Author Topic: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
GARTH_MAUL  8356 posts
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Date Posted: 11/6 8:33pm Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
I think you have to look at who Ki-Adi was speaking to.

 

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johnthejedi24  666 posts
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Date Posted: 11/6 8:49pm Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
I just finished watching this episode and it was kick ass! peace Downright dirty and gritty, which is the way war should always be portrayed. This is definitely not a "childrens" show. Pretty graphic too, which is good. BBQ Geonosians for the win! happy The clones and Jedi finishing off the wounded and on fire Geonosians that were on the ground I was not expecting for a kids show.

 

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Alpha-Red  2622 posts
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Date Posted: 11/6 9:00pm Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
Wow, they depicted flamethrowers being used on organic beings....and by Ki-Adi Mundi's direct orders too. I was expecting the flamethrowers to show up later in the season and in an episode with a much darker mood, but nope. Also, flamethrowers seem to be usually used in a "war is ugly" moment, but apparently they just fried the bugs like some other action scene >_>

And what's with Admiral Yularen somehow having enough bombers to go after secondary missions but not enough to cover the main objective? For that matter, why are gunships flying into the teeth of enemy fire without having the capital ships flatten the gun emplacements first?

 

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Robimus  3702 posts
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Date Posted: 11/6 9:16pm Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
Darth_Zandalor posted:
Damn, missed it again. Was it on teletoon? Or did they just repeat Senate Spy to spite us up North?


It was on and should replay tomorrow.

Awesome episode. Nice to see the War back in Clone Wars. I didn't like Ki-Adi's head design, other than that it was perfect.

 

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Arawn_Fenn  10379 posts
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Date Posted: 11/6 9:31pm Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
Alpha-Red posted:
For that matter, why are gunships flying into the teeth of enemy fire without having the capital ships flatten the gun emplacements first?


Tradition? worried

I still don't get how it was supposed to be impossible to get to the Teth monastery without vertically climbing up the freaking mesa when all the CIS forces had to do was... land.

 

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GARTH_MAUL  8356 posts
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Date Posted: 11/6 9:41pm Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
I always assumed that it would be relatively inaccessible by air because it's a fairly narrow base to land on, and I assumed the CIS had sufficient anti-air support.

 

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Darth_Zandalor  205 posts
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Date Posted: 11/6 9:54pm Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
Robimus posted:
Darth_Zandalor posted:
Damn, missed it again. Was it on teletoon? Or did they just repeat Senate Spy to spite us up North?


It was on and should replay tomorrow.

Awesome episode. Nice to see the War back in Clone Wars. I didn't like Ki-Adi's head design, other than that it was perfect.


Okay, thanks for the info! Does this mean that Teletoon will air new episodes the same time as cartoon network now?

 

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Arawn_Fenn  10379 posts
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Date Posted: 11/6 9:58pm Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
GARTH_MAUL posted:
and I assumed the CIS had sufficient anti-air support.


But when the Republic forces hold the site, why does that not apply to them as well?

 

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Sompeetalay  330 posts
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Date Posted: 11/7 1:52am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
I just can't find this episode anywhere ... sad I hope CN will never again air an episode during the week.

 

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Jumpman  3877 posts
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Date Posted: 11/7 2:29am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
Having finally let my guard down and accepting the Clone Wars series as part of the Star Wars movie canon(after watching all of Season One on Blu Ray and catching up on Season Two), I gotta say that this episode made me sad...but in a good way.

A few Obi-Wan lines and one particular shot hit home for me in this episode. Everything the Jedi do is corrupting them morally in this war. I know what that they think what they're doing is right but the endlessness of this war is an interesting aspect to the whole thing. I know Lucas said, despite whatever ratings it gets, wants to at least produce 100 episodes. Because of the nature of Sidious plan for this entire war, I'm glad Lucas has an idea of a closing point before we get to the beginning of Episode III. But, will the show feel endless to a fault sometime in the middle of Season Three?

In my opinion, Lucas and the team behind the show have to do a few, very poignant episodes that deal directly with specific aspects that are in Episodes I and II that lead directly to Episode III. The show can't continue to have endless battles every week. The show is going to have to do a few character episodes with Obi-Wan and Anakin that make the show feel more in line with the Prequel movie canon for this entire series to feel right.

Still, from a cinematic standpoint, this series is bar none the best cartoon since probably the original Batman The Animated Series. It's just huge on a visual level. Nothing even remotely compares.

I'm surprised it isn't getting more recognition.

 

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Ludo_Kressh  6193 posts
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Date Posted: 11/7 5:24am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
I can't wait until SW.com posts this episode on Monday...there is so much I couldn't take in watching it once...and the vids there are of much better quality than anything on YouTube.

 

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VladTheImpaler  1095 posts
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Date Posted: 11/7 5:27am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
ewoksimon posted:
Great stuff. This is what has always made Star Wars stand out for me cinematically. Oftentimes, there are incredibly complex battles happening (i.e. Coruscant or Endor), yet I never feel confused or completely overwhelmed. Too often in contemporary action movies is the editing too hectic or the shots jumbled (I'm looking at you Michael Bay!) that it's difficult or impossible to know what's going on. Yet the structure of all these battles in the saga as well as this episode seem refreshingly understandable. When reviewing ROTS, The New York Times' A.O. Scott praised the film for its "visual coherence." I can't think of any better phrase. It is clear that under the careful direction of Lucas and Filoni, the team behind this series are following the same idea.


I agree one million percent. This is what makes Star Wars the best action movie series, to me. Especially in the prequels, the battles could be absolutely massive--incredibly complex, moving very very fast. And yet, the sequences all flow together so logically that anybody can figure figure out what is going on. There are no blurry, shakey camera shots or split-second edits that end up confusing you.

The Clone Wars directors are doing a great job in this respect. Just look at the zero-gravity fight from a few episodes ago. That scene is a lot more complex than people probably realize. We've got droids magnetized to the floor, jedi floating in mid-air, clones grappling themselves to the ceiling or the walls, lasers from various weapons going everywhere, etc. That must have been a total headache to animate...and yet it made perfect sense to the audience. We never lose track of where the good guys are or where the bad guys are. We never get disoriented. We're able to follow the whole thing, and it is exciting.

I was able to catch the rerun of Landing at Point Rain last night and the second viewing was just as exhilirating as the first. Terrific episode.

For people who were surprised by the brutalness of the geonosian-killing...it's not too different from AOTC. There were some pretty cruel deaths there, too. And then we have the commentary track where Lucas talks about how "Jay & Silent Bob" shouldn't worry about the Death Star II blowing up because it was being built by bug-creatures. Obviously Lucas doesn't care about their lives, even though they are semi-sentient.

 

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XCell  319 posts
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Date Posted: 11/7 6:11am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
Wow, no one seems to hate this episode. I guess young or old, everyone wants a bigger, more brutal depiction of war with lots of action and little story. Maybe soon the bounty hunter style above will be gone and replaced by scenes from this episode. Who is that blue guy with the hat again?

 

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rumsmuggler  18347 posts
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Date Posted: 11/7 9:11am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)
GARTH_MAUL posted:
Extremely similar design.

We also don't know Barriss' age yet, but she's obviously there to serve as a foil to Ahsoka.

Funny how NONE of the major villains (or any villains) are listed in the main characters: is that a TCW first? So it's all droid destruction, then? skull



Barris was a padawan the same time Anakin was and it seemed that they were around the same age bracket. I figured that she would be nearing knighthood at this point.

 

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Gallandro  475 posts
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Date Posted: 11/7 9:40am Subject: The Clone Wars: Episode 205: Landing At Point Rain Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed) - Date Edited: 11/7 9:47am (1 edits total) Edited By: Gallandro
ewoksimon posted:
One more note:

I've noticed some complaints that the ending felt rushed, especially that final charge by Anakin and Ashoka that was done all in one shot. I would generally agree, but if I remember correctly, that shot was done as an homage to an older WWII film, the name of which I can't remember.


It was "The Longest Day." It's the French charge at Ouistreham.

Great stuff

 

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