneaking around in the catacombs. There is still a large battle going on and for the entire episode to be focused on those two wouldn't be good.

 

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melkor834 
Registered: Oct '09
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Date Posted: 11/6 6:06pm Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
The only problem I had with the Kill Count game is that Ashoka beat Anakin... How does she manage to fare better than the mot powerful Jedi Knight of all time!

 

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ObiWanJedi93  1681 posts
Registered: Aug '08
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Date Posted: 11/6 6:41pm Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
melkor834 posted:
The only problem I had with the Kill Count game is that Ashoka beat Anakin... How does she manage to fare better than the mot powerful Jedi Knight of all time!


Well, Anakin really wasn't "playing" during the battle, but still kept count of his score. He didn't think it would be a game with all that was happening on Geonosis. Ahsoka just still took it as a competition and focused more on killing more Geonosians, while Anakin was worried about his troops and Obi-Wan.

At least, that is how I perceive it.

 

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ewoksimon 
Registered: Oct '09
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Date Posted: 11/6 6:43pm Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
In terms of action, this is the very best episode thus far. The battle (especially the opening landing) was almost on par with some of the action scenes in AOTC. I'd always been waiting for Star Wars to take its battles into a grittier realm, and paying homage to films of the past certainly added a wonderful element of realism. The execution of some of the shots was downright jaw dropping. Of course, the animation was intricately detailed, but the camera work and compositions of the shots were wonderfully done. My favorite shot was where the Geonosian fighters swoop in from the left of the frame past the gunships and then the camera dollies back for a POV shot from inside one of the gunships. Just as the trooper vocalizes his thankfulness that the bugs have poor aim, his transport is blasted into oblivion. Great stuff. This is what has always made Star Wars stand out for me cinematically. Oftentimes, there are incredibly complex battles happening (i.e. Coruscant or Endor), yet I never feel confused or completely overwhelmed. Too often in contemporary action movies is the editing too hectic or the shots jumbled (I'm looking at you Michael Bay!) that it's difficult or impossible to know what's going on. Yet the structure of all these battles in the saga as well as this episode seem refreshingly understandable. When reviewing ROTS, The New York Times' A.O. Scott praised the film for its "visual coherence." I can't think of any better phrase. It is clear that under the careful direction of Lucas and Filoni, the team behind this series are following the same idea.

 

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ewoksimon 
Registered: Oct '09
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Date Posted: 11/6 6:48pm Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
One more note:

I've noticed some complaints that the ending felt rushed, especially that final charge by Anakin and Ashoka that was done all in one shot. I would generally agree, but if I remember correctly, that shot was done as an homage to an older WWII film, the name of which I can't remember. In that sense, it still works for me to a degree, and adds some visual variety to the episode, although I wonder what that moment in the episode would have looked like had it been done from the POV of Anakin or someone else?

 

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xx_Anakin_xx  1817 posts
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Date Posted: 11/6 6:49pm Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
Kick awesome ep. Loved the action, loved the ground battles and the crashes were phenom. I didn't realize they were showing this early, so I didn't see it until the regular time slot, but I'm glad I waited as it makes for a kick spin off into Friday night. "65" eheh...Mundi was great.

 

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Brisi_Wine 
Registered: Jan '09
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Date Posted: 11/6 6:54pm Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
FInally saw it tonight as my DVR decided not to record it a few days ago. I of course loved it.

The kill count scheme didn't bother me. Anakin treats kills lightly like a game, because he is sometimes arrogant and at some point will become so comfortable with killing that he kills the younglings and countless other Jedi, etc. Ahsoka learns from Anakin, and as a result, will develop similar issues. The kill count between the two of them felt like the moment in Children of the Force when Ahsoka says she has a "score to settle" and Anakin lets her do it. His training of her has the same flaws he has. Drawing on these darker forces perhaps gives them a battle energy, or a kind of blood lust that Obi Wan and Ki Adi refuse to submit to.

I think perhaps Ki Adi realizes this, and thus, Anakin's respect means very little to him.

In terms of Ki-Adi's luck lines...I saw it as a glimpse of how when certain people are in very heightened and tense situations, they begin to wish for luck when before they never would have. War can possibly change many a person's outlook on luck. Or the writers just screwed up. Who knows.

My personal favorite part was right after the flamethrowers, when Ahsoka and Anakin locate Ki-Adi because of the burning geonosians tumbling down the cliff like flaming tumbleweeds.

 

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Arawn_Fenn  10379 posts
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Date Posted: 11/6 7:12pm Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed) - Date Edited: 11/6 7:21pm (4 edits total) Edited By: Arawn_Fenn
Brisi_Wine posted:
In terms of Ki-Adi's luck lines...I saw it as a glimpse of how when certain people are in very heightened and tense situations, they begin to wish for luck when before they never would have. War can possibly change many a person's outlook on luck. Or the writers just screwed up. Who knows.


It's at least consistent with the films, in the sense that Ben said there was no such thing as luck ( to which the one Ki-Adi line is an obvious reference ) while at the same time there is the concept of "may the Force be with you". A Jedi trained by Qui-Gon would certainly believe in the WOTF, even if he didn't call it luck. So "if we're lucky" can be read as "if the Force is with us". So if there's an inconsistency here it's really in the film saga itself, not between TCW and the films.

 

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Darth_Zandalor  205 posts
Registered: Aug '09
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Date Posted: 11/6 7:15pm Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
Damn, missed it again. Was it on teletoon? Or did they just repeat Senate Spy to spite us up North?

 

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vong333  2034 posts
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Date Posted: 11/6 7:36pm Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
Whoa Whoa Whoa! Let me tell you something, I just saw the episode today, and this stuff just kicks major arse. MAJOR! This was awesome, I'm still getting goose bumps on this. I have never seen 22 minutes of pure adreneline action. Not from any star wars movie thats for sure. I'm going to say that this is what the AOTC clone war scene at the end of the movie should have been, not the mish mash cut up that we got at the end.

This was just pure awesome, and the thing is that we still have three more episodes to go on this 4 parter. You can tell that the bar was raised and this episode and I can only imagine what will come next for this season and beyond. Star Wars animated just became a big canvass that will be very hard to beat by any other animated show out there. Furthermore, I will say it again, this episode was pure aweseom. From the fights to the use of different ships to the ground campiagn and Anakin and Asohka falling great distances and then at the end landing soft as a feather. Yeahhhhhhhhhh.

This is star wars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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Arawn_Fenn  10379 posts
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Date Posted: 11/6 7:45pm Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
vong333 posted:
I'm going to say that this is what the AOTC clone war scene at the end of the movie should have been, not the mish mash cut up that we got at the end.


It seemed like kind of the same thing to me, with the nice addition of the Geonosian bar-b-q.

 

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